Which of these javascript expressions is false?
Which of these javascript expressions is false?
Which of these javascript expressions is false?
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I love the two lonely downvotes on this.
Merging the upvotes and downvotes is the best option
nah, it's more fun this way.
It's C
Wtf? Min > Max???
Math.min isn’t the minimum integer; it’s the minimum of a list (and max visa versa)… the min/max of an undefined list is the same… IDK what it is, but this probably the most reasonable of the “WTFs” they could have put there i think… other languages would throw an exception or not compile (which JS definitely SHOULD do instead of this, buuuuut lots of JS has aversions to errors)
*edit: okay the curiosity was killing me: Math.min() is Infinity and Math.max() is -Infinity
yep, because it's two different instances of an object
Completely wrong. I'm hoping this was a joke... :-D
I always thought that NaN is required by IEEE rules to never equal any other number, including itself, because you can make NaN in different ways and this shouldn't result in equality or something, so C is wild but not javascript's fault.
The other three being true is definitely javascript's insane fault, though.
That one wasn't the one I had issues with, since the concept is essentially the same across all languages. We say it's false because we can't conclusively say that it's true. Same as the reason why null != null in SQL.
It also makes a lot of conditional expressions less complicated because comparisons of all kind against NaN return false.
I'm no expert and I know that javascript is full of wtf moments, but please.. Let it be B
It's not gong to be B, it's it.
Narrator: "It wasn't B."
It is true. Math.min() returns positive Infinity when called with no arguments and Math.max() returns Negative Infinity when called with no arguments. Positive Infinity > Negative Infinity.
Math.min() works something like this
python
def min(numbers): r = Infinity for n in numbers: if n < r: r = n return r
I'm guessing there's a reason they wanted min() to be able to be called without any arguments but I'm sure it isn't a good one.
I’m guessing there’s a reason they wanted min() to be able to be called without any arguments but I’m sure it isn’t a good one.
It not a totally unreasonable definition. For example it preserves nice properties like min(a.concat(b)) == min([min(a), min(b)])
.
Obviously the correct thing to do is to return an optional type, like Rust does. But ... yeah I mean considering the other footguns in Javascript (e.g. the insane implicit type coersion) I'd say they didn't do too badly here.
So, the language isn't compiled (or wasn't originally) so they couldn't make min()
be an error that only a developer saw, it has to be something that the runtime on the end-user system dealt with. So, it had to be assigned some value. Under those restrictions, it is the most mathematically sound value. It makes miniumum-exactly-2(x, min(<...>)) be exactly the same as min(x, <...>), even when the "<...>" has no values.
As a developer, I see a lot of value in static analysis, including refusing to generate output for sufficiently erroneous results of static analysis, so I don't like using JS, and the language that I tinker with will definitely have a separate compilation step and reject the equivalent of min()
. But, if I HAD to assign something like that a value, it probably would be a representation of infinity, if we had one (probably will due to IEEE floats).
HTH
js
Math.min() == Infinity Math.max() == -Infinity
Wtf is going on JS...
edit: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Math/min
Its the min value of the input params, or Infinity.
Its the min value of the input params, or Infinity.
And the reason it's Infinity If there is no input, for better or worse, under the hood the method is assigning a variable, min, the highest value possible and then comparing it to each element in the list, reassigning it when it encounters an element lower than its value at the time. So it will obviously always be reassigned if there are any elements at all (if they're less than Infinity, I guess). But if there are no elements, it's never reassigned, and thus returns Infinity. It could have just signed min to the first element instead if Infinity, but that would lead to a runtime error when min was run without a function. If you're not going to throw a runtime error though, it makes sense for min to return Infinity because, what other number could you return that couldn't actually be the minimum
Math.min.length is 2, which weakly signals that it's designed to handle at least two parameters
Why would they even define this value?
Note: I’m not a js dev, do most functions have length?
I also am not familiar with javascript anymore....precisely because of this, exact, insane bullshit.
B... and/or C... evaluating as FALSE are the only things that... should even kind of make sense, according to my brain.
Though at this point in my life, I have unironically had a good number of concussions and contusions, so ... well you'd think that would help with JS development.
Javascript is insanity, and I am still convinced it is at least 40% responsible for Notch losing his goddamned mind.
'null' is somehow an object. because fuck you, thats why!
Is... 0 == '' ... is that two single quotes ' ' ?
Or one double quote " ?
If... it is one double quote... that wouldn't even evaluate, as it would just be an empty string without a defined end...
But if it was two single quotes... that would just be a proper empty string... and because of forced type coercion, both 0 and '' are FALSE when compared with ==, but not when compared with ===, because that ignores forced type coercion...
https://www.w3docs.com/snippets/javascript/when-to-use-double-or-single-quotes-in-javascript.html
Oh my fucking god WHY?!
Just fucking use one special character to delimit strings!
Don't have two that don't work together and also behave differently even when you pick just one of them... GraaaghhH!
brb, figuring out where Larry Ellison lives...
I don't think my sanity can take all of these explanations.
Though I just spotted one that's worse than null being an object ..
typeof NaN "number"
I mean, come on.. it's even in the fucking name!
Edit - fixed capitalisation in 'NaN'
Notch? The guy who codes in java?
It’s pretty easy to avoid all of these, mostly by using ===. Null being an object is annoying and is one of the reasons ‘typeof’ is useless, but there are other ways to accomplish the same thing.
JavaScript has a lot of foot guns, but it’s also used by literally everyone so there is a lot of tooling and practice to help you avoid them.
Fun fact, even tho B is False, Math.min > Math.max
is true
That is not a fun fact. How do I unsubscribe :D
But B is true
The one option that is mandated by an ISO standard.
Besides, if max and min are going to have a value without any parameter, it has to be exactly those Javascript uses. Unless you have a type that define other bounds for your numbers. And null always have a pointer type (that is object in Javascript), for the same reason that NaN always have a number type.
The only one that is bad on that list is D.
typeof null === "object"
was actually a bug in the early implementations, and they decided to keep it in the spec: https://2ality.com/2013/10/typeof-null.html
(see the comment from Brendan Eich)
Maybe D is too single quotes
0 == ''
"This comparison appears to be unintentional"
D...Deez nutz!
C
C++
C, because yes.
I'd say C too because that's the only one that would be True in a normal programming language and this is javascript so...
probably not true in most other langauges. although I'm not well versed in the way numbers are represented in code and what makes a number "NaN", something tells me the technical implications of that would be quite bad in a production environment.
the definitive way to check for NaN in JS would probably be something like
// with `num` being an unknown value // Convert value to a number const res = Number(num); /* * First check if the number is 0, since 0 is a falsy * value in JS, and if it isn't, `NaN` is the only other * falsy number value */ const isNaN = res !== 0 && !res;
It's not true in a normal programming language. If it is true in yours, you should stop using it immediately.
Can't be C, C is the true path.
Probably B?