"Politics"
"Politics"
"Politics"
I seriously had a Right-Wing friend of mine try to tell me that
"The Trans needed some pushback because they were simply demanding too much" Card
Which hurt, especially with a "You need to learn to compromise, we're not asking much. It's not going to tear your arm off to put biologically accurate data onto government documents." Stat Boosting Spell Card he threw down when I pointed out that Trump was ordering people to put M's on Transwomen's documentation
I'd never been more insulted in my life. Bro had no clue he was legitimately saying the modern version of "Look the Government just needs to know your background, wearing that Star of David in public isn't going to get you killed."
Thankfully he was willing to listen when I pointed that goof out to him.... He's still a Right Winger who's now willing to walk back his statements in favor of "Agree to disagree"
I love my friend and I'd stand up if his rights were being violated, I'm just horrified to realize he absolutely will not show me the same decency.
i used to follow ytubers like that they will listen to reason, but was still "anti-wke this or that" something changed during the pandemic and then went full maga.
Ugh, I hate Right Wing Youtubers. You can see Google's political bias on full display with them. I always find it suspicious that non-political youtubers can't say "Kill" in ANY context without it being counted as a swearword on par with the N-Word...
But Right Wingers can say the most hateful shit and are still allowed to have a channel with PragerU platforming LITERAL CHILD ABUSE yet still being allowed to do a show targeted at kids.
There was this DBD Youtuber who was spitting straight facts about the horrible decisions made with the game, and then he moves from his first point (bullshit nerfs that feel so random that it's likely play testing wasn't done with them) to talking about how the game is "Unrealistic" and to that I said
"Okay... it's a dark cartoony game where you play Hide and Seek with Freddy Krueger and the Xenomorph, it 's not meant to be reali.... Ah THERE we go."
Why did I say "THERE we go!" Because he immediately jumps to "Like 1/5 of the cast is canonically gay! But there's only like .0001% of people who are gay in real life"
And I had to point out that "You were cooking... until you got really homophobic." in the comments
He actually responds to me and gets into a shouting match.
He goes on and on about how the character David King was "Clearly intended to be a straight man", because his backstory "Had him be VERY manly!", and that it was an attack on him personally that he was "Changed to be gay"
I calmly told him that the devs can do whatever they want with their characters. I mean yeah if they said "Oh , btw, Laurie Strode's a lesbian", that'd be bad because the job of the guest characters is to show them as they were IN THEIR ORIGINAL FILMS! But.. they didn't make Laurie Strode gay, they made David King, a character Behavior created themselves, gay.
He gave me the same bullshit about "David King's original story had him being manly!"
I pointed out that David King's CURRENT story still had him be manly, and that manly men exist in the gay community (With David being something of what they call a "bear" in the gay community), oh and the big one.. this wasn't some recent out of nowhere Overwatch-style retcon, he'd been hard confirmed as gay VERY early on... So, wasn't sure why he was complaining.
Because I knew that (very common and well-known piece of information), I outted myself to him as "ONE OF THEM!!111", and he said something to me I'll never forget.
That I was one of the "queers" ruining America, who was as he put it "Offended by Everything and Ashamed of Nothing!"
Now that was the most mask off he'd been all conversation.
I simply asked what was it he felt that I had to be ashamed of... Never got an answer, so I can only assume he didn't know himself.
Later I found I was subscribed to him, likely had done so early on in his vid. He was live-streaming killer and complaining about a well-known Youtuber who exposes Toxic Players in the DBD community... The whole stream it was nothing but shitting on this Youtuber for, and get this, defending gay gamers from homophobic bullies instead of "Letting them get what they deserve for shoving it down people's throats."
When I realized this I left the stream, downvoted, and unsubscribed.
I wish him well and hope he changes, but since I know he's unlikely to, deep down I hope he's having a rusty nail shoved up his dickhole and that it gets infected.
I've sadly since learned that the homophobe not only was still at the homophobia game, but had gotten the slogan "Ally to the Community" trending through the Toxic Side of the community as a backhanded way of insulting.... anyone Pro-LGBT affiliated with DBD.
My point is, I just hate people who do nothing but hate and how they that despite being the clear aggressor, seem to believe they're never the ones in the wrong.
