MAGAt loses his federal job

The trump sign probably only came down so they could put it back up at whatever trailer park they move into. They’ll gladly vote for the next trump-aligned fascist. These people are incapable of learning.
- Yup. Realtor likely took it down because any political flag will devalue a house or turn away potential buyers.
- Gonna be complaining DEI made him lose his job and Biden's taxes made him lose his house
- Yup.
  Been paying attention to American politics for 20 years now. Have watched Republican leadership fail so spectacularly that it even pissed off a bunch of conservative voters. Didn't matter. Next dogshit Republican candidate that came along, they were back onboard.
  Because conservatives would rather have an actual, literal dictator than a Democrat president. That's how far gone they are. They will sell out their country and their own futures to prevent the other team from winning. Hell, they just did in November. Economy is tanking and our allies all hate us now. Doesn't matter though. The Democrat was worse...somehow.

It's kind of scary that 3 weeks is all it took for them to list their home.
- It’s kind of scary that 3 weeks is all it took for them to list their home.
  The neighbor is part of the (in 2019) 51%.
  "Most Working Americans Would Face Economic Hardship If They Missed More than One Paycheck"
  source
  
  And on top of that for most government workers their paychecks have been remarkably stable. Assuming you'll always be employed plus easy credit and bad financial habits are a bad combination
  
  Man, that's tragic. I was poor most of my early life, and when I finally started to make enough money to be comfortable, I knew that the thing I couldn't do was fall into the lifestyle trap. Living well below my means saved me so much hardship when things weren't going well. I know that many don't ever get to the point of comfortable, though, and there's a bit of luck and effort, to that.
- Bet he also had a $100k truck parked in front of that home. Bought with a loan with 12% interest
  
  12% is pretty insane for an asset that depreciates as fast as a vehicle does.
- If their whole financial system is built on getting the next paycheck or else, this is quite to be expected. He might even be smart (for a magahead) putting it on the market as early as possible instead of clinging to it.
- Doesn’t seem likely unless he was renting. Even if you miss one mortgage payment, your bank can’t take your house that fast. If he was renting, he might have been threatened with eviction and chose to leave.
  
  Doesn’t seem likely unless he was renting. Even if you miss one mortgage payment, your bank can’t take your house that fast.
  If it was posted for sale it likely wasn't a foreclosure that fast. Perhaps the owner did the math and saw very quickly that they wouldn't be able to keep up with the mortgage, or no longer had any reason to live in that city because they were there only for the job. With the job gone, the need of the house in that city goes with it. I'm just speculating.
  
  Well if he was renting, his house being up for sale wouldn't really matter.
- It just kinda proves to me that the story is most likely bullshit, or they were always planning to sell the house.

The fact that this guy posts this on X with a paid-for blue checkmark tells you everything about why Trump won and why he'll keep winning. The left has made almost no effort to win the information space. They just lose and then celebrate when some of the harm falls back on MAGA.
How about his for a change: Win. Try to win. Stop kowtowing to right wing information propaganda spaces that stifle the left like X, Fox News, and Rogan. Fight them like the right fights the left in the information space. True, you won't get to celebrate when your neighbor suffers from Trump, but it'll be because he didn't vote Trump in the first place.
- I saw the "Dems are the Uvalde cops Magas are the shooters." And goddamn it salpped ever since. You guys need to get a real 3rd party that is real grassroots socialist.
  
  I've been watching people go on and on about a Socialist revolution since I read about Gene Debs in high school.
  I haven't seen them actually do anything yet.
  
  that would be me. sucks im too poor to run a campaign though lmao.
- This is a liberal account, he's not a leftist. Leftists have been in the streets, while liberals remain in the tweets.
  
  Nice rhyme, might steal it
  
  put that on a bumper sticker
  
  You expect a "both sides" maga to know that? Seeing all these "it's the dem's fault for not telling us how shit trump would treat us" folks is crazy. Everyone want to blame the dems for the lepords.
  
  This fuckin slaps
  
  everyone in the country should be liberal. but it seems most just ignore the term and definition behind it though and just assume only left/democrats want to have freedom
  
  There must be dozens of them.

We really need a Herman Cain Award for Trumpers who have lost their livelihoods. I used to love the old compilations of dozens of posts only to have the inevitable "COVID ain't no joke".
- Covid deniers when their opponent is covid

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- ^^^🎻

A Twitter checkmark? In 2025?
- Kinda cheapens the post a bit.
  
  You don't need to be right wing/maga to post engagement-farming on Twitter.

