16 Democrats Just Voted to Confirm Another Trump Appointee

All the politicians are paid by the same billionaires.

Yes correct. Because fundamentally there is no significant difference between Democrats and Republicans. Money and favor buy votes across the aisle the same as it buys anything else regardless of political affiliation.

So who will you vote for the next "election?" Supreme Führer Trump and his league of cartoonish evil, or the spineless cowards who will do nothing to make things better?
- dems are as crooked as the rest. nancy does insider trade since decades and chuck schumer is just evil ignoring what israel does. or remember the black fig leaf obama? nobody has ever ordered more deadly airstrikes in countries you are not at war with. i think this entire "american dream" thing was just metaphoric for a modern form of slaves and kings. just think of it: who were those that left europe for the new world? sleezebags, greedy goldsearchers...just ppl who were bad anyways. and thats what their entire fake culture is built on.

I'm torn on this. Everything feels like more and more capitulation. But at the same time, this administration is absolutely fucking up negotiations with the world and with China. Shooting themselves in both feet over and over again.
I think democrats should be filibustering every goddamn vote and slowing down the wave of fascism that we are drowning in. But I also think they should get the hell out of the way when their enemy is making a mistake.
Blocking an ambassador to China right now probably wouldn't accomplish much other than offer up the dems as a timely scapegoat for all of the consequences of Trump's disastrous trade relations.

Behold, a democrat:

Cool, so now everybody gonna stop jerking off Booker for his useless filibuster? Or is he still getting a pass?

Broken link.
Who and for which position?
- Not my question at all.
  Which position and who? People are up in arms over a potential good choice, but i have no way to know.

We have 2 parties, the dems (center right) and the republicans (fascist)
- I'm forming a new party called the "Guillotines for anyone with more money than me party"
  We'll guillotine anyone with more money than me. That's my whole platform. I don't have a lot but I'm comfortable. If you also don't have a lot but you're comfortable boy do I have the party for you!

Hmmm, it's like they're all rich and know that in the end it'll be fine for them under a fascist regime?
I'm not an American, but I have to give the Trump supporters they are right about one thing: the Democrats do not seem interested in fixing their problems. Trump's just honest about it 🤷
It's utterly baffling.

Alright at this point we should just clean house everyone in executive, Congress and Judiciary needs to go
- Or, hear me out, make sure people like Trump always lose in the future so they can't initiate any appointments ever again.
  
  Then maybe biden should have hired an AG who was interested in pursuing justice, instead of dragging things out so biden could run as second worst to trump again.
  
  People like Trump shouldn't be eligible for fucking office. If you have Felonies pending or served you should never be able to run for office period

Sorry yall. It was Fetterman or Oz and we fucking ended up with both.

Traitors to america

Welp, Duckworth just lost my vote.

seems like they wouldve been able to confirm either way, even they went against, and they were probably bought off just before the votes. there were already well known DINOS in both house, its just them preserving thier gravy train from donors of both parties.

David Perdue not the worst option. Former politician, former CEO of Reebok. At least it's a businessman and not a Xenophobe, any aggression between the US and China I think will be very squarely not his fault.

Imagine being a liberal right now lmfao You’re pissed at EVERYTHING and yelling at your allies while the people you’re telling them to vote for are supporting the very thing making you furious.
Fuckin’ awesome.
- No, it's just disappointing.
- If we all showed up to vote blue then thwre would be no Trump appointments to be mad at.
  
  All that voting Blue did in the past two decades was kicking the can down the road, while blocking aerious efforts to form a political power willing to bring the can back up the road.
  Trump isn't an anomaly. Trump is the symptom of a broken system that was deliberately broken further and further with bipartisan support. And we still see the Democrats staying at breaking things further and helping Trump instead of forming a proper opposition.
  They still rather fight progressives like AOC and Sanders than fighting Trump.
- Rhoeri is gonna rest their case so hard when they get here. Then we will all be sorry!
  
  Rhoeri will say "lmao" and end any and all criticisms with citations!

I keep hearing project 2025 was a decades plan and the Dems had nothing planned to counter it. Now I'm guessing they are part of the plan.
- Now I'm guessing they are part of the plan.
  Dems are bought that's why.

They will end up in camps anyway. At least they will deserve it.

It’s not like the guy they voted for is a rare qualified pick from the Trump camp.
It’s David Purdue, a failed pillow company CEO, as well as ceo for other textile companies. More recently he dabbled in politics as a Republican senator from Georgia, failed gubernatorial candidate, 2020 election denier, climate change denier, and generally an idiotic sycophant.
The textile experience gives him a small amount of plausibility as a choice, but everything else far outweighs that. Just another loser grifter in Trump’s orbit.
- God damn, how many more failed pillow company execs does he have left?
  
  I was wondering same!
  Maybe it’s something to do with hotels...?