Nyway, I should lay down for bed, but before I go I must say
inb4
"If they have a problem with things being shoved down their throats they shouldn't deepthroat so fucking hard."
This artstyle looks like "what if Control Alt Delete was drawn by someone who had fashion sense and also talent".
I like it.
Same, It's sad that art actually peaked in the 2000's, everything has to be "On Model" and "Simplified" now.
Is the “just because we disagree on politics we can still get along” frame of mind generally a conservative thing? Because on one hand, it makes sense. On the other hand, I find it very difficult, for example, to look past the fact that some conservatives want to stop aid to Ukraine (as a Ukrainian living in the US).
Indeed, many Conservatives are of the "I just ate, so I guess World Hunger is a myth" variety.
Unless something is specifically happening to them personally, it isn't THAT big a deal.
A lack of empathy is a hallmark of the ideology.
human and civil rights aren’t “politics”
If politics includes the realm of persuading enough people and institutions to adopt or forget laws and standards, however moral of immoral they are, then rights of any kind are political.
Rights aren't given in society for nothing. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights were created following WWII in which we saw the greatest political conflicts in the modern, technological age. Civil rights, at least in the US, have taken many acts as well as background political pressure to get to where we are today, and this institutionalizing of equal rights among American citizens only started after the US Civil War, the only civil war that country had ever experienced at that point.
Everything is politics.
why not? What definition of politics are you using
I guess you’re right.
I was at a loss as to what to do when a few of my friends were expressing support for Trump, knowing that he plans on cutting aid to Ukraine (as well as other fucked up shit).
Just wanted to say thank you. I never explicitly thought of it this way. Just that human and civil rights are important. I'm going to start framing it this way because it's the truth.
...at first i thought this was because some left Parties don't care about all these stabbings.
But that's more an issue in Western Europe then while MAGAs show their potential of destructivity in US.
More often than not, MAGA tend to stab themselves in the back. They just don't have the self-awareness for it.
The upside to Fascism is that it's never back in town for long. You don't have to worry about it becoming the new status quo.
The bad news is, you do absolutely have to fight tooth and nail because although it will take itself out in the end, it will take innocent people with it. The reason we fight is to do three things
Sometimes they become selfawarewolves. Is there an instance like leopardsatemyface on lemmy?
Edit: yup !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world
was thinking of saying the knife should be in the back but the artist is right. this is pretty in the front.
Yeah now with trump them trans kids have to show them genituls at sports events.
What do you mean I don't have insurance anymore? I don't understand!
I'm honestly surprised we haven't accused the people demanding "Genital Searches" of being paedos
Pretty much the level of thinking of these people.
A lot are looking at things like COL increases and one party claims they're gonna lower prices and lower taxes and they don't think about all the benefits they get from certain policies that are likely to be reversed and seem to think the biggest government budget is foreign aid, so all you have to do is cut that to solve the problems.
99% of partisan voters do this, unfortunately.
At least, that's the case if you look back at the last eight years. It's a testament to the grip that the rich have on the poor here that anyone still votes Democrat or Republican.
BUT, I agree 100%. If your politics are deliberately harmful to marginalized groups, it's pretty fucked up to make the argument that "it's just politics".
Pretty much every damn thing is political.
"it's just politics" is such an empty statement.
Had kind of a similar conversation with my dad recently. "I'm sorry you feel that way." "Well they're cutting Medicaid, so we'll see how that goes for you."
‘I’m sorry you feel that way.’ He’s sorry you think people should have equal rights?
Your dad doesn’t have a political problem, he has a morality problem.
Even the non-apology "apology" is unacceptable!
Please remind us in four years what happens
My trumpet sister has wisely stopped praising her false god in my presence when they visit at least
Charisma increases by +10
Tolerance paradoxically demands intolerance of the intolerant.
It was pointed out to me a while back that the paradox of tolerance is only a paradox if you consider tolerance to be a philosophical position.
In fact, we don't treat it like that. We treat it as a social contract, in which context it is no paradox at all to say that if you aren't tolerant then other people aren't obliged to tolerate you in turn
The term paradox was used because it comes from the "so much for the tolerant X" instances during mid XXth century. It's the incorrect assumption that tolerance is somehow a foundational principle of some ideology, mainly left, socialist and communist ideology; just because they were protesting intolerant policy and stances from the right. The right stupidly believes that this means that the left advocates for unlimited tolerance of everything as an extension of fundamental freedoms, like free speech and free thought.