- thanks oBACHma
- Oboccherini

Trump crap was taken down on any neighbor’s homes (and there weren’t many) except one (and they have it kinda hidden) after 2020. Anyone supporting Trump at this point is an idiot, cruel, or both.
- Agent Krasnov is, by ALL objective measures, the most prolific Traitor in American history. In fact, he has probably caused more damage than ALL other American traitors COMBINED.
  At this point, anyone who still supports HitlerPig is as much an authentic traitor as he is. I only wish the very worst outcomes for them. Losing their jobs and homes is the mildest punishment they deserve.
  I operate a business, and I havent had to hire anyone lately. But if I were, I would absolutely ask them who they supported for president in 2020 and 2024, which is perfectly legal. Anyone who voted for HitlerPig would be immediately, and rudely, be rejected. I won't employ anyone with such obviously poor Critical Thinking Skills.
- Trump support has been on full display in my area without interruption. "Don't blame me, I voted for Trump" are the ones I'm keeping my eyes on the most, waiting for them to disappear.
- It's almost half the country though, he's got like 46% of people approve of what he's doing. I guess they're just less in your face about it.
  
  That isn't true. Only 31% of adults voted for him vs 30% for Harris. The majority of adults didn't vote because they didn't like either candidate.

What's FAFO?
- F Around and find out
  
  You can say fuck. It's okay.

I bet his flag is down just for selling purposes. He probably blames Joe Biden.

All my Trump neighbors are rental tenants so they get shuffled in and out every year by their landlords. A few MAGA banner fliers as well as a few families with small kids all got kicked out my neighborhood this last year for Sale signs to go up.
- They were tricked by a propaganda machine. They may have been willing participants but had they known everything they never would have voted against their own interests. Yet every country in the western hemisphere, South America, Africa, Asia, and well everywhere doesn't have anti propaganda laws. If you're rich you can buy influence in any neo liberal country. Why is that?
  
  How do you construct anti-propaganda laws that can't be used by bad actors to silence dissent? Genuine question if you have an answer but I don't think anyone actually does. The only actual counter to propaganda is quality education, which is where the US has been failing dramatically.

How the fuck did democrats go from the party that hates misinformation to the party that believes implausible posts on a platform known to be full nonsense because it fits a cute narrative?
- Ah, the classic anything I don't agree with is fake news.
  
  On Twitter, the site known for random misinformation
  OP knows their neighbor well enough to know where they work, despite that not being nearly as common these days and OP not seeming like the kind of guy that would befriend Trump supporters
  OP's neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that's the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now
  OP's neighbor simultaneously being a homeowner with a previously-stable job, but being in such dire financial straits that simply missing two paychecks results in a complete crashout.
  OP's neighbor then selling the house instead of taking advantage of the large number of hardship programs that would be available for someone with issues paying their mortgage, at least temporarily.
  Like is this possible? Yes. However it's highly implausible, and conveniently matches the whole "stupid Drunpf supporters regret their decision" narrative that both Lemmy and reddit absolutely adore. To take this at any sort of face value without any genuine shred of concrete evidence is insane.
- How did getting laid off during cutbacks go from commonplace to implausible? Are you taking the wrong meds?
  
  Nobody is this stupid. You're being intentionally dishonest.
  USDA isn't the private sector. There are strict rules against firing the vast majority of employees. It's why Trump has largely gone after probationary employees, as they have less protections. Even that has been wrapped up in several different ongoing court cases.
  There are also mortgage forbearance programs designed for temporary job loss. Even without them, foreclosure is a lengthy process. It's not something that's initiated after one missed payment.
  So for this story to be true:
  OP, a progressive Twitter influencer, lives next to a hardcore MAGA republican. Unlikely, but relatively common
  Said MAGA republican is also a federal government employee. More unlikely, but still relatively common
  Said federal government employee is among the roughly 10 percent of government workers that are probationary. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
  Despite being new to federal employment and federal employment known for someone that you do for the long haul for pension reasons, OP's neighbor has the money to buy a house. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
  Despite having the finances for a home, is in such dire straits that the only option after one missed paycheck is to sell their home. Very rare, but not unheard of
  Despite being very into politics and a government employee, is wholly unaware of the pending legal actions against said firing, including the current rulings reversing the staffing cuts.
  All of this is possible. The world is a strange place. However the confluence of all those things being true is highly improbable, perfectly matches the "dumb conservatives gonna regret their choice" narrative progressive influencers push, and is sourced from a platform known for being full of misinformation and bait.
- So anyways I started shit posting...
- Because a bunch of dumbfucks voted for a guy that made it clear he was going to fire a bunch of federal employees and then he did so and a bunch of his voters lost their jobs.
  So this really isn't much of a stretch to believe. If this exact scenario didn't happen, something close enough has happened to multiple people over the last 1.5 months, because that's what happens when you abruptly lose your source of income and live paycheck to paycheck, like most Americans.
- Just because the Democrats are the most left leaning party available to Americans doesn't make the democratic party a left leaning party. If anything the Democrats are centerists because their ultimate objective is to maintain the status quo. Lemmy reaches to far more countries that just the United States, places that have left leaning parties. Even left-wing extremists parties, although they're definitely on the ropes lately.
  The Democrats aren't a progressive party, they're a conservative party. It's just with MAGA in the room the scale has moved so far to the right that the center (conservative) seems progressive.

