18h ago

MAGA melts down over ‘WOKE MARXIST POPE’ who is a ‘Never Trumper liberal’

www.independent.co.uk

Laura Loomer lamented that the new pope ‘is anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, pro-open Borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis,’ adding that it’s ‘GROSS’ that he now leads the Catholic Church

It didn’t take long for right-wing media figures and MAGA provocateurs to cry out in rage over the election of Robert Prevost as Pope Leo XIV after it was revealed that he’d publicly criticized JD Vance and expressed sympathy for immigrants and George Floyd.

Despite feeling national pride over the fact that the Chicago-born Prevost has become the first American pope in history, conservative pundits and Trump loyalists fumed over the “WOKE MARXIST POPE” and complained that he is “worse than Francis,” referencing the previous pontiff known for his progressive values.

Even before the “dark horse” American cardinal was elected the 267th pope, former Trump chief strategist Steve Bannon warned about Prevost’s views, claiming that he would be a poor choice for the MAGA movement.

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15h ago

MAGA melts down over ‘WOKE MARXIST POPE’ who is a ‘Never Trumper liberal’

www.independent.co.uk /news/world/americas/us-politics/maga-woke-american-pope-leo-xiv-b2747600.html

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I love how they lost their shit about an American speaking Italian, in Italy, to a shit load of Italians.
The American nationalism has truly rotted their brains.

Woke Marxist Pope? Well shit, I just might start going to church again

Are we talking about the one that died or his new replacement?
Edit: its about the new Pope (Pope Leo) not the old pope (pope Francis). Apparently the dead progressive pope was replaced with another progressive pope. Cool
- Well, Francis had as many good takes as bad takes. Some people described him as "strategically trying to piss off as many people as possible."
  
  Example?
- Old pope appointed the bishops who appointed new pope so liberal was pretty much guaranteed. The American thing was a surprise.
  
  The last one was American too tho

I just want to add. Anyone that ACTUALLY FOLLOWS the teachings of the bible, cannot with good conscious support Donald Trump.
- I would be surprised if there are more than a couple hundred people in the US who have ever actually read the bible.
  
  That's just silly. Many millions likely have. But I get your point.

“In case you're wondering why they picked an American to be a Pope for the first time in history,” MAGA influencer Vince...
Lol, the pope that literally just died was from Argentina, you dumbass
- I don’t understand the point you’re making. The new pope is the first American pope.

MAGA hating the new pope is the biggest compliment he could possibly get
- Yep I'd be crying with joy if I were him

As I told my mother and father yesterday, I firmly believe that under the Trump regime that if for any reason this new Pope comes to America that he'll either be captured and tortured before being killed or just straight up killed for being a traitor.

This article basically just gives a platform to right wing nutjons and their conspiracy theories
Why isn't there a single quote from Pope Leo XIV?

Are they actually saying "Marxist" now? That's new.
- They’ve been saying that for years.

Maybe the church knows better than to have a concordat with the nazis this time.
Maybe.

I'm not catholic anymore but I'm getting real sick of people who converted because they like the vibes the religion had in the fucking 1500s.

GOOD! that means he was the right choice...

is anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, pro-open Borders, and a total Marxist
Wtf I love the pope now!
- They're making him sound way cooler than he actually is
  
  I imagine he’s still against birth control, gay marriage, women priests, etc. He’s pretty conservative.
  That said, he’s for not treating others like total shit, even people you don’t know. Also he spoke in Italian, instead of English, while giving his first speech in Italy to a crowd dominated by Italians. So MAGA hates him.

He should excommunicate them all.
- Pretty sure none of them are Catholic, which makes it even weirder that they care about the Pope at all.
  
  JD Vance converted to Catholicism 5 or 6 years ago, apparently.

MAGA needs to learn new words. Radical leftist marxist communists (which are all contradictory things) is pretty fucking stupid.
- MAGA? Learn?

MAGA ISN'T A MOVEMENT IT'S A REGIME.
- Totallyyy not a cult.
  /s

Whaaaaat? This isn't what Jesus would have wanted!
Greed 4:19 "You get your own fish and loaves. I paid for this. I can throw it on the floor if I want. Suck it up libtards!"
- The bible says libtards?
  