“Yea” votes included New Jersey’s Cory Booker, whose record-breaking speech on the Senate floor against Trump’s policies earlier this month seemed to inspire the rest of his party, as well as Illinois Senator Tammy Duckworth, a military veteran who has criticized the administration for firing military veterans from civil service positions." They talk shit to raise funds from the working class, then vote for MAGA so their corporate backers will pay them too.
- The only reason Cory did his speech was to cover for Chuck Schumer declaring his job as a Senator is to serve Israel.
  
  Cory also voiced his undying support for the brutal genocidal police state of Israel during his 25 hour filibuster of nothing. They have learned nothing. The majority of Americans and all of the actual left, oppose the genocide and don't want their money being given to support Israel but the politicians just double down on it.
  
  I was thinking it
- The last three months should have been a stark reminder to everyone that after a certain amount of time in their positions, politicians stop seeing non-politicians as real people and everything just becomes a game.
- mods have been deleting my comments that remind people that Biden and the Democrats gleefully committed genocide and lost the election for their refusal to even suggest they'll stop it.
  When will people wake up and realize the Democrats are not on our side, not the lesser evil? They exist to give us an illusion that someone is fighting on our behalf, they exist to pacify us, they exist to allow capitalism to turn us into wage-slaves.
  They'll take a knee with us, they'll give record breaking speeches, they'll march with us in the peaceful phases, they'll be on the front line even. They'll hold rallies and raise incredible amounts to "flight fascism", and then they'll step in line and vote to keep the wheel turning RIGHT.
  
  Speakin' the truth! You have my upvote
  
  mods have been deleting my comments that remind people that Biden and the Democrats gleefully committed genocide and lost the election for their refusal to even suggest they’ll stop it.
  Why they are so threatened by AOC and Sanders, and the calls for the old guard to GTFO
  I fully expect the DNC to launch a bigger underhanded attack against the both of them than the Republicans do.
  
  Yah the one governor hugging Trump. I mean come on.
  
  And just to be clear, you think The Grifter Party cares about you? Sorry, Green - the Green party.
  Sometimes I get their name and their actions mixed up.
  
  Democrats are not on our side, not the lesser evil?
  So what are you going to do? Not vote?

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!!!
jfc.
- Unironically that would have prevented all of this, yes.
- This is what primaries are for. If you vote up or don't vote, it's a vote for fascism.
  
  primaries
  Ha.
- Trump ran as a Democrat at one point. Just vote for him, the rules are the rules.

Including Cory Booker... 🤷‍♂️ 🙄
Was everything he did recently just as performative as with MAGAts??
Way to put up roadblocks and speedbumps when it really counts Dems... Feckless Fucks. 🖕 🖕
- Yes it was! And please look in folks' comment histories, the tankies were the first ones to call this out.
- Of course it was. It was just a political stunt to pump up his street cred as a warrior, in advance of an eventual announcement for a presidential campaign.
  Then he votes for the MAGA Nazis.
  He's a collaborator.
- No shit it was. He wants to run for president and he knows that stunt will make headlines but this will be buried in comments where the headline is “16 democrats vote for trump nominee” (aka exactly what is happening here)
  Booker is classic neoliberal, no ethics or morals, guided by money and power. 10-15 years ago he was deeply in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry because they are huge in NJ. Then his aspirations went higher and he realized that association was harmful, at that point he had connections that made him no longer reliant on their cash, so he shed them. It’s not growth, it’s a calculated move
  
  I recall that he was also in favor of charter schools, which made him non-viable for me years ago.
  I hoped that maybe he had a real change of heart last month, but I guess that was just a publicity stunt.
  
  I had hoped he was going for redemption. Feckless moron doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of being president
  
  I wonder who he's going to pretend to date for his next run.
- Of course it was performative, it all is.
- Keep that energy, know your enemies, all of them.
  Never forget, next time they do a performance remember!
- This time it'll be different. You'll see.
- so blocking the appointment of the U.S. ambassador to China, in a vote they can't win looking at the numbers, helps the revolution how?
  
  Because its not about winning, its about taking a stand.
  You don't give NAZI TRAITORS a single vote of support for ANYTHING. They are Nazis, they are the most corrupt and treasonous administration in American history, and any support is collaboration, even a single vote.

