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  • DNC: "Best we can do is approving of Trump's horrid cabinet picks, voting for internet censorship, and abandoning queer people because trans people are icky."

    I'd be way more enthusiastic to vote and donate and advocate if Dems weren't just shooting the democracy they claim to protect in the foot and then handing Republicans the gun to keep it bleeding.

    I want them to actually fight Trump. Or follow on the promises of arresting him from 2021 to now. Or enact policies that don't make people consider fascism because they're desperate and fed propaganda.

    But that would cost money and anger the donators who back Trump and them, so controlled opposition it is!

  • Kinda like the world wants Americans to do. But alas, they aren’t and don’t seem likely to.

    Edit: and everyone just makes excuses and flagellates. Other countries protests over divesting from Israel or retirement age dwarf your reaction to fucking fascism, authoritarianism, and hate. Half a million in one European country show how complicit the country of “freedom” is.

    Go fuck yourselves. Your problems are greater than the excuses you slap back at the world you are fucking over with greed and apathy.

    You are culture of juvenile greed and hate.

    • As someone in the US, I kind of hate comments like this. Not because I don't agree with you; I'd love for us to stand up to Trump, too, but the problem is, I don't know how to (effectively) do that, I don't think many others do, either, and whenever this comes up and I ask the question, 'What exactly do you want us to do?', the answer is always non-specific and weak, like "Protest!", which, I mean... cool? We have been, but it's not accomplishing much of anything. Really, I think the answer is 'We don't know, either', and everyone else is equally as frustrated as we are and, like us, don't have a better way to express it than calling for nonspecific action.

      All that said, in keeping with tradition, I'll ask you: What exactly do you want us to do?

      • Thank you this sums up pretty accurately how I’ve felt lately too.

        Like, we’re effectively a collection of pseudo-countries loosely tied together by a federal delegation spread across a contiguous landmass roughly a third the size of the continent of Asia. Our cross-border infrastructure is a joke, worker protections are nonexistent and to drive several hours/days to the nation’s capitol to protest (which we’re being told does and doesn’t work??) is a level of cost many literally cannot afford.

        In a lot of states we do see grassroots efforts to fight back and improve. That is a better comparison to smaller European countries that have won in fighting against government corruptions, imo. Even Texas recently had a small wave of progressive wins in local races.

        Unfortunately I think a lot of outsiders see “you have guns there!” and as such want us to start an all-out bloodbath. I don’t think it’s wrong for the average citizen to not want to die unnecessarily, and/or only use arms for literal self defense rather than reckless political violence. (inb4 “bUt Ur gubbermint is aLrEadY violent!1! DoN’t WaIt!2!” yeah no duh, see “literal self defense”)

        A good chunk of the 20th and 21st century European revolutions people point to when we ask were largely nonviolent. That’s what we’ve been trying too. Not unarmed, but nonviolent (also corporate property damage doesn’t count as violence).

        Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and of course MLK are solid figurehead examples of American protest that led to some level of success. Protesters during the AIDs crisis too. But it took them years. We’re trying.

      • I plan on getting more involved in politics. Start with sitting in on local meetings, maybe run for an office at some point. Bernie and AOC suggested, sounds like a great idea.

      • I’ve now come to the belief that enough t supporters need to be negatively impacted and start voicing their concerns and start taking action - not voting for far right, maybe doing another insurrection against t this time. Nothing will change in the us as long as the r citizens continue to support this regime.

        I live in a very red area and there are flags everywhere. But I’ve seen several houses take theirs down. There will be hope when having a flag up means something else. Until then there isn’t much we can do besides help our people/local community.

        With that said, the d’s need to have their own project 2028 to actualize, and I don’t think they do because the party needs to be revamped. The geriatric unit needs to retire. The r’s and d’s have more in common than we acknowledge.

      • If only there were some unique way in which Americans were better prepared than most populations to deal with quickly resisting and overthrowing a tyrannical government.

        Oh well.

    • Hey why haven't ypu fixed all the problems in your country yet?

      We're all waiting on you, lazy ass redditor.

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