  The New King Trump I edition will.
- That's my favorite Bible story.

You're only an American If __________________
- Funny thing is he's the first American pope.
  You'd think that counts for something and they would be yelling "USA! USA! USA!". But nah, a pope espousing some actual Christian values is terrible according to them.
- You live on one of the two continents called America

Thinking a second about this, he literally pwned MAGA
The entire conservative line of thought is backed by Christianity and American exceptionalism, and now there comes an American pope and tells "You're not following the God's word". That's a damn checkmate.
Wonder how many MAGA supporters, many of which are devout Christians, will start questioning their beliefs.
Also, lol, a Marxist Pope is top comedy.
- Christianity the religion and Christianity the political platform are different things. The con requires you to believe they are the same thing.
- Christianity is the big umbrella of faith, Catholics are inside that umbrella and have been not so popular compared to other factions. Pope's are catholic.
  Personally I think it's all horse shit but that's just me.
  
  I didn't realize Catholics comprise less than Protestants. Still, 22% of Americans identifying as Roman Catholics is a big deal.
- They won't question their Christian beliefs for a single second because they didn't have any in the first place. They'll turn their backs and say "The Pope went woke," still call themselves godly Christians, and continue to spread hate. During that whole time they will never question whether or not they're Christian, they'll just hate the Pope too.
  
  Yeah I mean, it's not like Catholicism is the only flavor of Christianity.
  The whole reason the USA even exists today is because a bunch of shitty religious people got ousted from England.
  I know a lot of people still view the Pope as the head of Christianity but there are many Christians who would not see it that way. Many who would dismiss the Pope with a wave of the hand and not a care in the world.
  The evangelical right wing Christian movement in America certainly does not give a fuck about the Pope based on what I've seen.
  
  Yeah, exactly this. It can be confusing because they call themselves Christians, loudly and frequently - but their attitudes and beliefs have sweet fuck all to do with the teachings of Christ.
  It's kinda like the way they use 'Marxist' for anyone left of Mussolini. I'm not sure if it's a deliberate attempt to shift definitions, or if they don't understand what the words actually mean. Wankers.
- Much of the American Christian establishment is the type of Protestant that does not consider Catholics to be Christian.
  I know that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense but that's how Americans "do religion".
  Baptists don't care what the Pope has to say, seventh-day Adventists think he is actually the Antichrist. Most American Catholics don't really care what the Vatican has to say and would resent the implication that they're supposed to give a shit about the Pope's opinion.
  Americans just don't do religion very well.
  
  It amazes me that Catholics will ride along with that bandwagon. Like when they get that Christian Nation they want, when freedom of religion is ditched in favour of state endorsed religion, and all that remains is to decide whether it's going to be a Protestant Nation or a Catholic Nation, do they actually think it's going to go their way?

I didn't care about who the new pope was but he's getting more sympathetic by the minute.

As a liberal leftist or whatever they would call me... Yeah f** the pope and the church. Let's join together unified against a common evil.
- You'd join hands with fascists against a pope put in place to oppose it?

There is no such thing as marxist pope.
- Are you calling Lara Loomer a liar?
  
  Every second of the day
  
  Leo XIII called marxism a "deadly plague". I guess Leo XIV chose his name because he's ok with his predecessor.

I'm an atheist and I have no use for any religion, but if this new Pope pisses off MAGA, I could become a fan.
- You know things are bad if the Catholic church is a last bastion for progressive social change
  
  They're a ratchet. Calling them progressive would be a straight lie but they do go with the times, maybe 100 years behind, picking up all stragglers that can reasonably be picked up.
  In 50 years, mark my words, they will marry gay couples, or at least bless them before the congregation (without sacrament, or maybe they'll invent a new, same-but-different, sacrament). Why? Because the Vatican recently gave priests authorisation to bless gay couples in private: Blessing the relationship, not just the individuals. Click.
  
  A Canticle For Leibowitz is not an instruction manual.
  
  Didn't they kind of trend this way a bit after Vatican II?

