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  • That's a valid concern. And I think to solve that in a clean way and altogether, they need some options to restrict commenting or voting to subscribers only. Meddling with other features and how communities can be found, so people can keep hiding in Lemmy's noise... is a very indirect approach and doesn't go all the way.

    I've seen a bit of that issue in connection with the All-feed. Back when AI was still largely hated on, we regularly had some amount of downvotes creep into the few dedicated AI communities. And while I support people downvoting the flood of AI related stuff in general news and technology communities, I don't see any reason to drive-by downvote an AI post in an AI community. But that has stopped since. And I don't think I've seen anyone come in and pick fights or something. It was just some minor but noticeable and constant stream of downvotes. So I can definitely see how these things would be annoying to some people. On the other hand I think people wanting to subscribe to things and having curated feeds, might also be a valid request.

    • restrict commenting or voting to subscribers only.

      Feeds subscribe you to those communities. Maybe if the feature didn't do that it would make more sense but with the current way things work it would require a different solution. Personally I strongly believe in granular control over to which feeds the community gets added with default opt-in where mods can react if something unwanted starts happening.

      • Feeds subscribe you to those communities

        I mean if you click on subscribe, to subscribe to all the communities within, that's kind of intended behaviour?! If you just view it, it shouldn't really be an issue. I guess there is some way to figure this out in an acceptable way.

        But yeah, we can scrap my idea if it's used this way. Maybe just don't offer one big subscribe button for all of the group, so users need to make a deliberate choice and click on all the communities seperately?

        • How'd you follow a feed to regularly visit if not without subscribing to it? The person you responded to complained that communities may get unwanted traffic if they were included in bad feeds. So while you suggested subscribers only comments and it would work for 'all' feed to filter out low effort trolls it wouldn't work with feeds where they are already subscribed to it.

          Just like with communities where you don't look them up each time you want to see their content and you subscribe to them to have them easily accessible on you subscribed list or in subscribed feed the same would go for feeds.

          I may have missed your subtle suggestion somewhere about changing the behavior of feeds in which case the feature would check out although that would cause some friction still when it comes to ease of interaction.

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          I mean if you click on subscribe, to subscribe to all the communities within, that’s kind of intended behaviour?!

          The conversation isn't about fair users anyway. If someone comes in without care about community talking bs then it wouldn't matter if you gave them option to avoid it because they would do it anyway. Just like people don't bother with block feature which there always was.

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