Golden Money Goat Loves You
Golden Money Goat Loves You
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The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that patriotism is the love of one's country and nationalism is the belief that one's country is superior above all others.
Fascism is a centralized government underneath the authority of a dictator.
It's obvious that these guys want a nationalist and fascist government.
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Well that's not the definition of fascism at all.
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Good lord, you said nuh uh and linked a 20 minute video with no explanation. Congrats
lazy transcript of intro copy/paste.
fascism is a term i've heard thrown around since i was a kid but most of the time idiomatically fascist is what you called your type a passive-aggressive roommate stop being such a fascist deborah through osmosis i knew its literal meaning was among a cluster of related words authoritarianism totalitarianism white supremacy nationalism dictatorship but for much of my life if you pressed me to define any of these words i could have only said you know nazis hitler the gestapo you know nazis this colloquializing of fascism and its association with the cultural shorthand for pure evil makes it very hard to discuss as an ideology because even using the word fascism sounds both hyperbolic and like a punch below the belt to call a person group or idea fascist is to exaggerate for the purpose of dragging them this counter-intuitively prevents us from criticizing fascist groups even though most everyone agrees fascism is terrible because saying it you sound ridiculous you're talking about indiana jones villains so i'm going to be using the word fascism kind of a lot in this video hoping that we can semantically satiate it just enough that it's connotative meanings irreverent sarcasm and the envisioning of stormtroopers are dulled to the point that we can talk about fascism as a system of beliefs and as a mode of political organizing and about who practices it today our work necessitates a conversation about fascism specifically white fascism, fascism fascism fascism
Is there like a direct point you're trying to highlight for the class? It's honestly weird seeing "White Fascism", like... just the distinguishing 'white' term and making 'white fascism' seem more important than just regular ol 'fascism' makes this feel like a whole other level of racism/white superiority that blows my mind.
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that person is right. The term for an authoritarian government is.... Authoritarianism. Stalin's USSR was arguably authoritarian but it wasn't fascist.
Fascism is more precise, it's a far-right ideology and includes an economic aspect to its definition. I'm not going to link a video or anything else because this is a simple definition that you can easily find.
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Ty, wasn't trying to dispute correctness, just they never actually defined or tried to give a clear explanation (besides a 20min video not everyone is going to watch). As we've seen it's a simple definition but even the video points out it's more complicated because of how people are using it, highlighting just how important it is to make direct and concise declarations of what we're talking about so there is no confusion.
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Fair points, a video response for a definition dispute that isn't even concise is definitely an odd choice.
Nevertheless it's good for us all to think about what these terms mean because when the dust settles on this Trump crisis we will really need to think long and hard about what the world needs to look like moving forward.
Considering the issue resolved by voting out or otherwise removing Trump, by attributing the problem to him or to Putin's influence over him, or any other premature celebration of his removal without systemic change will leave us in effectively the same place.
Fascism is also sometimes described as a union of corporations and the state, I think that definition is very closely aligned with the American oligarchy and with Musk in particular. All of that must be cleaned up when the people regain control, not just Trump. Without systemic political and economic change at best we buy another 100 years.
The pattern of inviting Fascism to roost every few decades with developments in technology is not going to end well. Even this iteration may be what destroys us all.
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You see you say it's a simple definition but both this and your later comment are rather imprecise or even wrong, such as when you say it's described as the union of corporations and the state, but that has almost nothing to do with, hence I would implore you to watch the video I linked.
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Italian fascism, i.e. the iconic original fascism, absolutely had corporatism as part of its definition. To their credit, it involved not just business owners and employers but included employees at the table, which is better than American billionaire oligarchy.
It's not the universal and core definition of fascism but that's not what I said, it's an alternate definition which has applied to historical fascist regimes. Fascism is a far right ideology. It's not just classes and hierarchy or authoritarian government and nationalism, it's a fuzzy intermingling of many of those things.
The "simple" part of the definition is that it's a far-right authoritarian regime, which contradicts the oversimplification at the top of this thread.
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The commenter I replied to clearly only mentioned Fascism in one sentence and described something that's not the definition of fascism, the video is long and precise about what it is, specifically describes the aspects of the fascism white people tend to create.
Not sure what your issue is with the white qualifier it's rather clear what it means, video is 20 minutes long and very educational about what constitutes fascism and how to spot it developing, in fact the whole video series he has about is very good, if you want to, learn, if you don't, continue making upset comments on the internet.
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lol we're getting into oxymoron territory with your use of "long and precise". Again, you aren't defining fascism and getting on multiple people about being wrong. It's rather comedic at this point and you keep pointing to a 20minute video for a "definition". You're disputing terms while declaring someone needs to watch a whole video series instead of.... defining or saying what constitutes fascism.
If you can't clearly state for everyone wtf you're talking about specifically, I doubt the video helped at all and you're just tripling down on trying to be snooty.
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This is one wholly ironic comment with the amount of errors in it btw.
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You can doubt all you want, it's not easy to define what exactly fascism is, because it has many things it involves, but that's literally spelled out for you at the start of the video you seem bent on not watching.
But if you want the precise and short wording then it's: palingenetic ultranationalism, hope that helped.
Or here are 14 common traits of fascism by a political scientist, that identifies fascism, I dare you to define that shit in some nice non-run-on sentence
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