Not to mention the stigma, especially from unrelated doctors who see the med in your file.
A red button. Image says: 'Would you press the button?' [results of pressing the button:] there exists a pill that makes your disability a LOT less debilitating BUT it's near-impossible to get because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun and the government doesn't want them to.
Bastards heard someone who needed it to function normally describe it as feeling like they are gaining superpowers and now think it's the drug from Limitless.
...ignoring that going from disabled to average would feel like gaining superpowers.
I mean...I guess there would be a stigma attached, but idk anyone who's a loser enough to really care. Adderall is great for people with debilitating ADHD, and it's also wonderful as a party drug with relatively few negative side effects (if not abused).
People need to be less dumb, lose the stigma, open up the supply & legalize it....as somebody else said an "adult" with $20 can go buy a handle (1.75L) of alcohol/liquid death with no guard rails, so what exactly are we so scared of, here? People getting the drugs they need? People more alert & honed in at their job? People having lots of fun at a party?! Oh my god, we simply can't have that. 🙄
Don't be dumb. Just don't be dumb, yes, it really is that simple. Legalization will inevitably bring about regulation & moderation.
Guess I'm a loser for caring that doctors have refused to treat me unless I go off the ADHD meds then
No, that does not apply to you. You are not the one being critical, imposing a stigma onto others, and refusing care. You are the victim or affected party, not the aggressor causing problems.
It's like saying...people that mug others on the streets & steal their money are real losers. They should make their own money. I'm not pointing to the person they rob & call them losers. ¯°_o)/¯
Doctor's who don't suck at treating anything that requires controlled substances are few and far between. Many are ignorant about the actual laws governing scheduled substances so they just try to minimize prescribing any even if it means worse care for the patient.
That..that never happened did it Homer? (Like for FFS they can see why you have a prescription and it's not like they've never heard of ADD)
People are dumb though. And regulations need to account for that.
Methamphetamines used to be legal, and they were advertised that way: take this pill, get more energy, and stay alert and focused at work. If I had to guess, I'd say they became illegal once people started overdosing. I'm not defending it, but I think it's interesting that you used to be able to buy it over the counter and now you can't anymore. Same thing with cocaine, actually, and I'm sure that's the same problem. People get addicted, use too much, and die.
For me it's, "... But you hate the way the medicine makes you feel so you refuse to take it despite knowing it would make many aspects of your life more manageable."
Common problem with a lot of meds, including antidepressants and antipsychotics. I knew someone who didn't want to take their meds because it made them fat, and that was to counteract delusions and paranoia from schizophrenia. It's been decades, so I think the meds are better but the point is, yeah, lots of people have to pick and even if the side effects are less bad, you're actively having to choose to cause that to yourself.
I am right there with you too. I wish any of the medication options worked for me.
I wish methylphenidate didn't make me feel like my heart is about to explode if I take it for more than 4 days in a row
What's recreational about it?
"Oh boy! I feel amazing! I can get out of bed in the night without falling over my floordrobe!"
Yeah, sure... Super fun.
floordrobe
TIL. This sounds amazing, ty.
For people with ADHD, some ADHD medication has a calming & focusing effect, that same medication has an energizing and euphoric for some (not all) neurotypical people, while also increasing their focus at the same time.
You and I have a huge deficit of Dopamine, so when we take them, it gets us to an average level of it. When an NT takes them, they end up with a surplus of Dopamine, which is really euphoria-inducing.
It's a prescription drug like any other, if u take it while diagnosed it'll js make you normal, but if you take it recreationally it'll act like a drug with all the side-effects.
If you take morphine for example, when in a fuckton of pain, it'll get rid of your pain, but if you take it recreationally it'll work like any other recreational drug does. It's obviously very simplified ik, and I could've worded it better but it gets my point across.
Neurotypical people: Can't wait to party!
flicker: The laundry ain't gonna do itself and I'm not allowed to do it without drugs soooo...
because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun
How terrible!!!! But what specific horrible drug is this? so many fun illegal ones.
It's Adderall.
So, my doctor starts me out on the non-stimulant medications, even though they're known to be less effective, because the stimulants are so tightly controlled. It's ass-backwards. I feel like crap and my symptoms are marginally better.
Adderall is overrated and habit forming. There are non-stimulant medications available. Personally I take Strattera and it's just soooooo much better than Adderall.
Glad it works for you. No reason to shame others because different things work for them.
If you experienced shame after reading my comment, that's on you.
Everyone's bodies handle drugs differently. Strattera pushed my heart rate way up and giving it time didn't stop it. Multiple stimulants didn't do that to me.
Oof, straterra made a friend of mine suicidal after a few years (they're ok now, don't worry). I'm sure you already know, but talk to a doc ASAP if you start feeling like that
Heads up, bud- I’m not sure this has been pointed out to you, but your little anecdotal experiences aren’t a catch-all explanation for those of others.
… "and the government doesn't want them to"?
The last part kinda doesn't make a lot of sense.
If the government doesn't want the non-disabled to enjoy taking that for fun, how does that contribute to the problem? It could have made sense if it said "even though" instead of "and", but the way it is, it's just confusing.
Seems to make sense to me. The "and the government doesn't want them to" part is the explanation for why it is nearly impossible to get.
Drugs are much cheaper to produce then they are sold as.
Just produce enough for everyone that wants them but restrict it to having to pass drug safety education and a consent check if not doctor prescribed. Have thoughtful regulations and awareness about the whole thing.
That some people will misuse something is no excuses to keep it from those that medically require it. And compared to the curent climate. Any drug naive “adult” can buy a liquor bottle of death almost everywhere with next to zero guardrails in place.
My understanding though (US) is the DEA limits the raw ingredient supply with no regard to the demand by patients. The drug manufacturers get what they get whenever the DEA decides they are allowed to have it.
It sucks having the government decide whether I get my medication each month. It sucks having to submit to drug tests to prove I am taking my meds and not hoarding/selling them. I have a giant stack of paperwork from formal testing I had, which I had to pay for out of pocket because insurance doesn't cover it. It was something like 600-800 dollars. That is enough dammit. I shouldn't have to live in fear that my medication will be taken away or refilled late because I can't even request my refill until the last minute.
Generic methylphenidate is less than 20€ a month in France counting pharmacist's commission for handing over the box and the manufacturer's profit. Americans are getting scammed. (Oh and most French people would pay at most 2€ for this since the national insurance scheme covers it)
I looked at it like marijuana. Government doesnt want you to use it so its hard to get even though it can help with chronic pain and nausea and depression.
Exactly, they don't care if you're a person who needs it, they don't want anyone to use it at all.