Burn.

The fuck does she think indoctrination means? Oh that's right, they've long given up arguing in good faith. There is no rational point to be made, I always forget that.

Anything she doesn’t already believe.
Indoctrination means 'My children don't respect what my gut knows to be true!!!'
It's a word that has lost most of it's meaning like communism

Says the party that literally wanted to modify the grade school syllabus to teach that the 2020 US election was stolen.

~~wanted to~~
Did
- well, that's depressing, thanks for clearing it up.
- Such incredibly sore losers...

Keep this stuff to politicalmemes community. We non-Americans have enough American news crammed down our throats as it is.

We Americans also have enough.
Tbh it's the first time I see her name (iirc), and thanks to that everything, including the answer she received, was "amusing" to me.
She pretty much sounds like any of the current right-wing populists and anarchocapitalists. This is an american trend, sadly winning force everywhere.. This meme is fully on-topic across the western world :(
- I don’t know if it’s winning force so much as it’s being spread by bots and bad actors, although the result is more or less the same. Flooding the zone with their rhetoric makes it look like it’s well supported, which in turns convinces some people that it might not be nonsense.

Federally funded school from age 3 to 20 doesn't sound like education

Yes it does, you bleached Wookie, it sounds exactly like education.

Sounds like a stealth insult to bleached Wookies, somehow.
She’s already 6B on the floor since she engaged in personalities bashing Crockett on the floor.
Said something about Jasmine Crockett’s ‘fake eyelashes getting in the way’ so she called her bad built bleach blond butch body
I felt there was a 7th b but she drew the line to not escalate.

Her side would rather have state-funded religious schools from age 3-20.

*state-funded-mandatory
- Isnt school already mandatory?
Christmas religions.
- Except Catholics, who are somehow too woke.

Cons are the stupidest fucks this side of alpha fucking centauri.

I may agree with Olbermann here but let's not forget:

Yes I know my enemies

They’re the teachers who taught me to fight me

Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission

Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite

All of which are American dreams

Came on shuffle the other day and inspired me to pickup the guitar for a couple hours and annoy the crap out of my kid

Eating food from birth till the day you die? Doesn't sound like living to me, sounds like an addiction.

Just wait til you hear about water! Everybody who drinks it? Dead. 100% mortality rate, no cure, and once you start, you're hooked!

She's got a BA from University of Georgia.

This isn't an education problem. It's pure propaganda and the allure of selling out on social media.

Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968 with a bachelor's degree in economics.
- Economics is almost entirely pseudo-science and capitalist indoctrination so that makes sense...
We're all going to run headlong into a very difficult inflection point in human development as a species very, very soon. Which is the looming divide between people who have no idea how their own minds work, and those who have even a shred of self-awareness.
And not a "facebook/twitter argument" type of self-awareness, but understanding that your intelligence and your understanding of things are entirely separate factors. We are species of cognitive dissonance. It's baked-in. Everyone, even YOU personally reading this, has some level of contradictory ideas or feelings that you can't pry apart without effort.
Some people think about how they think, and come to conclusion that they need to make effort to balance out their values and understanding of the world. Other people are going "brain go vroom" and conclude any idea they have, no matter how ridiculous, as long as it aligns with how they feel at that moment, MUST be true because they still think brains are fact-finding machines, not story-telling machines. This is why we have anti-vax doctors and climate-change-denying scientists (although rare) which is because they live in reaction and story-telling, not reason. If anything, education can make it much, much harder to break out of story-telling-reaction mode, because you think your own thoughts far less fallible.
So yeah, education is only part of the problem. We are going to have to figure out ways to teach people self-awareness, how to think about their own thoughts, or we're going to have billions of brains rotting in an AI/social-media/emotional-porn cesspit in the next decade and they vote and carry guns.
- It reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post, which describes how for some people reality creates emotions, but for other people emotions create reality
  The first viewpoint, "emotion creates reality," is truth for a great many people. Not a healthy truth, not a truth that promotes good relationships, but a deep, lived truth nonetheless. It's seductive. It means that whatever you're feeling is just and right, that you're never in the wrong unless you feel you're in the wrong. For people whose self-image is so battered and fragile that they can't bear anything but validation, often it feels like the only way they can face the world.
Give someone 1000$ and them it is for the group they manage But the trick is they can choose how much to give and keep the rest. Maga be keeping it all.

Holy fuck do the maga just shotgun acid and become the stupidest zombies?

