Republicans get behind effort to make hating Elon Musk domestic terrorism

Serious question: Historically, has a fascist movement ever been put down without the use of violence?
- It always ends in violence. The kind of person that creates these racist movements simply does not operate with a human mentality. They wake up in the morning and their first conscious thought is to benefit themselves, the second one is hurting others to benefit themselves. They are pure evil.
- Not once the ball gets rolling, no. Plenty of Fascism has been averted through preemptive nonviolent action though. In fact, that's basically how Democracy works; Constant nonviolent vigilance keeping Fascism at bay. But once Fascism gains traction, the only thing that works to get rid of it is violence. More people need to understand this. It's like that Kyle Reese speech in the first Terminator movie.
  "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!"
- Spain? Not super familiar with their fascist history.
  
  I think that ended with the death of their fascist leader and then a peaceful transition towards democracy. So it can happen but only if your leader dies and the successor wants to reform the country back to democracy.
  
  So much violence in Francos regime. Between 100,000 and 200,000 killed, with 500,000 fleeing into france. Absolute bloodbath. May he rot in hell forever.

I say we declare the GOP a terrorist group.
- They did declare themselves that at one of the CPACs, so only seems fair to make it official.
- J6

"Republicans do not support the first amendment."
- They also don’t support the USA.
  
  They're traitors, and you know what they say:
  He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.

"We Are All Domestic Terrorists."

Republicans are something society needs to leave behind in full. They literally don't stand for anything and are net negative for society.
- The destruction of the mainstream conservative media by companies like NewsCorp have yielded great results for right wing authoritarians.
- At this point, they clearly aren't even for corporations or shareholders, given the most recent cascade of economic catastrophes.
  
  This is the only hope for America not to fall, if Trump and Musk also screw the elites too much there will be much more likely a revolution.

"terrorist" has been so overused it no longer means much of anything. Like so many other words.
- never did. it was always a word to justify state violence.
  
  🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

Bruh...
I emigrated from a country that makes it illegal to criticize leaders
only to end up in a country that is also about to make criticizing leaders illegal.
Just... wow
(from PRC to USA)
- Come to UK / Europe. We've got universal healthcare and more robust democracy and many centurys long tradition of criticising and mocking our leaders.
  
  you.. want Americans to come there?
  
  Y'all need to invite Canada as a special member
- Torching and destroying cars and dealerships isnt the same as some critical speech... The title is just a complete clickbait fabrication...
  
  Torching and destroying cars is already illegal. No reason to designate it as domestic terrorism.
  
  If someone can't say that Israel is wiping innocent lives off their homeland in a fashion that can only be described as a genocide without it being deemed illegal and grounds for a criminal offense and/or other punishments, freedom of speech does not exist. It is in no way anti semitism. Israel is a state, not a religion. Long before Israel was paying politicians in the U.S. for their states best interests whether for the good of humanity or not, Jewish people existed, and long after the U.S. and Israel are gone, Judiasm will likely be here. Judiasm isn't asking them to murder children, politicians are ordering it.
  
  Oh they're including the people holding signs.

There is a lot of shit people aren't doing because they don't want to cross the line and become domestic terrorists. You do NOT want to move that line over them.

Quick history moment:
The US government has always treated politically motivated vandalism as domestic terrorism.
The FBI defined Earth First!, Earth Liberation Front, and similar radical environmental groups as terrorist organizations decades ago, because they spiked trees and burnt subdivisions and SUV dealerships.
The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act makes it an act of terrorism to vandalize a factory farm or animal research lab - even nonviolent protest that "intimidates" employees is illegal.
Some of y'all are acting like burning car dealerships was protected speech before Trump. Come on.
- It's not that. The law will be written vaguely enough to apply to people keying cars or slapping a sticker on them. You should probably start paying more attention. Fascism loves to creep like this.
  This coupled with the Laken Reilly act will be used to disappear people. They'll continue writing even more vague laws to classify people as terrorists. And the whole time half this country will just nod their heads and say "yea, makes sense to me. Those guys are bad guys". At least until they come for them or someone they know personally.
  If they revoke your greencard then they'll use the same logic to revoke citizenship for immigrants. Then they'll start revoking citizenship for children of immigrants born here. Then anyone that is a "terrorist threat".
  Your history is correct. But this is not the same. Don't fall for the reasoning given by fascist for why they want to implement new laws. Ask yourself: if the laws are already on the books to allow these acts of violence to be classified as domestic terrorism then why do they need a new law?
  It's because that new law is gonna give them much more power while needing far less (or no) evidence.
- This goes a bit further than that. They are trying to make spray-painting "ASSHOLE" on a Tesla an act of terrorism akin to burning down a Tesla factory. The two are not the same. This kind of law would make every graffiti artist a terrorist. That's not what anti-terrorism laws should be used for.

