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Congressman Shri Thanedar Introduces Articles of Impeachment Against President Donald J. Trump for High Crimes and Misdemeanors | U.S. Congressman Shri Thanedar

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Today, Congressman Shri Thanedar (MI-13) introduced articles of impeachment against Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, citing a sweeping abuse of power, flagrant violations of the Constitution, and acts of tyranny that undermine American democracy and threaten the rule of law.

"Donald Trump has repeatedly demonstrated that he is unfit to serve as President and represents a clear and present danger to our nation’s constitution and our democracy," said Rep. Thanedar. "His unlawful actions have subverted the justice system, violated the separation of powers, and placed personal power and self-interest above public service. We cannot wait for more damage to be done. Congress must act."

The resolution includes seven articles of impeachment outlining a range of constitutional violations.

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Congressman Shri Thanedar Introduces Articles of Impeachment Against President Donald J. Trump for High Crimes and Misdemeanors

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I feel like we've been here before
- We'll be here again and again if he isn't removed.

Congressman Shri Thanedar (MI-13)
MI-13? That's almost MS-13! Bake him away toys!
- What does this mean? Michigan district 13?
  
  Yes

Impeachment on its own I can't bring myself to care about. It needs to come with "and removal" for it to matter.
And even then that means president Vance. It would still matter because Vance is a weaker villain lacking the full undying support of the MAGA death cult but shit would still suck, just suck in a way where there would be more hope.
- This is the first stage of the impeachment process, which leads to the removal you seek. This is an incredibly important step.
  This process should proceed no matter who would take over the position. If an elected official wronged their constituents they must be held accountable regardless of anyone else’s current position.
- Thing is there will never be another Trump. The cult dies with him.
- Peter Theil is the Sociopathic Oligarch that holds Vance's leash, and he is far worse than Skum. Skum is stupid, and ego/attention-driven, while Theil is intelligent and strategic. Theil is one of the primary leaders in the Sociopathic Oligarch Libertarian movement, following the writings of Curtis Yarvin (Google him). One of Yarvan's most important principles is to do away with all democracies, and force nations answer to the Sociopathic Oligarchs, instead of them answering to nations. Vance is on board with this, and quotes Yarvin often.
- get over the semantics

Deleting this because I posted it in the wrong place.

Can someone ELI5 what impeachment even achieves, and why it seemed to do nothing last time? Is it just a badge of dishonour?
- An impeachment conviction results in removal from office. The previous impeachment proceedings did not result in a conviction.
  (Edit for additional information: While an impeachment uses terms like "trial" and "conviction" it is not a judicial proceeding. It is entirely a legislative proceeding which is formatted to resemble a judicial one, but is not bound to judicial procedure and it also can not produce a criminal conviction or sentence.)
  
  Ah, thanks for explaining!
- It really makes no sense. Even if you succeed an impeachment, you can just get re-elected next term - as long as you didn’t use your two terms.
  
  Only if you are not removed, impeachment is only one part of the removal process.
  
  Wrong. You cannot run again after two successful elections.
  
  as long as you didn’t use your two terms.
  And even this is looking increasingly irrelevant. Trump has another 3¾ years to ensure nothing is in his way for a 3rd, 4th, or even more terms. And with Republicans working to ensure a permanent Republican ascendancy, even voting will become a performative act; a thin veneer of legitimacy papering over useless theatrics and a predetermined outcome.

Put him in a bigger peach this time so he can't get out
- In the peach pit, like Buu

Good luck with that while democrats control zero branches of gubment.
- It would be better to have hope that SOME Republicans still care about their own country.
  
  lol

Hmm we're preparing for 8 impeachments this term.
- It'll be a new tradition, every year we impeach the man and every year it produces no real change.
  
  It'll show someone tried, I guess. Unfortunately, the time fascism could have been defeated from within the system is long passed.

I've never done this before but it's actually time to call my congressman.
- The totally free, and ad free, app called "5 Calls" will help you with that. It provides you their phone number, and a script. You can setup reminders to call daily, weekly, or I suppose monthly.
  
  Won't they catch on that you're just reading from a script if enough people are using this app, and thus calling in and saying the same thing over and over again?
- I mean no, the time was probably years ago and then again months ago, but yes better late than never, please do.
  
  Something something “the best time to plant a tree…” Yeah, it was needed then, but it’s needed now too.
- Why would an old man never have called their congress rep? Shame.
  
