'Andor' Season 2 Debuts to Nielsen Viewership High With 721 Million Minutes

Don't forget about me neilson I pirated the whole thing
- BTW, I want an unpopular advice - where to you legally get these shows as seamlessly as torrenting?
  Suppose I'm a Linux or FreeBSD user, and don't like too many steps being required due to being autistic and thus easily irritated.
  Because with Andor specifically would really want to pay for it.
  
  Disney+ I guess. That's pretty seamless and legal.
  
  I want an unpopular advice - where to you legally get these shows as seamlessly as torrenting?
  You can't, that's why I pirate it all.
  
  I have an asustor Nas, then use radarr, sonarr, overseerr, qbt. All of automates getting the shows and movies I want to watch. Then I just use plex(lifetime pass) to watch it anywhere.
  If you are easily irritated you can just set this up once in containers and basically forget about it. All of these apps also set up the same so once you learn to set up one the others will be easy.
  Worst comes to worst when I was first starting out I paid a guy on fiver like $12 to log in and set up an app for me because I got stuck.
  
  Pretty sure they targeted onionplay for putting the new episodes on there ): they went down, came back up with a new url extension and now Andor is gone

Best star wars content, movie or show, since Lucas sold out to the mouse. Well deserved.
- I agree, but sometimes one can encounter trekkies and other dubious types pretending it's better than prequels or even OT, that is too much.
  
  Andor is way better than the prequels, honestly people who venerable those movies are giving them more credit than they deserve. Makes me feel like they got too lost in the sauce since /r/prequelmemes blew up.
  
  It's better than the prequels, IMO.
  
  Smurfs 2 is better than the prequels
  
  trekkies and other dubious types
  Why, I am a dubious type, thank you for noticing. 😘

It's really good.

I’m been tempted to watch it. Imo rogue one is the best Star Wars movie (including OT), is this show for me then? As in, is the atmosphere the same?
- Andor is, without hesitation, the best piece of Star Wars media ever made.
  Yes, even including the original trilogy. I said what I said.
  
  I'd say it is the best mature star wars piece of media ever made. Because I (today still, but especially my younger self) do love me some good lightsaber fights or large scale space battles, which we didn't get here. Andor not including those is for the better, but I wouldn't want to completely go without them either.
  
  I have to agree, really brings the whole universe alive for me.
  
  It's obviously inspired by quite a few EU books and comics. Which are not worse.
  (One thing I like about it, it manages to pretend Disney sequels just didn't happen, and makes looking directly at Disney SW things optional. And makes a lot of EU references.)
  Maybe if you mean on screen, then yes. I still think it's not better than 1977 and 1980.
- Rogue One is basically Andor Season 2.5
- Absolutely. This along with Rogue One are the best Star Wars content that have ever been made. Some episodes might feel dragging, but trust that it's all worth it once you finish it.
  
  Hard agree. The original trilogy has some truly great moments, but nothing on the level of Luthen's "sacrifice" monologue, or "one way out."
  I consider Rogue One to be a very good, but very flawed movie (IMO the last act does a lot of work to make up for a weak middle, but the last is so very good that it actually does make up for it), but Andor is basically flawless.
- If you liked Rogue One you’ll love Andor
- Andor is a documentary about radicalization, resistance movements, and fascism set in the Star wars universe. It is VERY true to life and based on real revolutions.
  It did an excellent job showcasing real politics and social dynamics. Tons of characters and they all had depth.
  The first season is very good, the second season is, IMO, some of the best political drama ever produced. It's also highly entertaining.
  