What a bunch of snowflakes. What's wrong? Are we hurting his feelings? The richest douchebag, who doesn't know what he's doing, with his head is so far up his own ass I'm sure he can taste it, doesn't like being called what he is? 🎻
Fuck him. I have no pity for fascists. 🖕🏾
- Poor Musk

Good to know that all that "George Soros interfering with muh freedums" was bullshit projection.
- Who could have known? These goddamn tankies, telling us not to immediately blame the Jews?!

Is it still terrorism if you destroy a Tesla on January 6th at the U.S. Capitol?

Such big man babies, they are going to make it illegal to not like them??? There is not a word in the English language that describes how baby, child like and immature this behavior is. I think we shall call it being musk. They are being extremely musky about this.
- I like it. Musky: a state of being petty or childish.
  
  I'm absolutely down, we should start using this.

Not being republican is now illegal. Cool cool cool.
- I mean they had to find some way to incentivize people to vote for them.

Well then I guess I'll see y'all at gitmo.

We are all domestic terrorists

So, the land of freedom is now trying to tell people what emotions they can feel? Against the guy who's supposed to be a free speech absolutist?
"You can say whatever you want, as long as it doesn't upset me."
The hypocrisy is unbelievable. You'd think they'd at least avoid making themselves look like complete fools, try to hide it a little?
- And decided by the guy who started the birther conspiracy, feeds the pedo conspiracy (while openly being one), and told the world that his Presidential rival "turned black".
  Fuck Trump and Musk, they both seem to be real musky about being called out for being awful humans. Trump should probably be more concerned with what JD is doing to the White House furniture, going to have to get plastic sheets to cover them all.
- You'd think they'd at least avoid making themselves look like complete fools, try to hide it a little?
  That'd require the ability to feel shame. These dipshits are proud of their ignorance.

I think those Teslas spontaneously incinerated themselves out of embarassment.

Trying to pin it on Democrats who supposedly funded it is pretty far out. Come on. How much funding does someone really need to make a fire?
- Dude I want to live in this world where the Democratic party is so far left that they're burning Teslas and talking about seizing the means of production from Elons factories. I really wish the Democrats were HALF as radical as these idiots on the right pretend they are.

from TFA:
go for the tires. easily accessible. high energy density.
- Just avoid setting the whole thing on fire. Lithium battery smoke is extremely toxic.
- Nice. If they'd had that as a color option, they might have sold more!

“Who is behind it? Who is funding it? Is there a link with Democrat-leaning NGOs [non-governmental organizations]?” Greene wrote Wednesday on X, hinting at some kind of nefarious conspiracy.
Have you considering the 2 million or so federal workers who were fired thanks to DOGE with Musks face plastered all over it? Pretty big axe to grind there.
Fucking jackasses.

Next thing you know they’ll be calling democrats an insurgency.
- They've been waging war on words for years now. Keep using them improperly until they don't have any meaning left. So... totally on brand
- They have been... In this very article they claim (with no evidence) that the Democrats are finding the NGOs that are doing this.

What about Vandalism against other car dealers. That's also domestic terrorism, right?
- This is coming from someone who doesn't necessarily disagree with burning down Tesla dealerships.
  Define terrorism
  Explain how burning down Tesla dealerships to resist Elon's political takeover is not terrorism
  
  If you want to define it as a political takeover then it's legitimate action to protect the state from an unelected and ineligible person conducting a coup. After all words have meaning right?

That makes me an international terrorist, i guess 😂
- Me too, you wanna hijack a plane? /s

- According to this, avoid her magic rings, and jump on her head three times.
  https://youtu.be/Wj5jQlry6Gs
  
  SMB3 might be the single greatest video game ever created.

My dogs face when I'm holding bacon is how I imagine Republicans look when they see a boot.

You hate him. Good. Then the time has come for you to take the last step. You must love Big Brother. It is not enough to obey him: you must love him.

But what about those of us around the world that hate him? Am I an international incident yet?

Stop it guys, you’re scaring him!

Can't wait until we're all mandated to purchase teslas. Garnished wages taste better.

Proud to be a terrorist I guess.

That only incentivized boycott more

Didn’t think they’d abandon Musk this quickly
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

Fucking moron sheep

"trump was right about everything", denial is the first stage of grief. the rest will come in due time don't worry.

That dude is EMBEDDED.

Great. Now I wake up a domestic terrorist and I didn't even do anything...

She looks so happy!

*ANd that's why "You never go full maga..." They should of watched tropical thunder could of prevented their whole movement.