I’m ever so closer to crossing Trump suggesting the US goes to war with the Vatican City off my 2025 bingo card…
- Well first he'll suggest it become the next US state
- I wonder how switzerland would react.
- I'm adding that to mine now don't tell anyone

MAGA would melt down no matter who they picked because everything maga is doing right now is the opposite of what Jesus would do, and whoever is the pope is going to criticize maga for being terrible humans.
- Pope 1: MAGA Bad!
  Pope 2: MAGA Bad!
  Highly Religious MAGA: Pope Bad!
  Gotta love it.
- They would probably be alright if they had picked Trump as pope.

Of course Laura Loonie is against anything that is good in the world.

That's probably one of the most positive things written about the new pope.
From what I have read so far, he's the "middle of the road" candidate, your average, run-of-the-mill, Catholic bishop:
A little anti-LGBT, just a bit of a pedophile protector and apologist, default-sexist ... but not hard-line enough to not make any of it his entire personality.
- Yeah he's a conservative. But that's not enough for Republicans anymore, you need to be a full blown fascist or you're not acceptable.

MAGA would crucify Jesus all over again
- Jesus? That woke ass dude who believes in hand outs (feed the poor), pro-DEI (love thy neighbor), anti-capital punishment (preaches forgiveness)?
  
  Don't forget brown.
- Crucify? Oh, no, no, no.
  They would have him arrested and detained by plain-clothes ICE agents, held in a Texas concentration camp where he would be bundled with the "illegals," then shipped off to El Salvador to be starved and worked to death... Twice.
- They would have set attack dogs on him in Palestine, bombed his extended family, then made Tik Tok videos mocking his death.

Imagine being more conservative than the Catholic Church.

When you start calling every leader of the Catholic Church a Marxist, you've seriously lost the plot. The American right is ridiculous.
- They should cut to the chase and call Jesus a Marxist.
  Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. Luke 12:33
  Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Mark 10:21
  “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
  “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
  “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ Matthew 25:34-40
  
  Why would they? They already rewrote him to what they want: white, blond, freedom, and capitalism something or other.
  
  I always see excuses from them like "that should be the role of charity" "that should be people's choice, not forced on them by the government" etc...
- https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
- Yeah, it was Ohio Catholics (and their momey) that put JD Vance in the running for VP in the first place. People are putting a lot of faith that this Cardinal wrote his own tweets. I wouldn't be opposed to an anti-Trump pope but to call him one is counting chickens before they hatch. Let's see what he does when Trump puts some pressure on him.
  
  …wouldn’t be opposed to an anti-Trump pope
  Dude that’s the only kind of Pope I can get behind.
  
  Popes choose their own name. Pope Leo seems to have been a specific selection.
  St. Leo the Great was a Roman Catholic Pope who reigned from 440 to 461. He is remembered for his strong defense of papal authority, his theological writings on Christ's humanity and divinity, and his role in meeting with Attila the Hun and the Vandals to prevent them from destroying Rome.
  
  Trump putting pressure on the pontifex maximus? I'm not a catholic but I'd say that might be somewhat difficult but certainly interesting. You are aware that the pope is head of his own state and doesn't give a fuck about American legislation or sanctions? The US can't even invade Vatican State without triggering article 5 of the NATO manifesto which might cause even more interesting political turbulences. Specifically with the more strictly catholic NATO members first of all, obviously, Italy.
- I mean they are the original globalists and Jesus was literally a communist so…. I don’t know, they might be right. The church just doesn’t like to telegraph it too much.

New Pope Robert Francis Prevost, the Pedophile Protector!
Yeah, great choice....
https://www.snapnetwork.org/cardinal_prevost_never_investigated_abuse_claims_alleged_victims_say
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/whats-going-on-in-cardinal-prevosts
- You'd have thought that would win him some points with MAGA
- He'll fit right into the roster.
  Fuck the motherfucking pope. And if you're more offended by that than by the scumbag popes that cover for kiddy-fuckers, then fuck you too.
  
  NSFW: https://youtu.be/fHRDfut2Vx0

Very good! I see this as confirmation that they elected the right man for the job 😊

According to headlines lately, MAGA melts down fucking constantly. I hypothesize that they're actually just liquid. They aren't 'melting down', this is just their natural state.
- The natural state of the MAGAT, is a smelly shart.
- They are professional victims, even when they have control over all three branches of government.
- According to headlines everyone melts down.
  
