World news vs US politics
World news vs US politics
Please. All of this is mostly US politics. Please do not hijack "world news" to mean whatever new shit Desantis or someone else said this week. Every other magazine/community/whatever is already full of that shit. Please.
Please. Please. Please.
US politics already swamp out most of the content on the entire fediverse. It may seem like the world to you but there's almost 200 countries on this planet that are not the US.
PLEASE DO NOT.
Thank you.
So, submit more non US news?
Yeah I don’t think this is something planned you can turn a dial on. People are just posting their news and the origin of people here probably skews heavily US.
Hey, not for nothing but the US is sick and teetering on the precipice of Facism. If the US goes over the edge, then Fascism will be its main export as "Freedom" is today. That has worldwide implications.
Right now our domestic politics are everyone's problem.
That is NOT to say there aren't other problems worthy of airtime here. Its been hot recently, have you noticed? Nobody seems to be serious about doing anything substantive about that. Let's talk about it.
There is a devastating war on in Ukraine threatening not only global stability, but also the world's supply of staple grains, rare earths, helium oil and natural gas. With a cloid of nuclear chaos draped over it. Talk about it.
Israel is running roughshod over the Palestinian state. (Irony, no?) Talk about it.
China is flxing its financial and geoplitical muscle in the AIPAC region. Ths is the next world war setting up. Talk about it.
Africa has several bloody wars going on with both Western and Eastern powers shoveling chaos into that mess. A continent of rich nations being fleeced by the East and West. Just like always. Guess what you can do?
Central and South America are dealing with their own power struggles between Hard Right and Hard Left factions, again with undue outside influences from Eastern and Western powers. And, we cant seem to stop destroying rain forests.
Everyone is dealing with serious challenges both foreign and domestic. Post about it.
If you're twisted about the problems in the US dominating the Hot page, then post, comment and be the change you need to see, because if you're just gonna sit on your ass right now and complain about it, then you get what you get.
And also...? Sorry. I am NOT having a good day.
Edits: typos and some grammar
Do you really think anyone outside the US thinks "freedom" is your main export? Lmao
I think the fact that he used scare quotes himself implies that they don't believe the US actually exports freedom either.
Incredible that everything he wrote could be prefaced with that ridiculous assertion lol. It's like having a large gem topped with a turd.
Meh, Europe has been dealing with fascist and other extremist people in politics for 20 years on a larger scale, and in some circles and areas of the world it's never gone away. It's nothing new, we just know better how to deal with them and they come and go. Instead of thinking it's some new American thing the rest of the world needs to learn about, you should learn how politics elsewhere works.
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Problem is that these Americans talk. A lot.
The grim reaper in Monty Python wasn't just whining. The struggle is real.
If it is a story from the US that would make international news if it were in another country, it should be posted here. I'm from Canada, US politics is world news to me. Their wretched politics seeps across our border, it's material to my day to day life to stay abreast of the broad current events in the US, just like the UK.
"World news" and no news about India and Pakistan's latest shenanigans. lmao.
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Thats's entirely a question of moderation. I do not.know how actively this community is moderated.
People commenting “be the change you want to see” like it’s their first day in the internet.
Mods will either need to step up and ban US news, or folks who care will need to find a new comm that only allows international news.
Reddit had a good system for this (gasp)
News was for US news, Worldnews specifically banned US news. If you wanted US news you went to news, if you wanted to catch up on news elsewhere you went to worldnews.
This system right now only serves Americans and until a split is put in place it will only serve Americans because the only posts people will see will be the ones all the Americans upvote
It was an ok-ish system which could be justified by reddit being a US-based company. It would have been better for the US to have its own US named politics sub. But the fediverse isn't based in one country, so the names can be a bit misleading for anyone browsing without Reddit-specific legacy knowledge.
There does need to be some way of reducing at least the scattershot crossposting in multiple places for the exact same content though. I tried to subscribe to multiple news and politics communities to get more globally sourced media and comments, but instead it's the exact same US-internal news links in triplicate from the same user. It's frequently interesting news, but not necessarily globally impactful enough to take up most of the screen.
Or mods need to ban those who are whining. Look at the side bar: news from around the world, not news impacting the world. Don’t like it? Down vote it, and post more content that you’d like to see.
/l/politics already ran me off for trying to opine in on a more diverse political discourse than just US news.
Mod told me, "...all politics is local, and few care about international politics. You also have a language barrier that also makes global political forums less interactive."
Then banished my opinion.
What kind of cult are they running over there?
I would take it with a grain of salt. From my experience, 9/10 users who complain about a ban embellish it so they look like they were in the right.
Oh I just noticed the little logo for them is the stupid uncle sam hat wearing lemming. well at least the .world one is.
LAME
Tbf, the lemmy.world politics community does have rules stating US-only posts. They could have chosen a better name, but they didn't. World news doesnt have any such rules so it's hard to know if their intent was foreign affairs related news between various countries or just news from around the world. Until they clarify, folks will likely interpret how they wish, and unfortunately it looks like that's gonna lead to a bunch of US centric news (based on observation, though I don't know why). Posting it in politics or uspolitics would reach a better audience, but folks are gonna do what they do.
