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Rule-level vision test

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And what am I expected to see?
- Depending on your brain you will see different things! This experiment relates to visual cognition. If you see a dark orange circle your brain leans high-level vision and the dimmer the orange circle is (or if you don’t see one at all) the more you lean low-level vision.
  
  I doubt a single image can say something so broad reaching about someone's cognition. You'd need multiple images displayed in more standardized conditions to know anything with confidence. People could be seeing this on all sorts of displays, from an OLED smartphone screen with blue light filter enabled, to an HDR monitor with custom color calibration. They could have the image fill different proportions of their field of view and see it in very different emotional contexts. A single data point cannot say anything about a person's cognition.
  On top of that, I have no idea what you mean by high vs low level vision. Are you talking about bottom-up vs top-down processing more generally?
  
  Regardless, a single image on 196 can't fully demonstrate which way you lean on anything.
  
  What does that mean tho
  
  Scientists are still figuring that part out! They have found statistically significant differences in how people experience illusions like the above one. They think it might say something interesting about perception and variance in perception across individuals.
  People working in AI are highly interested for the same reason (understanding how humans perceive the world might help them build AI that can too).
  Merav Ahissar is a big name on the cog sci side of this research if anyone wants to dig into the (rather dense) science.
  
  I only see red and black colors
  
  I know I'm somewhere close to aphantasia, you didn't have to rub it in!
  (Genuinely though, you might wanna consider providing some links like the VVIQ or a general definition of aphantsia before throwing around terms like "low-level vision" because otherwise you might unintentionally come across as a bit insulting) @bownage@beehaw.org see here :)
  
  Thank you!
  This is very interesting. I took the VVIQ and the result days hyperphantasia, which I think is a little exaggerated because I mostly answered 3 or 4/5 but still cool.
  My friend in psychology has aphantasia, it's always interesting to talk to him about how he experiences memory.
  
  This seems a bit flawed. I have aphantasia (which is what I assume you mean when you say low-level vision) and I can see a red/orange circle. (I'm going to assume the difference in colour is because of my screen) It isn't well defined but it is bright and I would guess that I wouldn't see one at all since I can't see anything in my mind at all.
  
  What if I can alternate between both?
  Edit: I've looked at it a bit more:
  I can make the black circles into "windows" that show a red circle behind a white wall.
  I can also overlay the red circle as a mask in front of the black parts, so that only the black parts make the red circle visible (like in a shader program or when masking parts of an image in a photo editor).
  Then I can also envision a red hue along the white parts of the image that follows the silhouette of the red circle.
  And then I can "deactivate" the silhouette again, so that the red parts are simply drawn on top of the black circles, with no relation to each other.
  I think this is just a test to see if you have experienced a certain effect before.
  
  What if the circle is bright red?
  Edit: oh I see the circle now.
  
  and if see a bright red? this doesn't seem very scientific I'd love to see some more info
  
  Yeah I see red circle
  
  seeing through an optical illusion is low level vision?
  
  All 3d images on a flat surface are an illusion in the same way as this image. It simply uses very limited depth cues when compared to most images.
  
  Glide failed to gray l grab this image
  What vision do I have?

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