  If they don't get slammed.
- and the summer heat didn't even arrive yet! what will they do, will they evaporate a few months later?

I’ve posted this before but they don’t get to say “not my pope” they don’t get a vote. That’s the reality of faith based leaderships.
- I was sooooooo fed up with MAGA Catholics telling me if I wasn’t down with the Opus Dei right wing bullshit during JP2 then I wasn’t really Catholic.
  It has been much nicer since we have had Popes focused on creating a better world rather than capitulating to the demands of Eastern Orthodoxy.

“Progressive values” - do they even read the new testament? Compassion is the overt message of the Jesus they claim to follow.
- They follow supply side Jesus, the prosperity gospel, and gravitate towards passages that they can use as a cudgel on people who are ew gross yucky to them.
  
  Seriously, what parts of the Bible do they quote to support their racism, selfishness, greed? How can they be so detached from what they claim to be their religion that they treat the 7 deadly sins as virtues?
  
  It isn't even supply side Jesus anymore, they are more and more brazen that trump is their god.
  
  Sounds like herecy to me. Oh, wait they're protestants - they actually are heretics. Religion is a funny thing to watch from the ouitside.
- All of the values they enjoy following are - in their eyes - only for white Caucasian people of European descent .... the bad parts where you get to punish, threaten, hit, strike, wound, maim or kill applies to everyone else who isn't white, straight and male
  
  There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
  Christians need to step up their game and actually follow the teachings of Christ.
- They only care about the parts of the bible that they can use to justify their cruelty to others.
- they only look at parts of the old testmanets, and whatever is distilled by thier televangist.
- Most of the new testament is for suckers and losers in these peoples' opinion. They are all about the vindictive, crazy shit in the old testament, and a few rare things from the new testament. like Paul's letters.
- Kinda funny how perfectly they're described by the phrase "wolves in sheep's clothing", knowing its origin and context.
- Of course they didn't. They only use the bible as a prop or to justify their hatred for gay people. None of them ever thought about actually reading the thing.

Someone that does this to herself calling anything else "gross"... 😂 🤣
- Wow I didn't know she looked human at one point.
- is that the same person?!
  
  I think the one on the right is from some The Purge sequel.
  /s
  
  Asked rhetorically or not... Indeed it is... Many such comparison examples abound. 🙄 🤡
  
  I searched around for this and the one on the right was described in a few places as "heavily photoshopped". She may look a bit odd after all the plastic surgery, but as far as I could see she doesn't usually look quite this odd.
  
  Sycophant of Theseus
- The scary thing is that she is only 31 years old, but she now has the face of a 60 year old who's desperately trying to look 45.
  I don't know who her surgeon was, but she should sue.
  
  Beauty comes from the inside.
- Kimberly Guilfoyle also looked attractive before. It's something with those people that think this is an attractive look.
- The consequences of leaving the car window open for a buff and shine.
- Welp, that right-hand photo just introduced me to my new sleep paralysis demon.
  
  Halloween mask time!
- Did she show up at the plastic surgeon's office with a picture of the doll from saw and say "this is what I want"?
- Jeff the killer lookin ass
- The best takes on religion come from Laura Lucifer, everyone knows.

You think thats bad? You should read what their so called messiahs policies were.
- You got a link? Things that upsets these sad acts is like porn to me.
  
  I would use like a king james link if sending a link to religious folks but my prefered bible is the good ole sab. Mathew 5 starts the sermon on the mount which is a good place to start. https://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html
  
  It is surprisingly difficult to find a link to just the four Gospels from the Bible and not articles like "The four Gospels Explained"

May the last king be strangled in the bowels of the last priest

These people would've literally crucified Jesus
- Literally yes. The Pharisees of Jesus' time were the conservative religious hardliners of Israel, having drifted significantly from their original theology because of political expediency, pushing their version of morality under the threat of harm; and Jesus represented a challenge to their power.
  So more than just "would've," they (well, their first century predecessors) did.

i doubt these inbreds even know who marxist is, or read of his writings.
- Basic human empathy = marxist
- "who marxist is"
  Is it safe to assume you meant: The author of Das Kapital, and The Communist Manifest, Karl Marx is?