  It was good at all levels - not only did the characters had real human depth as did the story, but it even had details like creating a Gorman language and an actual detailed Gorman fashion, so the Production quality matched the quality of the Script, Direction and Acting.
  It's unsurprising that some (maybe many) think this is the best Star Wars ever, at least adult Star Wars.
  I saw Rogue One again just after the last episode of Season 2 and whilst they're almost seamslessly linked, you can absolutelly notice the change of pace and story telling style from one to the other: you go from a story of people in the Rebellion to an Action rollercoaster with an almost symbolic bit of background story.
  Mind you, both are a pleasure to watch in their own ways, though Rogue One is mainly "chewing gum for the brain" as entertainment goes whilst Andor is a far grander meal.
- Pro tip, watch the first 3 episodes in one sitting. They go together and take a bit to get into.
  
  The whole thing is told in 3 episode arcs.
  
  It took me 3 times of starting the series to push through the first couple of episodes. When it finally clicked though, I was so mad about not giving it a better chance sooner.
- I just introduced my parents to it. My dad especially is really not in to fantasy media, but he's absolutely hooked on it. They're 6 episodes into season 1. It took until about the 3rd, maybe 4th episode to really get into the swing of things, but after that it's easily the best live action Star Wars has ever been.
  Fwiw personally I thought Rogue One was extremely overrated. I didn't particularly care for any of the characters, and I thought some (especially the bizarre "I am one with the Force, the Force is with me" guy) were actively grating. IMO for a lot of the broader public, Rogue One's popular reception rests entirely on the awesome final sequence with Vader, and to a lesser extent on some of the great action leading up to that.
  
  Agreed. Rogue One was basically redeemed with that final act, basically right when it became clear to everyone that no one was getting off that planet alive. But everything leading up to it (aside from the opening) was basically just okay in retrospect, and I found myself rolling my eyes a bit at some of the memberberry cameos like R2 and C3PO just having a random conversation, or bumping into the guy with the weird face from the Tatooine cantina. And uncanny CGI Tarkin, which I remember thinking was fine when I first saw it but now just really sticks out a bit.
  Surprisingly, other than the mere presence of some core characters, Andor didn't rely on nostalgia bait at all and I think that really worked to its benefit.
  
  I think this series can be really good for people that don't know Star Wars, too. Anyone that enjoys spy thrillers and political intrigue should really get on well with it.
- It is the best Star Wars ever made.
- The first 3 episodes are available on youtube, highly recommend giving it a view!

people want mature stories that reflect their lived experience under fascism?

Thank god!
I started it and quickly realized I needed to rewatch season 1. I was afraid that since I haven’t watched it yet that many others would have done the same.

Multiply that by 60 to get second. Will look even bjgger

I guess I'm the only one disappointed by season 2? I feel like they could have cut half of it and told the same story. Nothing even came close to the powerful messaging of the season 1 prison arc. ::: spoiler spoiler K2SO felt shoehorned in, ~~the love plot felt super gross considering Cassian's last act in Rogue One is to make out with some other chick,~~ the whole bit with Saw was inconsequential nonsense (so was the ep where Cassian was captured by those gangs in the forest), they pulled a "bury your gays" trope... plus a lot of the pacing just felt wack. ::: It wasn't the worst or anything, but it was a pretty weak follow up to that great first season.
- Oh, I didn't see the relationship in Rogue One as a love story. By the end, they just hold each other before the inevitable - I see no romance there. I can see how someone might find something there if they wanted to though.
  
  Huh, I misremembered that last scene as a kiss, but I checked and I guess they do just hug. So at least that part isn't so bad. I think the rest of my problems with the season are still legit though
- The only scenes i felt were shoehorned in or removed me from the plot were the ones with the force healer. They weren't needed at all. Worse, they possibly remove some value from Cass' character by implying he's on a divine "messenger" quest instead of acting on his own agency.
  Rest of the series was perfect.
  Also check out the ICCH Reviews. Commentary from war and uprising journalists.
  
  I typically hate the force mumbo jumbo aspect of star wars but I thought the force healer bit was way more nuanced take about the force than other examples in recent films. My interpretation is that he saw his own death, and still chose it anyway. So he still had a lot of agency rather than just being a pawn of fate.
- On the pacing: I dont mind "slow" episodes if it takes time to set mood and ambiance in such a superb way Andor does. Could also have something to do with Genevieve O'Reilly playing Mon Mothma ...
  