  Rather than shame someone who is changing, maybe encourage it. It's easier to get people on board the train if people are friendly rather than passing negative judgment.

While good, we all know that the House won't pass this, and if they did the Senate won't confirm it.
I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...
It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...
The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...
218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.
Let's see, take New York for example.
26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.
5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.
People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.
Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.
Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.
District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.
Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.
So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.
And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.
Every fucking vote counts.
And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.
House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.
Democrats would need ~18 seats.
First, that won't happen in 2026.
Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.
Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.
How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...
Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.
Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
North Carolina (Budd-R)
Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
Iowa (Ernst-R)
Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
Kansas (Marshall-R)
South Carolina (Graham-R)
Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
Texas (Cornyn-R)
Mississippi (Wicker-R)
Alabama (Tuberville-R)
West Virginia (Capito-R)
Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
Wyoming (Lummis-R)
Idaho (Risch-R)
Arkansas (Cotton-R)
Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
South Dakota (Rounds-R)
Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
Highly Competitive Targets:
Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
Stretch Targets:
Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
North Carolina (Tillis-R)
Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
Texas (Cruz-R)
Kentucky (Paul-R)
And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).
It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.
The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...
We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.
No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.
Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.
- We need mass protests to make sure they confirm this. Including outside the homes of those who refuse to.
- The amount that’s being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities…
  This is why articles of impeachment need to be introduced anyway. They need to do it every fucking day if they have to, every time it's voted down. it's not like the House or the Senate is voting on something better. They're voting on something worse.
  It needs to keep being said that there is no sanity and there are no excuses and that something has gone fundamentally wrong.
- Yes. People need to get out and fucking vote. Anything less than 80% participation in a presidential election is shameful.
  But you need to do some background I think. California 22 might be "only" 3k, but it was 53%-47% in 2024. It's also voted Republican since 2002 (1) The real headfuck about CA-22 is how it's 73% Hispanic and reliably red.
  Same shit with CA-3. "Only 24,000 votes" - they won that district by ten bloody points 55%-45%. There were 400,000 votes in the district. Thought it's a little more purple. (2)
  Also, your numbers are off compared to wiki. Not sure where the discrepancy is but CA-22 and CA-3 were lost by 11,000 and 46,000 respectively.
  
  The Hispanic people voting R can be explained by "traditional values" and "religion" - I think.
  It blows my mind but I know Hispanic folks who will vote R.
- I mean, the inevitable march of time winning is a real possibility as far as the cheetoh is concerned.
  
  I call that God's Ultimate Recall Vote. Even Donald Trump is subject to that, eventually.
- I appreciate the effort behind your comment. Unfortunately, it will likely fall on deaf ears among those who most need to understand our government — no different from the MAGA crowd. I don’t mean this condescending. It’s just unfortunate how poorly our education system prepares Americans, across the political spectrum, for their civic responsibilities.
  
  The amount of people who do not even know what a primary election is blows my mind. They apparently think the candidates are just magically pulled out of the air and not decided by the 39 old white dudes that seem to be the only ones except me out voting in every primary. Want ACTUAL change start telling all the democrats to start showing up to the primaries and maybe we will finally not have boomer white dudes picking both sides of every election.
  
  We shouldn't just blame the education system. It's not that hard to talk to your kids about this at least a few times in 18 years.
  The mantra that it's impolite to talk about politics has done enormous damage.
  
  Yup, 100% agree.
  I'm still going to go down shouting "I told you so" to everyone who's not angry and involved, or at least loud about it.
- trying if fine though and preferable to not.
- Yes, but this doesn't have to be done with only Democrats. I guarantee there's at least one Republican that will join the cause if and only if they know it will succeed.
  If there's one, and you coordinate them, we have a chance. But they need to be more than half sure it'll work.
  
  It would be great, and I wish I was optimistic enough to believe it would happen.
  Mitt was the last Republican who voted for it though.
  After the last time immediately following Jan 6, I don't hold a lot of hope.
- Very well said.

On one hand, great! On the other, wonder if this is in response to justice democrats targeting him.
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/28/justice-democrats-shri-thanedar-donavan-mckinney

Good. Now everyone needs to call, email, or visit with their reps to get this passed - assuming they can force a vote. It will only take 4 republicans crossing the aisle in the house to impeach him yet again. Then we need to hound our Senators to get a conviction. That will be the hardest part because it'll take about 20 republicans to join all the democrats and independents to convict him.
- And then someone still has to drag him out
  Who's gonna do that? The Justice Department full of Trump cronies?
  