Stop giving that vile homunculus attention.
- The problem is that such homunculi are Trump whisperers.

Trump, who was almost certainly unaware of the new pope’s criticisms of him and his immigration policies in the past, sent Leo XIV his well wishes after he was made the head of the Catholic Church.
Imagine having to be the staffer to explain to Trump that the “first ever” American pope that he’s hoping will somehow sign on to his sacrilegious Anti-Christ bullshit is actually going to be the ultimate nightmare for him to deal with.
Pope Francis on steroids. Pope Leo XIV has a record of being pro-workers’ rights. He was the exact right pick for pope to stem the rising fascist tide that’s trying to co-opt religion.
- Is he? Every article I've seen about him is about how he dislikes the queer community and "alternative lifestyles". Dude seems like a con
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/nyregion/pope-leo-xiv-lgbtq-gay.html
  It looks like there were some negative comments in 2012 and basically nothing since. I hope Leo XIV continues Francis’s strides toward acceptance.
  Leo XIV has been solidly pro-workers rights, anti-racism, critical of the Trump administration, and, perhaps most importantly, very supportive of immigrant rights. He is solidly progressive on the vast majority of issues.
  We all know that the growing fascist movement will eventually target trans people and gay people for jailing and rendition without due process, but the people they’re actively doing that to right now are immigrants. Having a pope who is a strong ally for immigrant rights is a very good thing.
  If this nightmare continues to play out the way the MAGA Nazis want it to, I don’t think a pope who actually cares about human beings and their basic rights would turn a blind eye to abuses to the LGBT community. Let’s all hope for the sake of everyone that it doesn’t come to that.

it was Catholics who delivered the White House for President Trump,” he concluded.
Oh snap! I can blame the Catholics for all this?
- Catholics, Israelis, and Palestinian immigrants! Gen Z! Undereducated white men. It's a grab bag of blame.
  YOU get a blame, and YOU get a blame... EVERYONE gets a blame!
  
  b-b-b-but! That wacko right-wing twitter influencer said it was the Papists!
  
  Everyone is awful.
  The people who voted for him.
  The people who didn’t vote for him.
  The people who didn’t vote at all.
  Everyone is awful.

Hmm, someone call maga a waaaaahmbulance, it's nappy time.

This Election was RIGGED! GOD chose TRUMP! The VATICAN is WOKE! This does NOT Represent Us!
-People who want the Bible to Be the Rule Of The Land!
- Protestants hate the pope. And Catholics. Most of the religious right are Protestants.

Shitty Republican Christians are upset at a Christian who actually attempts to live by the teachings of Christ.
Go figure.

New church when

You know you suck ass when the much-hated Roman Catholic church dunks on you.
- Dunk hospital, welcome to the Dunk Ward, I'm your Dunk Nurse today, what brings you in today?
  You got dunked on by WHO?!

Not a huge fan of the Catholic Church, but hardly a surprise, amerikkka's not exactly known for being very friendly towards Catholics anyways.
- The Catholic Church may be corrupt and reactionary and have friendships with fascists in its past, but right now it's less extreme and less fascist than MAGA.
  
  Ain't that something
  
  The church has friendship with every nation that will have them. I believe that they are spineless cowards but I get that from their point of view this allows them to be able to help their people inside the country and continue to have influence and continuity after the fascist government fails.
  The church has learned to put its own existence over everything else. An instinct that has clearly paid off, however spineless it may be.

Conservatives also hate that God's a woke liberal, too.

As an atheist I don't really have a horse in that race but I can't help remarking that these "christian" Americans sound a lot like the bad kind of satanists to me. Usually I am finding satanists quite amusing as they tend to piss off the orther zealots, but these guys are just disgusting. The worst about them is that they might actually believe the shit they are talking.

We got a pope, they got a cope.
It's stupid and meaningless, but hooo boy it gave me a whole 0.2 seconds of dopamine saying that.

he’s homophobic and a pedophile enabler so they’ll come to like him soon enough
- He's not homophobic enough for them, and if he didn't rape a child himself he's got nothing on Trump.

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