sad stuff... people voting against their interests
- They vote as they do because they're so impressionable. It's also why there's a huge overlap of religious nutjobs and Republicans.
  
  They vote as they do because they’re so impressionable.
  Yup.
  But I have zero sympathy for them because this isn't the olden days where someone had to travel to a library or enroll in a university and move away from home to gain access to knowledge. It's all there at their fingertips. They just have to be responsible enough to plug in to reasonable sources. And they aren't. They allow hate and fear to guide their decisions.
  It's 2025. There's zero excuses to be ignorant now. So they can suffer and I'll feel nothing for them.

Thots and pears.

God I hope this is real.

Good and screw the neo-Nazi who found the fuck out.

Please remember it is important to not gloat or "I told you so". This person, for a reason of which does not matter, has decided to exit the cult. This person needs support and praise for their bravery. I don't care if it is for a selfish reason.... ultimately they made it out, their mind is free! That is cause for celebration.
- Is there any evidence they decided to exit the cult? People will paint the walls beige when selling a house, and that doesn't mean they don't still like whatever red and green Christmas themed house they had to start with. Pulling down a flag while selling the house you can't afford doesn't actually mean you wouldn't still vote for him.
- Idk seems like that decision was made FOR him and not by him
  
  A not-insignificant portion of Trump's base will be in this boat, if they aren't already. We should be ready with messaging to pull them out of the cult, so that they don't fall back in.
- Heres the problem. We kept the gloating and "I told you so" to a minimum after Trump round 1 and the Civil war.
  Hammer it home. They need to know Every. Fucking. Minute. Of every. Fucking. Day. That the choices they made got them fired, took their job, and ruined their country. Almost everyone knew it was going to happen and warned them, and they just dug deeper with their knee-jerk "nuh-uh" fake news 3rd grade playground bully logic. They need to know beyond a doubt that they are stupid, short-sighted, easily manipulated bigots. Why? Because the only way they can change it and do better is if they fucking know it, believe it, and see that they need to change it.
  
  I think the "I treat people like shit and expect them to change their view because of it" is harmful.
  This is not how you change a mind. This is how to get sombody to double down on their bullshit who where ready to change their views.
- No, MAGAts revel in the misery they cause .. thay love "owning the libs" and literally want nothing else in life. Nothing. They are fueled by an insane level of hatred and cruelty. It is all they understand. When you point and laugh at them for the "face eating" ... they actually get it. MAGAts do not leave their cult, they just get displaced until the next cult that let's them be hateful racists comes around.
  
  But we can try
- What do you think this community is for, exactly?
  
  Sure, you're right that it fits. I thought it was worth mentioning for when people encounter these types when offline. I too enjoy the schadenfreude, its why I am here.
- Dudes a sucker. He'll get roped back in right away.

- oh they aint finding out

Thots and pears.

I get the hate, but I just can't bring myself to be happy about someone losing their home.
- If this were a normal, fairly subjective disagreement, I'd feel the same way.
  If this were a medium level disagreement and they were objectively wrong, I'd also feel the same way.
  Supporting Trump is stunningly, objectively wrong, and in doing so they're basically doing the opposite of this. They're supporting lots of people losing a lot more than their homes.
  I fully support being happy about it.
  
  The sad part about it is that they're probably blaming the democrats or the illegal immigrants or Zelensky or some other ridiculous bullshit, instead of facing reality...
- This person was happy to screw other people over and voted for it. The fact that they're reaping the results of the hate they sewed makes me happy and I don't feel the least bit bad about it.
- In every rational situation, I would fully agree. But this man elected someone who told them, to their face, that they would be downsizing the government. The WORKED for the government. I want to call it stupidity, but it was maliciousness that backfired, so yeah. Fuck em.
- happy
  I think the only reason people ever say things like this make them 'happy' is in the absence of a more accurate label.
  In a country devoid of legal justice, we've basically just been confronted by a thug who, while attempting to mug us at gunpoint, shot his own dick off when he was attempting to pull the firearm from his pants.
  So for the victim, there's a degree of relief that the threat from that specific thug is now over (unfortunately we're being simultaneously mugged by thousands of other identical thugs...), a complete lack of empathy for the thug from the victim (if you put my life in danger, I suddenly don't give a single fuck about the quality or preservation of yours); and a recognition of the comical irony of the thug's own weapon being the thing that disabled him.
  Against the contrast we've grown accustomed to of getting mugged and watching our assailants face zero consequences, the above stands out as uniquely positive, albeit morbid.
  Another angle: if you've persisted on dirty, sewage contaminated water your entire life; then get the opportunity to drink a glass of pure, clean water, you might call it sweet even if it isn't literally so; it just seems that way relative to the vile biohazard you're used to.
  So, happiness? No. The closest we'll be able to get to happiness? Yeah, probably.
  