Hey it's politics so it's probably some dumb ass ex-military fools complaining that the government didn't help them fuck others enough. I don't know I ran away when all my conversations kept vanishing mid post.
Wait do they think local is only for the USA? like somehow outside their borders local politics don't exist because it is all some how "international"? Wait, does that mean they think when the USA does foreign policy that it is not "international"?
Wow, the mental gymnastics needed to be a member of the USA must be tiring.
They're trying to defend their choice of community name (arguably not doing a good job in my opinion). A lot of people have been complaining in other communities and I think they're getting defensive. Personally I think they chose poorly but ultimately it's not my call, so whatever. Only ones who can force them to change would be lemmy.world mods. They're saying there's no such thing as generic politics and that it'd all be local to somewhere so their claim to the name is fine (at least that's my interpretation based on what you said). Again, I disagree with the quality of their choice but I accept that it's their choice.
US is literally becoming a menace to the World.
Always has been
We should create a community named worldnewsnotusa.
I'm guessing the U.S. isn't in the world?
honestly, why not do what reddit did and restrict US news to a specific sublemmy
That can happen, but this is community run. It's not like you can force people to only post where you want them too. Those communities already exist. And as far as I can tell, it's not breaking any rules in this community. Discussions need to be opened with the mods to define clearer rules and maybe enforce the rules themselves or find volunteers to do so. But this post isn't the solution.
I second this, so much. Thank you. Inb4 "and my axe".
For better or for worse, the US is part of the world. I had to unsubscribe from politics@lemmy.world because it was non-stop links about even the most trivial paid bits of outrage bait and campaigning, even though I was hoping to keep it to ensure I see perspectives from the US and articles about some of the important issues they have right now.
But I dont think excluding the US from the world, even just in name, is the best choice either. Partially because it encourages American isolation and exceptionalism, which helps nobody.
Ultimately I think this problem is best addressed by how platforms sort and filter content, but for now a new sub for international news articles that has to mention at least one location outside the US might be useful. Just to at least filter out the internal-only stories about MTG and Boebert clashing or the 15 articles about Mitch McConnell having a medical issue on camera. Maybe It could crosspost the top link each day from the major country and city instances/communities to keep it somewhat globally balanced.
This is ultimately just pointless whining. Also, "the entire fediverse" is taken up by us politics? It's barely a big deal on Lemmy.world as a whole.
Seeing US news just means there are more US posters. You need to increase participation from other people. It's not stopping others from posting.
Want more non-US news? The answer isn't less US news. That doesn't make it magically have other content.
We get it, you have an axe to grind with US Americans thinking they're the center of attention.
It's not about having more similarly pointless content, it's about having less of it. Well unless world news really means all kinds of news from everywhere, i.e. any little village anywhere. Dog got lost? World news. Corruption scandal in a town of 300? World news...
I also struggle with this often as a 'Merican expat living in another country, hopefully permanently. Occasionally I wanna catch up on US shit but most of the time I care more about what's going on in Europe and other places so I couldn't care less about the perpetually stupid shit happening back in the US.
I'm still learning the language where I moved to so English news resources that are about other places can be very valuable to me. My main resource (and advice to others with this issue) is using an RSS reader with good sources you find along the way. Not every site has RSS these days but many do. I fill in the blanks with podcasts and stories in the language of my country. Only downside is no discussion unless you post on Lemmy or other social media, but maybe that can become a thing we do. :)
I see nothing in the rules that suggest that those types of posts don't belong here. You need to be making a plea to the mods, not the posters.
World News is always bound to be dominated by the news of the spoken language. While English is spoken very broadly, the US is the dominant speaker by population. Most "international" news will be written in the native language of the afflicted area. Since people here want English content, you're going up see mostly English speaking areas. Since the US is the largest, it'll be mostly US news.
If you don't like it, start sourcing interesting English content about non-english locations.
So if my quick math is right the news should be about 2/3s USA
331 million in the USA vs 132 million in Canada, UK, and Australia.
I mean it seems more then 2/3s, and I am not including the other 86 English speaking countries....
To do the math correctly, you'd need to start with their respective presence on the fediverse instead of the population by country.
On Reddit, there were/are some subreddits where you could/can talk about world news, and that means news from other countries outside US. But those news didn't have to be specifically written in English. There was a non-forced rule to provide a translation in English to those news inside the comments. So, you could post about "Macron dit qu'il ne démissionnera", and you can see in the comments the reasons why Macron won't resign.
That would be a great solution to the lack of content in English about news from Spain, France, Italy...
English is spoken very broadly, the US is the dominant speaker by population
You did the numbers? You sure?
I bet there are more people who also speak English in India or China alone, but adding in every European country should be a large cherry on top.
While there are a lot of English speakers in India, it is not their native language. News about India will be written for Indians and will tend to use their regional language. Same goes for China and most other countries. Even in the EU where news might be interesting to other EU nations, news is often written in the affected nations language.
It's just smart business to make your content tailored to the target audience.
It's easier to google it than it is to live through an internet fight.
And it's less embarrassing.
I blocked that community and it is great over here on greener pastures. Now I can talk politics on all the other communities I'm subbed to.