So be it. Not unexpected when every head up there has a deep-seated persecution complex

No one ever said hating Elon Musk was a crime but destroying private property is. Burning down charging stations, dealerships, and attacking strangers for the type of car they drive are absolutely acts of terrorism. At the end of the day independents decide elections. Do you think this behavior makes democrats more appealing? Is this going to swing voters in your direction? You guys have really lost your way and i feel sorry for you.
- How dumb to blame democrats for the actions of leftists. Democrats don’t do shit.
  Also, none of that shit is inherently terrorism. It’s vandalism or criminal mischief until you consider the “political element.” The political element isn’t a thing since Elon isn’t running DOGE (as they claim).
  You cannot claim the vandalism at Tesla dealerships is politically motivated since you also claim Elon isn’t the one running DOGE.
- Man half the country is gonna be classified "terrorist" before we have another major vote again. You think people burning Teslas give a fuck about the democratic party that failed this country in a massive massive way for the last several decades.
  No one burning Teslas gives a flying fuck about the Democrats. I really want to live in your world were the Democrats are "radical leftist" and it wasn't just a few anarchist kids with some balls. I wish the Democrats had some teeth but they're a sad pathetic planned opposition party.
  You vote Fascism INTO power. It doesn't let you just vote it out. Anyone burning a Tesla knows that.
  
  Yes the people burning Teslas are obviously democrats. I'm much more interested in this fascism you speak of. Can you tell me any specific examples or experiences of fascism that you have endured? (There will be another election in 2026 btw.)
- Definition from the FBI:
  Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
  Definition from the US House of Representatives:
  (5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that—
  (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
  (B) appear to be intended—
  (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
  (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
  (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
  (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States; and
  (6) the term "military force" does not include any person that—
  (A) has been designated as a—
  (i) foreign terrorist organization by the Secretary of State under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189); or
  (ii) specially designated global terrorist (as such term is defined in section 594.310 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations) by the Secretary of State or the Secretary of the Treasury; or
  (B) has been determined by the court to not be a "military force".
  While you can argue that coordinated acts of destruction against Tesla dealerships could be defined as domestic terrorism, individual acts of vandalism against Tesla vehicles do not fall under this definition, nor should they. Otherwise, you could classify someone like Banksy as a terrorist. Is that the kind of world you want to live in?

Only people on the Left and Democrats hate Musk... this is what happens when a Republican is POTUS. The same shit happened when Biden was POTUS... the Right hated everyone and anyone associated with a Dem POTUS...
- Yep. White supremacists groups backing Trump and shouting "the Jews will not replace us" is definitely the same as destroying private property.
  The only difference is that the Trump told the proud boys to "Stand By". The left couldn't even get the Democrats to allow a Palestinian to speak at the DNC.
  Let's not pretend the "far left" is represented in DC. The "far right" is literally sitting in the white house as we speak. God, I wish we lived in this delusional world you crafted.
  
  The Left literally is okay with antisemitism. We have politicians on the Left that are openly against Israel and Jews. Yet, no one seems to care among the Democrat party. I don't condone the Proud Boys or Nazis, they're all idiots. But "let's not pretend" the Left is innocent in this political war.

2A supporters are just a bunch of cucks and cowards. They just want their guns to "Ali Wong" themselves and not protect anything.
- …”Ali Wong”?
  
  https://youtube.com/shorts/Wvuj4d45IJs

I hate Elon and I don't even disagree with targeting Tesla. But let's be real. Mass targeted vandalism and especially arson are clearly forms of violence. The victims of this violence are civilians and the purpose of the violence is to achieve political goals through instilling fear.
Agree with the actions or not, that's terrorism.
If people started targeting and burning down costcos for being woke/DEI, that would be terrorism for the exact same reason, not because the ideology is different.
People need to stop pussyfooting around the label and accept that words mean certain things. The issue is not whether or not it's terrorism. The argument should be whether or not the actions are justifiable.
It's like whinging about whether or not we say "Osama Bin Laden was killed" or if the person who shot him is a "killer" because killing in general is bad/wrong.
Now the government response of categorizing certain people vs others as terrorists matters. What it means for people resisting Trump matters. But those are different arguments.
- Buddy. This is pure rage. Terrorism is calculated. And comparing burning a Tesla to Osama Bin Laden is fucking laughable.
  
  I wasn't comparing Tesla to Osama Bin Laden? I was making an analogy to clarify my point of calling an obvious spade a spade. Terrorism doesn't have to be calculated, it just has to be politically motivated. I happen to agree with the political motivations and stance of the violence in this case. That doesn't change what it is.
- Those who make peace revolution impossible make violent revolutions inevitable.
  
  JFK 👆
- Yeah, America really hates people who use violence to achieve political goals.
  
  It is bad practice to post links without also providing quotes from the source to support your claim. You are wasting the other person's time.
- After 9/11 terrorism gained a much more negative connotation I think. Idk fully about what it was like before since I wasn't alive but in Deep Space Nine you literally have a character who said she was a terrorist and that's not really seen as like an inherently evil thing like it would be in the current day. I think people understood the nuance back then that sometimes terrorism ends up being justified when you're fighting for freedom against an oppressor.
  
  Totally agree.
- There is no political goal, He is not a politician. It is to force migrant Elon to pay tax on his loan collateral(stock) by crashing tesla stock prices.