Can you fight them as hard as they fought you
Nope
Filibuster maybe?
Only when there’s nothing pending
Procedural moves that slow them down
Nah
Could you at least not vote to enable them
Votes to enable them silently with intense eye contact
What the fuck can you do?
Pulls out phone, texts you for $20 for their battle fund
Jesus fucking christ

Cory Booker—New Jersey
Chris Coons—Delaware
Tammy Duckworth—Illinois
John Fetterman—Pennsylvania
Ruben Gallego—Arizona
Maggie Hassan—New Hampshire
Tim Kaine—Virginia
Andy Kim—New Jersey
Angus King—Maine (independent who caucuses with Democrats)
Amy Klobuchar—Minnesota
Gary Peters—Michigan
Jack Reed—Rhode Island
Jacky Rosen—Nevada
Jeanne Shaheen—New Hampshire
Elissa Slotkin—Michigan
Mark Warner—Virginia
shamelessly copied off the article
- We're still counting fetterman as a Democrat? Aight.
  Also wasn't everyone fawning over Booker for the sit in DAYS AGO??
  
  Gallego: We ditched Sinema because of shit like this.
  
  I heard that apparently (rumors) Fetterman might run in 2028 to give the illusion that we still have a democracy
- Primary every one of them.
  
  What if the primary in question is rigged?

Bourgeois party. Capitalism is incompatible with democracy.
- Democracy needs capitalism.
  Capitalism does not need Democracy.
  Edit: some context because this triggered a few people: it's a quote from Robert Reich.
  
  Without democracy, capitalism just becomes fascism.
  
  Could you walk me through why you think democracy necessitates capitalism?
  
  It does if you want people to afford to buy your stuff. Or to have your stuff on the shelves. Happy tariff day. I heard another boat returned to China with no toys dropped off.

The Democrats never actually opposed fascism, they just invoked it because they knew it was unpopular. The problem of the Democrats is that you can't constantly run on things you have no intention of following through on, without having voters stop believing you eventually.
- The Democrats never actually opposed fascism, they just invoked it because they knew it was unpopular.
  Yep, and Lemmy totally fell for it. Then turned around and shunned the people who refused to fall for it.
  Lemmy is getting what they deserve for blindly worshiping the Democratic Party.
  Third-party is the way to be free from this nonsense!

The dnc is a sunk cost.
You want a country where you can live free, you're going to have to take it yourself.
Dont worry though, that will be some other generations problem. Most of us will just have to live through the enshitification of everything. Cherish these last days. You may never see any like them again. You might even wake up one day and think, the status quo was like being stuck at the top of a Farris wheel. Scary, and uncertain but the view was amazing.
- I agree. I have stepped away from party activity. They are on their own. There are other better avenues for organizing right now.

You DONT Understand! They COULDNT do ANYTHING except Vote to Confirm because they NEED Donations!
- Donate harder and maybe they'll consider doing something!

One day people are going to realize this is just theatre. It's a club with predetermined decisions, similar to WWE. None of them give a fuck about you.
- People realized it over a decade ago.
  So what shall we do about it?
  
  Vote blue so much that they have to keep passing progressive reform like the always do when blue wins. They made the rules, all we need to do is make them play by them.

Anybody really know politics in detail and can explain their motive?
Are they afraid of retaliation in some form? What's the rub?
- They are republicans in disguise..

Controlled opposition party strikes again!
- The Republicans are the Sword, and the Democrats are the Shield.

I get it. I too want this entire administration to burn, but at the same time, Perdue was a sitting Senator. A co-worker. Almost normal compared to Bondi or RFK Jr.
And this isn't a cabinet member. It's not like Perdue is going to make any real progress with China on anything.
China isn't budging on shit.
- Democrats reject this guy, a worse candidate is put forward next. Seems like a stupid hill to die on. They're going to appoint somebody.
  Edit: I didn't know he'd be confirmed anyway. If true, then I agree a Democratic rejection out of principle would have been a better statement.
  
  Technically, if the Democrats reject this guy he still gets confirmed. If every Democrat, Independent, and also 3 Republicans reject this guy, he still gets confirmed. As was the case with Pete Hegseth, whom is way worse than Purdue in every way.
  
  No, they're not. What happened to Obama's scotus pick proves you can gum up this process and prevent appointments. And you can do it without losing voters.
  Democrats are choosing to aide the trump admin.
  
  Let me get this clearly: because if they fight back, maga will be even nastier, so Dems did the right thing to save us from a worse outcome?
  Well fuck me, I've been at unfair to them. I owe them an apology.

But if we vote/advocate third parties, or converse in conservative spaces or .ML, .Lemmygrad*, on Lemmy, we're trolls or shills. 🤮
- Guillotine Party. A Democratic version of the Tea Party. Don't promote a third party; replace the current one from the inside out.
  
  Promote electoral reform. Something we can do one state at a time.
- This is the time for third parties. I get why people were saying not to talk about them during the election but now is the time because it’s obvious that the Dems continue to not have a spine.
  
  Absolutely agreed. And I'm not sure the better alternative to Reddit is a "federated" platform where the mods highest priority seems to delete comments that call the Democrats what they are: nice Nazis.
  