This was at a time when the debate on the lawful limits of freedom in democracies was raging. In comes Karl Popper and produces the formal philosophical formulation of the paradox. He starts at freedom and demonstrates that in order for a free open and peaceful society to exist, then they must be tolerant, but, they must not held tolerance as a tenet, instead being intolerant of any intolerance. It is important as the first philosophical formulation of liberal democratic thinking. It actually distances itself from communism because, according to Popper, communism and even socialism will always end up in bloodshed, violence, and suffering.
The concept of social contract was not unknown to Popper, but it was not necessary for his argument to make sense. For, since Weber, it's understood as a given that wherever humans happen to live in community, some form of social contract will exist. Popper is not concerned with the existence of the contract, but to argue about its content.
That realization was life-changing for me. It finally gave me the clarity to walk away from toxic relationships, knowing they were the ones holding back any real growth.
The only downside is that trying to explain this to someone intolerant just gets you labeled, quote, "a stupid science bitch who can't make them smarter."
It's not really a paradox when you think about it. In fact, it's absolutely necessary.
Yeah i originally was going to write "seemingly paradoxically" but it made it seem more like I was saying "seems to demand..." And I wanted to make sure it came across as a definite, if you know what i mean.
It's Karl Popper time!
Curious. How does that work when someone is beating you with a baseball bat or robbing you?
As MartianSands pointed out, tolerance is not a philosophy; it is a social contract. When intolerance breaks that contract, the tolerant are under no obligation to tolerate it.
You don't tolerate it....? Is this supposed to be a trick question? Sometimes when you don't tolerate something, you are largely powerless against it and it still happens. Sucks, but that's life. You don't have to roll over and present your balls to the bat though.
"What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?"
This is democracy manifest!
The Left and the Right feels like Feet Guys vs Cannibals chewing on a bunch of toes.
As a leftist feet guy who is regularly chewing on toes I can confirm.
I tried to support this artist on Patreon. Heard there were NSFW comics there. Well, yes, but mostly a creepy OnlyFans-esque collection of nearly nude sexy photos of the artist, with frequent calls for payment for explicit nudes.
(Edit from below, as I figure out what I’m trying to say) It’s a sort of emotional bait and switch. “Come support me, there’s nsfw comics.” “Ooh I love those, my wife loves those, I’m in.” “Whoops, actually there’s also these risqué photos. Maybe your wife will be ok with it, maybe not. You can choose to have the conversation if you want. But now I’ve handed you a problem, unless you want to just immediately unsubscribe. In which case I still keep the money but you get nothing. Thanks for your support!” (End of edit)
Only artist Patreon I’ve ever unsubscribed from for content reasons. (I’m married, intended to support an artist, not to gawk at an OnlyFans.) From what I can tell from kemono (Patreon content mirror - visit with Adblock on), she’s still doing it.
I’m genuinely not sure if I’m being too sensitive or if this is genuinely behavior that shouldn’t be supported. Comics like this one are really good. I’m torn.
It is perfectly fine that you don't like the behaviour, but that doesn't mean the behaviour isn't valid.
I also think it is strange, but not something detrimental. You subscribe to her account, you get comics and nudes. I don't see a problem with that, but I can understand if it's problematic for you due to different surrounding circumstances.
I’m genuinely not sure if I’m being too sensitive or if this is genuinely behavior that shouldn’t be supported.
There's nothing inherently wrong with that content existing, and being something people can pay for, but you're also not being too sensitive for not personally wanting to pay that artist, if your surrounding circumstances would make the access to explicit content then seem a little unsavory in your particular case.
Ideally, that artist would let you pay for just the non-NSFW content, or simply send a tip/donation directly, instead of requiring the NSFW content to be bundled with any attempt at payment, but that doesn't mean that offering NSFW content itself "shouldn't be supported," even if it's not desirable in your case.
Absolutely. If there was a set of tiers that had NSFW drawn comics and absolutely zero mention of any risqué photos, I’d subscribe again. “Character Cosplays” is in every tier and really shouldn’t be. (And should really be clearer that this includes like hand-bra photos and such. “Note: contains sexually suggestive photos of the artist” or something.)
