3mo ago

Running on socially progressive platform alone will not win elections.

There is more to life you know? When will liberals learn.

Edit: I changed the title so that people will understand what I am getting at. It is important to realise that economic anxiety trumps other concerns, especially in the growing wealth inequality and the overt shows of oligarchic rule. As Franklin Roosevelt said: People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

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What "identity politics" have the democrats been doing?
- Not advocating for killing trans people is apparently "identity politics"
  
  But they weren't even really defending trans people in the last campaign. I don't know what OP is talking about.
  
  A considerable number of lgbt, Latinos and African-Americans voted for Trump than before. Gen Z also voted for Trump.
  Putting someone in an insecure state makes them vulnerable to emotional manipulation. And that insecure state is economic insecurity, as alluded in my title post. 60% of Americans are living pay check to pay check. Several Latino families are living in under one household. Young people feel they are locked out of jobs and from owning their own homes. If liberals in their high horse don't get this, well, it is not like they have not been warned before.
Democrats largely avoided identity politics in the last election, especially for Harris/Waltz campaign - whereas the MAGA and Republican camp was full of identity politic attacks on 'critical race theory', 'wokeism', 'antifa', 'DEI', 'woke liberals' and 'leftists' (each of which are undefinable terms to Republicans anyway). Results: they lost, and they still get idiotic posts like this one complaining that they identity-politicsed too hard.
If you have specific examples of identity politics where you think Democrats went too far and lost their audience then by all means, share them - but I'm confident this is just the echoed opinion of some talking head.
What is meant by identity politics here? I feel like this term is so nebulous as to be almost meaningless.
- Running on socially progressive platform alone is not enough to win an election....
  
  Like say, minimum wage increases, healthcare Improvement?
  I'm not from the US, but the minimum wage thing was pretty prominent.
  
  That's not the platform they ran on. I don't know what campaign you were watching.
Insinuating it's only Democrats playing identify politics.
"Gotta get this DEI woke-ism out of our state!"
The current Democratic Party might be awful, but that doesn't mean we can't replace them with better leaders.
- We need a third party.
  As long as the DNC is a privately controlled political party leftists will never hold power over neoliberals or conservatives in the party.
  
  I ultimately agree, but this is a good start
"Identity politics" is a right-wing fabrication used to promote the identities of "white" people, bros, cishets, etc.
It's only use and purpose is attacking marginalized groups. Thus the current attempts to reinstate systemic racism/patriarchy to the extreme.
These sorts of dishonest memes are a complete denial of reality. Both "parties" collaborate to promote fascism.
In what world are the democrats running on a socio-politically progressive platform? I mean just look at the book bans, the war against trans people, and how the democrats are doing against all that. It would win election, but honestly, Biden has been more left-wing on financial positions than socio-political ones, just see student debt forgiveness, child tax credit, antitrust measures, etc.
The fact that the US is inherently a two party system is the biggest factor holding them back, in my view.
I'm very glad where I live has an MMP system, meaning a government is usually a coalition, and it's quite possible for a new party to enter politics.
- There has to be a grassroots movement to change the Democratic party from within, since a third party winning is practically a challenge. The two parties had an ideological flip after all. It is not like the Democratic party couldn't switch to suit the electoral demands. But, it seems like Americans forgot how to hold their politicians accountable.
Helping with cost of living, housing, health care and education isn't socially progressive?
What kind of society do you live on?
- Socially progressive today means specifically civil rights and other similar platforms. Think gay marriage and trans healthcare.
Yes! Focus on cost of living – gas, groceries, rent! Help people¹ out!
¹(white, hetero, cis men)
- The woosh of all wooshes?
I’m left of liberal but this is stupid. Found a new user to block.
- Too realistic for you? Now we need to cut to the scene where they are selling legislation to the highest bidder in the back room.
  
  Remind me: what was that thing that the Biden admin spent the a lot of time doing/attempting to do regarding student debt? And was it or was it not the exact thing OP's meme claims the dems aren't doing?
  Or shall we have a look at the healthcare plan that ended up becoming Obamacare after getting nerfed a thousand times by a Republican Congress? Was that not doing something about medical bills as OP's meme claims?
  To ignore all of the stuff dems have been doing and then talk about "realistic" is... Well. It's something.
I am so curious as to how this will go over on lemmy.
- Fine. Most people here aren't fans of the current Democratic Party.
  
  Most people here aren't, but too many have a cult-like dedication to the party that makes them say "the Democrats are bad, but we can't do anything except Believe™" at the eleventh hour. Remember how people here felt about the Uncommitted movement and calls for Biden to withdraw from the nomination? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
- Curious how a dumb statement claiming that the the last Democratic admin's policies were targetted towards only marginalised groups and somehow ignoring the rest of lower income classes and middle class would go.
  It'll go down like it is right now - lots of people pointing out how dumb it is.
Reminds me there was not a lot of talk about the environment in the democrats presidential campain. A shame since a radical transition to a green industry can hit two birds with one stone: create many jobs and improve people's living conditions.

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