  I think the only reason people ever say things like this make them ‘happy’ is in the absence of a more accurate label.
  Schadenfreude? Commonly translated to English as "joy at seeing other's misfortune." I hope in most cases it is more associated with seeing someone in the wrong receiving their comeuppance. The joy of watching your enemy suffer a setback or even defeat.
- Oh I sure as fuck can.
  
  Then you do you boo boo
- I'm simply happy that they're seeing what they wanted for other people. They voted for the man who openly said he would make life harder and kick people out of their homes, and they gleefully enjoyed it thinking it was only people they disliked.
  I'm all for people learning lessons the hard way when they refused to see reason. Especially when the reason was to be kind and empathetic in the first place.
- I get that we want to gloat. Because we were right. But what happens with this person? Does he see how wrong he was? Does he attempt to change his ways, and influence others who thought the same? Does this bring about any kind of positive change? Or does he just go live in his pickup truck with a camper shell and blame Obama and Biden because he’s poor now?
- He's not losing his home, it's the bank's home, being passed along to a new owner. He literally voted for what's happening right now, you reap what you sow.
- Think you're in the wrong community man. We're here to revel in the schadenfreude no holds barred.

I wonder sometimes if it is self defeating to brow beat, say "I told you so", or rub someone's face in it. Enjoyable as it may be.
- Some people only learn when something bad happens to them.
  
  Perhaps in private, but not if you remind them.
  Consider this. Your asshole detestable uncle loses his house. On the one hand you can text him and say you deserve what you get you piece of shit.
  Or invite him over to watch a baseball game. Avoid politics. Quietly remind him not everyone is a piece of shit.
  Which do you think will more likely change his mind? Or which one will he double down on, write it off as an accident, and go deeper down the hole. I took one for the team.
- Crisises like this is the opening to recruit the hitherto reactionary proletariat. Opinions are most often fickle anyways amongst the poorly educated. But damn its hard to not to feel gleeful for the suffering of hatefull fools.
  
  Schadenfreude for the wicked is something we all indulge in, but prolonging pain rather than soothing it breeds hatred. Some kind of fuel for the onlookers, but what happens when you unchain the dog you've been beating? Someone's going to win. Perhaps your team because the ire is high. But sacrifices have to be made. Your kin may die. Is that an acceptable result? That's up to you to decide.
- You have to ridicule them a little in person: "What exactly were you expecting, did you think people were overreacting?"
  The problem is you're never going to be able to stop the internet from over indulging on mockery.
  
  No you can't change the internet's mind, but how do people react to when ridiculed? How do you? I guess it all depends on what the end game is

I wonder if this has been substantiated in any way. If so, it would carry a great deal more meaning to everyone.
Either way, the whole DOGE experiment is nuts.

Is "MAGAtard" okay to say on Lemmy without getting banned? It's not a slur against mentally challenged people FFS, it's a slur against MAGA. I think MAGAt is a poor substitute.
- If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer. You can insult them without playing off of a slur for another group.
  
  When I ask a question it's because I don't know the answer. I don't pretend to have psychic powers like so many people on social media.
- You're part of the problem

how can you be happy on someone’s failure… this is disguising.
No matter what, we have to remember always to be humans with each others
- I don't see a failure? This individual got exactly what they voted for.
  
  being fired is a failure no matter who you voted for and he should’ve been helped by his neighbor to find a new job
- Failure? This is consequence.
  
  fair
- Trump promised to cut federal spending (which includes federal jobs), and federal workers still voted for him anyway.
  Why would I feel bad for someone who got exactly what they asked for?
  Want to know what's actually disgusting? The fact that that a 3rd of the country voted for the fat little orange rapist Nazi. You should be more upset over that.
  
  when you put it like that it makes sense
- There's nothing wrong with a little schadenfreude for people who actively try to harm others..
  
  that actually makes sense
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- I think you're barking up the wrong tree. It's kind of the whole point of this community