She is within her rights, and so are you.
Ironically, this is valid version of the above comic’s invalid application of agreeing to disagree. Neither of you are hurting the other by having differing opinions.
If you haven’t already, you should send a message to the artist voicing your moral support but explaining why you can’t financially support her.
More power to them. And you did what you're meant to do on the internet, "I don't like that" leave and move on. Thinking about it and justifying yourself is a bit weird.
I think you're being too sensitive tbh. The artist probably really needs the money if they're doing onlyfans. Just let your partner see the what and why, and there shouldn't be an issue.
I don't care to support any only fans content. At the same time, I love the art the comic creator creates. I relate to your feeling of being torn
Out of curiosity, what did they look like?
Not every photo was like this, but the ones that forced my hand were clearly suggestive of a strip-tease. And that specifically is what I didn’t want in my Patreon feed, in between her NSFW comics (which I enjoyed!) and other pervy content creators and, you know, retro gaming and science YouTubers.
My wife looks at pervy stuff too, and we share links / peep at each other’s monitors, etc. And honestly she might be totally fine with it, especially if I explained it. I just felt like it wasn’t worth having an uncomfortable conversation with my wife over. It felt like an inconsiderate emotional bait and switch. “Hey Reddit, come to my Patreon for pervy comics.” … “Now that you’ve already paid, and unsubscribing would mean I keep the money and you get nothing … surprise, there’s also nearly-nude or hand-bra-type pics, that you can’t remove, with frequent reminders that the $50 tier gets full nudes. Now I’ve handed you a problem. Now you have to deal with this. Thanks for your support!”
I don’t think kemono has everything archived but you can see enough there to get a picture of what she’s been doing. And I want to take a moment to subvert that scummy call-and-response site spam pattern that gets used. I’ve only ever visited this site with ublock Origin on Firefox, so it could have the worst sort of pop up cancer and I wouldn’t know any better. If you visit, keep your shields up. But kemono seems to be a site that mirrors Patreon and other similar sites, via users contributing their logged in session keys and letting the site mirror whatever they have access to. I didn’t know about kemono dot Sierra Uniform until recently and I have no idea if references to it are kosher. But there you go.
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Didn't see her Patreon or OF but She really look like IRL version of Comic Character.
I think I would be the same way tbh. Like I don't care that they do it, but I defo wouldn't expect it in the same place as art content. Although it's allowed, I think I would do the same as what you did.
Most of the comics artist do NSFW on Patreon. It's nothing too crazy. I guess. Like top of artist on r/comics make NSFW comics on Patreon.
I would not say you're being overly sensitive. I think it's frustrating that they don't just have a separate patreon or OF for that kind of content.
If you're trying to understand an artist then you've already failed.
Philosophy Tube recently did a great video on exactly this. It's on Nebula for those who subscribe.
Gave a down arrow for the artist not the message
What's wrong with the artist?
Some people don't like her because she makes a lot of comics that are like, "Haha, I have portrayed myself as the chad and you as the wojak, therefore I am superior!" Without having any actual comedic value. Example 1, Example 2 (both are reddit links, you have been warned).
She also threatened r/bonehurtingjuice with legal action to make them ban remixes of her comics, something not even Stonetoss (the Nazi comic everyone hates) has done.
Some people hate anything they perceive as popular, even within a niche.
Probius answered your question for me
I hate this art style almost as much as I hate Ben Garrison's
It's extremely bland, isn't it?
It looks pretty normal to me...
Idk, it almost just depresses me to look at it. Something about it feels like 2000s benign
Wow, are conservatives murdering and assassinating transexuals for being transexuals now? Where are the news about these events?
I do not believe conservatives are mad at or hate transexuals
I do believe, however, Conservatives don’t really care what you do on your own. Most disagree with transexuals in general, but most also aren’t interested in bossing you around.
I believe your post presumes wrongly that conservatives are spending their days obsessively looking for ways to control or cause either direct or indirect harm to you. They’re not.
The only things they are not really okay with and won’t allow you to do is pushing your views on them.