I mean they would probably be a lot cooler if they were on acid all the time.
- They'd probably chill on the whole "let's make a fascist death cult!" thing too
That's the neat part. It's weaponized feigned incompetence.
After Noem got the definition of Habeus Corpus exactly wrong in a recent hearing, some Lemmings have suggested that the RNC stooges in power are all playing dumb. Now, I can't unsee it. It makes sense: play dirty because your aims are underhanded and illegal, and your opposition is both outraged and busy attacking the wrong thing. Every time we all get in a fit about how stupid this sounds, which takes up valuable space and time from doing anything useful.
Edit: it's like a misbehaving kid that knows if he keeps telling the right kind of lie he can get away with just about anything.
Edit2: In Greene's case, her "argument" is also signaling being a "useful idiot" to her base for getting the job done.
Not how drugs work

Meaning, she at least recognizes that more education = less radical views? Which is… counter her point of indoctrination.

What's especially fucking dumb is the argument of 'hurr money out of your pocket'. That shit goes right out the god damned window the second you look at where our taxes go i.e. the budget. Of what we overall pay education is laughably low.

Por when you think about it for more than one second. You went to school. If it wasn't paid out of taxes it would have had (not a native English speaker, imnot sure if have had is right) to be paid LITERALLY out of your own pocket
- Yeah, you have it correct. If taxes don't pay for it, you pay for it directly.
- its so fucking stupid
  anti-tax crazies must think schools and roads are natural phenomenon, and governments made up taxes because fuck you
the military industrial complex gobbling up a sizable chunk of your tax dollars:
- Yyyyyup

The US is just not a real country. It's a horror story to scare the children.

she got engagement and ad-hominem is hardly a burn :/

leaving that musk-fueled cesspool is the better move imo.

It's not an ad hominem if it's directly related to the topic of debate

Stupid freeloading children want us to pay for school when clearly we are low on cash after giving it all to the military!

Solution: give the guns to kids and send them off to war.
- We tried the first half and they all shot each other, mission accomplished?

I went to a religious private school and they tried to indoctrinate me to fascism

This is what they want
- Thats my point, their accusation is an admission. They claim public schools are indoctrination yet their private schools are (I worded it a bit off)

And this is why Twitter should be nuked from orbit…

Pretty sure she went to public schools.

Obviously privately held education will be held to the highest of standards.

And will never indoctrinate. Anyone.

Because the people in power will be held responsible to no one.

Nestle.

Fox.

But no point if the education system doesn't want to teach you but get you more ready for the work force.

People say this all the time like it's some edgy gotcha.
And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same..
..I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded..but poorly. My son is in middle school, I've noticed he doesn't have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don't have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it's hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at "specials", for what its worth. And this disappoints me.
But education as I see, is not "just to get you ready for the workforce" though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.
School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit "you get out what you put in".
- Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it's a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?
- I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
  To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly
  they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.

MTG IS astoundingly stupid. Boebert couldn't manage to complete high school. Noem seems to think Habeas Corpus is the name the orange guy gave his "kick anyone out" croquet mallet. Just 3 among many, of the losers who seem to be in charge right now.

Okay sure, I'm on his side, but that was hardly a burn. Shit wasn't clever at all, coulda sent her to the burn ward but settled for a rug burn

Then you do better.
- YO MOMMA FAT
- TBH there's nothing funny to say here about either of these clowns. They speak for themselves.
- Ok
  "It is spelled religion, not school"
- Make me nerd
Libs have no real defense against the fascism that they support.
Whatever Olberman's views on education, they're probably just as shitty and brainwashed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
- I thought libs were antifa?
  Is libs just another word like woke?

Ad hominem is the refuge of the man facing an indefatigable position.

It's not an ad hominem if it's directly related to the topic of debate

Schools are for indoctrinating children, guys. Train them to fight their biology, conform to a factory setting, and have knowledge presented as something frustrating and difficult obtain. You guys just want them indoctrinated the "correct way" from teachers s stupid and out of date as you are.

Hmmm, let's see.
The history of education, like other history, extends at least as far back as the first written records recovered from ancient civilizations. Historical studies have included virtually every nation.
The earliest known formal school was developed in Egypt's Middle Kingdom under the direction of Kheti, treasurer to Mentuhotep II (2061-2010 BC)
Username checks out.
Seriously, I get it, education systems are often extremely flawed, but education has a long and storied history of being the root of all of humanity's progress.
We need to do better for our children, but that doesn't include fundamentally incorrect extremes like "formal schooling is bad".
- I laugh at your progress
- Shit's a game dawg. We just got a fucking bully problem. Convincing me aint doing shit. Check on your neighbor and carry a fucking brick.