  Yet I keep hearing from y'all (world users) "wahhhhh we need to blindly back the Democrats" and "When the dems elect someone significantly more right than Kamala like Shapiro or Fetterman we need to blindly vote for them".
  
  I get why people were saying not to talk about them during the election
  But the Dems lost by such a large majority that even if every single third-party voter had voted for Harris, she would still have lost to Trump. So censoring us then wasn't any better than censoring us now.
  Non-voters cost the election, not third-party voters. People need to fucking stand up and stop sucking the Democrat Party teets. They don't care about you any more than the Republican Party cares for you.
  If everyone who is bitching about the Dem party threw their support behind a third party, then the Dems would finally realize that they need to change their ways.
  Until then, Dems are just gonna keep losing.
  
  It was obvious every election cycle since FDR too. It's past time for us to stop crossing oceans and moving mountains for those who won't jump a puddle or molehill for us. Politicians, I mean. I'll still cast my vote to help the "sane liberals", conservatives, and marxists who would let me starve in the streets or drop dead in the fields while harvesting their food, or in their bathroom I may be cleaning at the time.
- Yep! Lemmy loves to complain about the Democratic party, but as soon as ya mention third-party, you're banned from everywhere for being a troll. Or Lemmy's other fav insults: Nazi and Fascist. They'll even say we're paid to talk about third parties.
  At this point, Lemmy is getting what they deserve. They'll lost next presidential election to if they don't wake the fuck up. :)
  
  Lemmy: The time has come for a new third party! One made up of honest working class people, with infinity time and money between elections to campaign starting now. Oh also you need to go from 0% to 51% in one election cycle or just scrap the whole thing.
- When have people (outside isolated trolls) accused 3rd-party advocates of being shills? If the "Tanky Triad" only supported an end to "first-past-the-post" voting, that would be one thing. But when I visit, I'm inundated with propaganda championing fascists who want to ignore reality and bend the population to their will. That's not liberalism, and it's certainly not Progressive Politics...
  
  When have people (outside isolated trolls) accused 3rd-party advocates of being shills?
  Take a look at some older posts from before the election. It was a fucking witchhunt on third-party advocates. Every single one was accused of being a paid russian shill. Every. Single. One. lol
  
  https://beehaw.org/post/19739290 sorry, I originally thought your comment was itt. ^

This is how Democracy works. We had an election and America chose Trump. Hard to believe but it happened. America comes together to let that person lead until the next election, this is how America is supposed to work. It is sad that so many people don't understand how the system should work.
- America comes together to let that person lead until the next election, this is how America is supposed to work
  After 4 years straight of former-President Trump actively campaigning on a platform built exclusively on vilifying the sitting President, it's time for unity ya'll.
  The Republican party may have transitioned its entire platform into "fuck the democrats" and actively supported an insurrection but now that they're in power again we gotta stand together behind the convicted fascist, because apparently that's how democracy works.
  Democracy is dead in this country. Don't believe me? Strange. How odd that elections are rigged when Republicans lose, but democracy is alive and well when they win.
  
  I never thought the election was rigged. Political rivals talking shit about eachother isn't anything new. I'm not sure exactly what you are crying about but the election is over.
- America chose Trump
  
  Yes America had an election and Trump won that election. I don't think that is in dispute.

Feckless.

It’s rich v. poor, y’all.
- And the Rich have convinced the Poor that Harris, the Tax-the-Rich Candidate, was the corrupt one.
- I mean.. It is until it isn't. I wonder how many rich people were either tossed aside, or killed by Hitler.
  
  This is not the same. Wealth is way more concentrated.

It’s time for the US to form a centrist party, instead of people having to choose between far right, right, and far left.
- Only way to get reforms like that is to vote blue.
- The dems are the centrists. We need an actual left party.
  
  Only with the extreme Overton shift in the US. Democrats may be more progressive than Republicans, but that’s really not saying much. Most actual Democrat policy is right of center, to the frustration of representatives like Sanders and AOC.
- Where is this "far left" you speak of?
  Like where is any party saying to abolish private property, arrest the billionaires, and give the entire means of production to the working class?
  Nancy Pelosi queen democrat literally said we live in a free market after making her 200 million playing stock market games.
  
  Every single democrat, Bernie and AOC included, just gave full-throated support to Biden as he presided over the greatest wealth transfer in history.
- The US only has a far-right party and a further right party. When has the Democrats ever advocated for anything at all left of center, other than Bernie's Medicare for All, which since most nations on earth have some government provided healthcare, is more centrist, than center-left.
  
  And Bernie isn't a Democrat.
- What far left? You mean the “far left” that continues to support the surveillance state in the US or the “far left” that continues to support the total destruction of Gaza? I can keep going, those are only the first two that came to mind.
  
  I don't get this whole Gaza thing. Seems you Americans are distracted by Gaza well your own house is burning down around you. Take care of the house fire first.