  There was such well constructed tension in every slow scene. If you were getting bored you would have to have missed some plot, be traumatized, or not be particularly invested in the series on other grounds.
- Both the forest and the late added character were there to give opportunities to shake things up/lighten the mood. This was a grim, grim season and you've gotta have some of that in an 11-hour runtime.
  I agree on Saw's part; felt like something they had to get through to complete the series' connection to Rogue One. I did love the season other than that, though. "Who Are You" is one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen.
  
  I think the Saw parts fit in decently. It adds another flavor of resistance to the mix.
  We get the rebellion, which is an organized military like effort, we get luthen who as a spy master pulls strings in the shadows, Mon mothma straddling the line between being in a privileged public position and helping the rebellion, on ghorman we get a more amateurish resistance, Cassian is more of an individualist who finds his own path between the different factions, and with Saw we get a guerrilla like extremist faction

Some of it is clunky, but in the adorable way that the star wars universe is. It's a good show, with good story arcs, good acting, good world building, but it can be predictable at times and rest in tropes rather than characters.
It's certainly worth watching and is an adult show, not a Disney show.
- it can be predictable at times
  I mean considering we know it ends with Rouge One and generally sits within a larger established universe, that seems somewhat unavoidable.
  
  Emphasising that nobody should carry a gun, but wait, someone did and something happened because of it is clunky and nothing to do with rogue one.
  One of the good parts about rogue one is that it had an established ending too, but still told a good story, well. Andor is doing the same for the most part.
  
  Pretty much the last 3 episodes were about tying it all together with the beginning of Rogue One.
  I would say that the story of Andor can only be judged independently of external concernes by excluding those last 3 episodes.

I tried watching it, but since after 2 episodes still nothing had happened, I stopped and went to watch a movie.
Which is about the same length as those 2 episodes, but actually had a begin, middle, and end.
It might be good, but I will never know since the slow start is so off putting.
- Had the same experience but pushed through. It's worth the slow burn. Many early season scenes are horrid and worse than the first season early scenes. But the ending is just as good. It makes sense when you know that it is 4 seasons into one because production takes way too long.
- Its incredibly good.
  A chunk of the episodes in the two seasons are practically dead air.
  I'm still flip flopping on whether the slow pacing of some of the episodes was intentional (whether to try to build suspense or to hammer home a Lenin attributed quote about "decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen") or some wonkyness with trying to figure out the proper 'fit' of story and dialogue in an episode.
  
  Apparently that quote was invented by George Galloway. Lenin didn't exactly say that.
- Skip to the last half of the season. And if you decide you want to know how they go to where they are, go back and finish the first half. Honestly, with original trilogy coming out first, then Rogue One, then the Andor seasons, it's probably the traditional way to watch! :)
- I've fallen asleep during every episode. This does not happen with other shows, except for one or two really slow episodes of Severance. I have no idea what the problem is.
  
  Me too. I want to love it. Rogue One is maybe my favorite SW movie (sorry Empire, you're still maybe #1). And that's coming from a guy that saw the original in 1977.
- You gave up 2/3 of the way through the first story arc. With the 3rd episode it clocks in at about 2 hours, there's your movie.
  You stopped the movie a little over halfway through, what did you expect?
  
  (Not OP)
  2/3rds of the way is asking a lot to keep my attention. And I want to love it.
  "Slow as hell for the first few hours.", is not complimentary.
- I've watched the first 3, maybe 4, episodes. Still have no idea what it's about, just couldn't grab my attention. Which is a shame, I'm sure it's great Star Wars content.
  BTW, never express any opinion about this except full-throated, roaring approval.
  
  Keep going, the beginning of the season was mid but the end is golden. Motherfuckering show had me crying at the end
- Your loss