I understand they will be okay if you don’t ask them to change the facts on your birth certificate (yes, conservatives see what is in there as facts, you can disagree, but that’s how they see it)
I believe conservatives will be mostly okay if you don’t try to pass laws that punish them for not getting on board with your chosen views.
Same as well with using the state apparatus, taxpayer money, or use public schools to push your views.
They would probably be okay with consenting adults being free to dress in whatever way they want and do whatever they want to their own bodies.
However they would be also expecting to not be compelled in any way whatsoever to play along.
Again, that would mean no laws would be made to compel people to use pronouns or any other language they believe to be untrue.
Most surely, they would like that, In the same vein as dressing up differently doesn’t give you access to opposite sex bathrooms, getting surgical procedures done on yourself wouldn’t also give you access to the bathrooms of the opposite sex.
Very probably, In an ideal conservative world, transition surgery would be categorized as an elective cosmetic surgery, and advertised as such.
But yeah I'd like to see some sources on the murderstabs
Same as well with using the state apparatus, taxpayer money, or use public schools to push your views.
Yeah these same conservatives are trying to editorialize what books are available in libraries, I don't really think they have personal freedoms at heart.
I do believe, however, Conservatives don’t really care what you do on your own.
Then they should quit proposing and passing laws that affect and inhibit individual choice regarding sexuality, gender identity, and reproductive freedoms.
What?. No one is doing that LMAO
Who the hell says "transsexuals" anymore except folk who were out in the 90's?
If you would like to read some articles how about Forbes?
NBC?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna125783
Congress? Bonus points they give you the stories of a bunch of the victims.
https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117016/documents/HMKP-118-JU00-20240321-SD015.pdf
How about a long term view over ten years? Statista
https://www.statista.com/statistics/944726/murders-transgender-gender-diverse-people-us/
And these are the murders we know. They are difficult to find because a lot of coverage buries the lead on the trans nature of the victims so we only learn about them being trans after the fact. A lot of newspapers use dead names and pre transition photos and don't mention current names and identities so in some of our communities we only know when someone has died except through word of mouth because when they show up in the paper they aren't recognizable. This is also why articles tend to use the words "at least" or have inconsistent counts per year. New ones are always coming to light as friends and family struggle to get the word out.
You do not see these news articles because your news silo filters them out. There are vigils every year where the names are read out. The circumstances of those vigils are that the main reason for the violence was because of the victims gender identity. You asked for sources. Have at em.
Yeah and all these dead transexuals, are they dead because they were targeted by conservatives or are you just assuming that must be the case?
Because that doesn't look like a concerted effort to wipe them out.
Not reading all that. Fuck off, transphobe
No arguments? Cool I guess
I believe your post presumes wrongly that conservatives are spending their days obsessively looking for ways to control or cause either direct or indirect harm to you. They’re not.
Then explain all your subsequent statements where conservatives are doing that very thing.
Same as well with using the state apparatus, taxpayer money, or use public schools to push your views.
The fact that transgender people exist is not a "view". It's a scientific fact. Maybe if your school had been funded better you would know this.
However they would be also expecting to not be compelled in any way whatsoever to play along.
It is not a game. They are not playing. They are expressing themselves. Treating them the way they want does no harm to anyone.
Most surely, they would like that, In the same vein as dressing up differently doesn’t give you access to opposite sex bathrooms, getting surgical procedures done on yourself wouldn’t also give you access to the bathrooms of the opposite sex.
Having mis-matched clothing or genitalia has never stopped anyone who wanted to do harm to someone else in a bathroom. This is a bullshit issue. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/no-link-between-trans-inclusive-policies-bathroom-safety-study-finds-n911106
So no one is getting targeted by conservatives? Because that's a very big thing to say. Anyone would expect this to be on news 24/7 if it were like that
Open up a dictionary, and look up the word metaphor.
Current and new legslation, is resulting and will result in people dying.
And even outside that, yes, there absolutely have been murders where the motive was literally just "they were trans".
I don't even need to look it up to be 100% sure that has happened.
Additinally, having the world treat you, as if you are something you are not, is lethal. If you woke up tomorrow, and everyone around you insisted you were something you don't feel you are, eventually, you'd end yourself.
