How is content like this banned on .ml for being "political"?

Complaining about bans for posts on lemmy.ml is like complaining about birdshit on your car when parking under a tree.
- I’m not complaining about bans. I’m trying to have a debate on why tankie-land needs to be part of this?
  
  I don’t think you quite understand how the Fediverse works.
  Lemmy has no control over the instances. It only provides the format and connects the instances with each other. That is the „fed“-part. Federation. A central authority controlling how each instance moderates itself would defeat the point.
  If you don’t like an instance, block it and move on. Nobody except the person who runs the server can do anything to change how they run it.
  
  You can block the instance if you don't like it.
  
  Which community on the .ml instance did you post this on?
  
  Because they made this thing and Fediverse is per se open. If you question whether they belong, I wonder why you are posting on .ml?
  You didn't post which community you posted that into so it's a but hard to evaluate how legitimate the removal is.

Friendly reminder that we can FOIA first and last names of every ICE employee and their salary, and position/title.
Every last one of them.
It's a good and legal public list just waiting to be collected nice and legally, and shared with the taxpayers as per our still existing rights.
- This assumes the department or people involved with fulfilling these requests hasn't already been compromised or shut down. The request means nothing when it never gets looked at.
  
  Ultimately, this would come down to the judiciary. They (ICE) could stonewall all they want. Those documents are on file, and you better believe the judiciary will exercise every ounce of strength they've got in producing them.
  It might get delayed unduly for quite some time, but those names are the public's. Not a damn thing any person who decided to accept the job can do about that to stop the public.

They’re right. I’m not defending the ban, but it is political. This is why MAGA elected Trump.
ICE is following Trump’s orders, which are an unconstitutional violation of the Fifth Amendment. When the Alien Enemies Act was used during WWII, even the Nazis had due process before being deported.
- ICE's actions are political.
  Discussing ICE's actions is not necessarily political, unless you consider human rights violations to be necessarily political as a topic.
  Silencing discussion of human rights violations implies tacit support for the action, so I guess we know now where .ml stands. Any claim of leftist ideology on their part is a sham, they just have a hard-on for authoritarians.
  
  Of course its political, what else would it be? You are talking about peoples rights (a political concept) being breached by an administration (poltical) using an arm of the government (political) as a paramilitary force (political).

Also, the community we're in has a rule against moderation complaints, so I would really crosspost to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- Nothing says "we are a free and open community that welcomes others" like moderators banning discussion of poor moderation.
  Yes, I do understand what the rule is there for. No that doesn't make it any less hilariously shitty.
  
  I prefer !fediverse@lemmy.zip , just for the non delay with aussie.zone https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535
- Thx. I saw the rule. @ mods I’m fine if you want to remove this.
  I think federation needs to be better explained possibly here either with a sticky or sidebar. And a diagram of who we are federated with and not that’s live updated would be helpful too.
  Thanks for all the work you guys do
  
  At the bottom of the page on every Lemmy instance there's a link that will show you the instances it's federated and de-federated from. Look for the link labeled 'Instances' from a web browser. Here's the link for lemmy.world that your account is on-
  https://lemmy.world/instances
  
  That's never going to happen. The admins of Lemmy.ml are the actual developers who make the Lemmy software, so there is huge resistance to doing things that will offend them.
  There was a software project aiming at making a non-Lemmy Reddit replacement. The main dev got sick and basically the project (Kbin) died, though spawned a fork called Mbin, which afaik has barely been improved since.
  Though you may want to check out PieFed, even entirely aside from all of this. The set of features that it has been developing and the speed that they are added is nothing short of astonishing! Btw I am writing to you on Lemmy from PieFed right now.:-)
  
  https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started
  !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca

Since when does lemmy.ml ban political content? Is it on a specific community?
- Also looking at the mod log it looks like OP is lying to generate outrage and anti-tankie bait. I'm shocked I tell you!
- I'm on .ml and I've seen this video several times now.
- They only ban content that criticizes authoritarianism.
  
  Yep, it's very much "rules for thee but not for me" at .ml
  
  Lol

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Why are you posting on ML in the first place?
It's a tankie cesspool with instance-wide rules for white-washing genocide.
There are a few normal communities, but more and more of the normal ones are moving off of ML.
- .ml should be defederated from lemmy.world tbh
  
  There are still many non-tankie, normal tech communities on ML though.
  I am seeing a slow tendency to move off ML.
  
  I don't really care, both are pretty fucking bad
  
  In Voyager -> Settings -> Filters & Blocks you can add them there. It won't prevent tankies from infecting your threads but it's a good start. Individual blocks are easy on-the-fly.

I can't see evidence that it's banned. I'm on .ml and can see it just fine. It would be in the modlog if it were banned.

My guess is someone is afraid thinking about this content might threaten their politics.
- Knowing what I know about the politics of the .ml admins, this doesn't make any sense unless it was removed by a community moderator.

Can you cite where you posted this and what the reason for removal was?
- I don’t remember. I didn’t post it. I saved it, and then it was gone.
  
  How do you know the reason for the removal? Is there a modlog entry we can look at?
  
  Ah so just lying to create drama?

Politics: the activities of the government, members of law-making organizations, or people who try to influence the way a country is governed
All the comments against the decision i have seen on this post argue why the rule should be bypassed, not why this respects the rule

Does it even fucking matter what’s banned in what echo chamber??

The Fourth Reich is being established under our eyes. What’s the point of social media if a bunch of idiot mods can stop the world from seeing this very essential information?
I would like to have a better definition of what constitutes “political”, what is “humanitarian” then?
Should this be clearly defined per instance?
Like we don’t even have Reddit anymore. All we have is this sputtering slow barely anyone here fresh fragile digital space where we can share some minor resistance, can we at least not have any self sabotage here?
- Whats the complaint? Which community did you post this to? If it was posted to a community on lemmy.ml then its fair for them to remove the post, its their instance and they dont care about these posts. If this was reddit you'd have no where else to go. At least with Lemmy you can post to a community on a sane instance.
  Lemmy ML dont like the post because they are in favor of the government snatching people off the street without due process.
  
  It looks like lemmy.ml didn't remove it, but their staff are certainly anti-ICE, plenty of posts there for weeks full of outcry.
  
  Well argued.
  I didn’t post it, I just saved it somewhere on .ml and it is gone, and found it back on !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world
  My question stands though, I sense that “political” is used fairly broadstrokely It almost means “complicated, longer than 5 second attention span” stuff.
  With political meaning “relating to the government or public affairs of a country”, e.g. a broad definition too. However, a free person being essentially abducted on the street by plain clothes “law enforcement” could perhaps be seen as a humanitarian, civil liberty, freedom of speech, and some many others before it being just “political”.
  Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this or is a bit of an analogy to the r/TheDonald situation on Reddit? As in: I hope that we don’t slide the same way.