  At that point Vance would president, I think he’d be eager to move in to his new digs.
  
  I don't hear you offering a solution. Am I correct in my belief that your are in favor of just rolling over and letting him do whatever he wants and not to bother resisting in any way?

Hasn’t this happened already? I could swear I’ve seen another article or two a while back saying someone was doing this same thing.

Good. They should keep doing this for everything he does illegally.
Even if it won't amount to anything, we're getting Republicans on the record as saying they support Trump.
Makes it tough for the inevitable "I didn't side with Trump" statements we'll hear when he is finally gone.

FINALLY.

I get the point but this will just result in a “official act” response and a hand wave.
- The immunity regarding official acts pertains to judicial proceedings. An impeachment is a legislative proceeding. While it uses judicial terms like "trial" it is not the same thing and can not directly result in criminal conviction or sentencing.
  
  That’s a fair point actually. Though it would still be meaningless with republican decent.

It's a waste for a D to bring Impeachment charges. Unless Rs do it, it will never pass and will always seem politically motivated.
- Its never a waste to do the right thing.
- Regardless, its nice to see someone actually trying to do something.
  
  Weird how they only did it today when a primary challenger announced they were running.
  They could have done this anytime before today but waited until their seat was at stake.
  
  My house is on fire, but I'm standing on the sidewalk spitting at it. At least I'm "actually trying to do something", right?
  
  Impeachments of Donald Trump are security theater at this point.
- So you think they should just comply in advance?
- Isn't everything to do with a government politically motivated?
- Force it into the record anyway
- What does it waste? Every Republican, moderate, and undecided gets to see who actually wants impeachment. No stepping around it we'll know who could have ended this and voted to keep him. what can a Democrat do that isn't going to look politically motivated? Defeatist arguments are exactly what trump needs to become emperor
  
  Johnson can just table it without a vote. You're not gonna get anyone on record with it.
- Of course it's politically motivated, trump is a shit political leader.
  He's done exactly 2 things I agree with, kill the useless penny, and say he'll pass a "congress can't trade stocks" law.
  
  Kill the nickle and dime while we're at it. (CGP Gray fan)
- There is no other motivation for any politician save for political motivation.
- I think every single D should do it, all of them should have ALREADY condemned his high crimes. They’re cowards
- Gotta start removing more Republicans from power, too. Use that 14th amendment to clear most of them out.
- Even if a republican would do this, the Magats would claim it’s a secret democrat.

How long until MAGAs use "MI-13" as evidence of a link to MS-13? Taking bets.

Hooray!

Thank You, Congressman Thanedar.

Did she run that by Chuck Schumer and the DNC first?

This makes me realize I really want Mississippi to have 13 Congressional districts and I really want the person holding that position to be republican.
- Michigan. Missouri is MO. If you listen to tech n9ne, remember the anthem KCMO.
  Edit: whoosh. Didn't get the joke. You want Mississippi if you want it to spell R (MS-13).
  
  Oh you're so right
  Fixed

We tried this. Twice
- Therefore the legislature should roll over, abdicate their responsibility, and succumb to tyranny!
  
  They already have!!
- If someone has their boot on your neck and you've failed to throw them off twice, would you not try a third time?
  
  It's more like the two previous attempts to remove the boot have involved throwing dandelions at it. Somehow, I don't think a third tossing of dandelions is going to make a difference. This isn't saying to stop trying to get the boot off your neck, but there comes a point where you must acknowledge that your methods aren't going to work and it is, in fact, wasted effort to keep trying without changing anything.
  
  I'd try something else because it failed two times before.

Why? Did he commit high crimes and misdemeanors or something?
- That's like asking if Jack the Ripper hurt anybody

Cute
Anyway
- If you want to just lay there and keep watching our country burn while doing nothing that's your choice. I'll keep doing what little I can to help those who are working on fighting this tyrant.
  
  You haven't gotten it yet, huh?
  Congress is powerless. The Judicial is powerless.
  This will do nothing but knock yourselves out, I've seen this show before. GOP-held Congress is gonna get anywhere with Impeachment, sure.
  I mean it's about all the Democrats in office can do but I'm sure you can find a better use of your time. Plant a tree, there's one. Start a self-defense network for immigrants and queer folk in your area. I can go on...

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