Maybe it would take years. Maybe you'll be able to tough it out and not take the easy way out, but even if you manage to outlast the misery and die of old age, you won't have gotten to really live, to experience the acceptance you and I take for granted on a daily basis.
"Playing along" isn't optional. It's to the human mind what water and food is to our bodies.
The post is basically implying a concerted effort in wiping out transexuals, but that's not the case
Also, being "pretty sure" doesn't fly in a court. You have to prove big accusations like that
You are on the wrong side of history, unfortunately you have plenty of company.
As for pushing views on others, not everybody is Christian, not everybody is straight, and white. But that's been pushed on Americans for a long time. Those times are over, and MAGA is just an angry mob that can't handle change and progress.
No arguments? Cool I guess.
Wow, are conservatives murdering and assassinating transexuals for being transexuals now? Where are the news about these events?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/us/sam-nordquist-trans-man-murder/index.html
it's actually so common that it doesn't usually make the news except when it's ultra horrific like this
Wow just one, oh the humanity
Outliers are a thing
Yeah that’s why they’re also going after porn, no fault divorce, abortion, gay marriage, interracial marriage & drag queens. Because they don’t CARE what you do, they just want to criminalize you ever talking about it, advertising it, displaying it, or doing it.
“Conservatives want to murder all trans people” is hyperbole, but you’re living in the “conservatism = freedom of personal choice” fantasy land that used to be called libertarianism. If it ever existed, which is very doubtful, it certainly doesn’t now. You are in bed with the religious right that does actively want to criminalize all these things. Project 2025 puts that in black & white if you were too oblivious or stupid to realize it before.
Also, on a more personal note, fuck you. Trans rights are human rights.
So if it is hyperbole, why y'all getting mad at an hypothetical?
The post seems to imply that there is a concrete effort in wiping out transexuals all over the place. But that's not the case
It's a big accusation to make with no certain proof
Also loved the lack of arguments descending into name calling, keep it up
You sound ignorant, transphobic and racist af, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
You live in a make believe bubble that isnt reality in the slightest.
Conservatives are the least tolerant group of people in the country, with zero diversity.
Fuck off shitstain Trump loving inbred bitch.
I'm actually surprised you were able to read the comment given your lack of arguments, but descending into name calling is par the course when you have nothing else I guess
That's not so much a murder stab as a flesh stab. To spell that out, it can be a metaphor for:
Ah yes because talking to people is equivalent to murdering them, case closed, thank you, gutsy gumshoe
You can "believe" all you want in your happy little make-believe bubble, but the facts are that conservatives are trying to ban, restrict, redefine, and remove trans people from getting healthcare, from being referenced in media or schools (censored), and removing them from the military.
Here's the list from the ACLU of all 456 anti-LGBTQ bills in the US.
https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2025
Yeah, conservatives are so tolerant....
...oh. And there's never been a law to force people to use correct pronouns. Ever. There's never been an effort to "force" anyone or do anything. People were simply asking for you to respect them by using preferred pronouns. Asking for people to respect them as a human being is apparently an affront to US Conservatives.
Does that sound like murder? Nothing like the sorts
Trans rights, quit lying to defend the people who want to outlaw my existence
edit Ooh hey the comms you moderate explain a lot about you :D why are you such a blatantly lying, hateful asshole?
No one wants to outlaw your existence lmao 🤣. I really doubt anyone cares that much about a random dude on the internet
Love your lack of arguments descending into name calling tho, I know you are doing your best
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/us/sam-nordquist-trans-man-murder/index.html
Here is 1. I just searched "trans murder usa" and this story was basically the first 5 stories and reading any of them should have been faster than writing your post.
That's a lot of words just to admit you're fucking stupid.
Maga is fascist, not conservative.
Because of its strong stated desire to return to an idealised past it is both. There's no need to split hairs.
You're literally voting for the scum that are rolling back their rights, you dense pancake.
I do like pancakes
Hmm, are those conservatives in the US Government? One state just passed a law making exhibitionism a felony if intent is established, but if the exposed genitals differ from the "expected" genitals, intent doesnt matter. Separate but equal i guess.
Sorr-, you are already way too deep in your rabbit hole. Nobidy of us will get you out there. Probably truth.social is a better platform for your views (judging from your profile).
Apologia at its finest! Well done.