Looks neat

Stands to reason she's has her face broken once or twice.

The skin looks a bit too smooth for a medieval setting, but maybe its magic 🤷
- she is so magical that the biggest baddest faction was hunting her most of her life, only fair it also grants perfect skin.
- Probably. Her adopted mother, the witches, do this, so maybe they taught her.
  I blame UE5 though
- Maybe it’s Maybelline

This is more psychotic than any of the dialogue in American Psycho.

Oh, it is not. It is on par with the book.
The book is faaaaaar more psychotic than the movie.
- Is it more American too
- I feel like the author wanted me to get bored by the over the top depravity and violence as part of the feel of the book and the characters mindset.
  On the plus side, it was an effective technique that worked and added to the character of the book.
  On the downside, it worked and made the later parts of the book obscenely tedious.

Bet this guy can tell someone’s IQ by their ~~skin color~~ skull shape.

oh noooo a fictional female character that is not catered for my wanking needs boohoo

I'm more worried about her having mutation potions (and them working instantly, but that's more expected), they better have a damn good reason for her body not melting

They pretty explicitly make it sound like she underwent Witcher mutations in the meantime. How that happens, I have no idea, maybe it'll be a plot point in the game? If they hand-wave it away I'll be disappointed
- Yeah I was also wondering as soon as I saw her cat-like eyes.. Thought it's not possible anymore but let's see. Hopefully they'll explain it
- I think this is from the movie Thank You For Smoking. I think about it all the time. They were discussing having a paid advertisement of an astronaut smoking in a space station. One character points out it wouldn't work because of the pure oxygen environment being explosive. The other character responds "We'll just say 'oh thank God we invented the whatever device!'" It's sort of become an in joke with my wife about rough edges of plots in sequels.
  I haven't played any of the games, so I don't really know why they couldn't.

She looks 40, now as a 30 year old I couldn't have less of a problem. At this stage of my life I prefer my women to look like they've been an adult for a while.

One of the reasons I avoid the gaming communities. So much complaining / whining / negativity / cynicism.

Misogyny, racism, transphobia, toxicity, unfunniness, bullying. Fuck gaming communities. I'll play my single player games and seldom post anywhere about them.

When you get so into looksmaxxing that you start sounding like you're going through psychosis

Women bad.

You can learn it practically if you take a couple of anatomy classes oriented towards a medical career. A good chunk never really get used outside of precision in documentation, if it's a specialty (everyone says "cheek", but the dentist says "buccal"), or if the common term is actually too vague to work with (broken arm -> greenstick fracture of the left radius)
Taking an anatomy class to talk like a plastic surgeons billing notes is just weird.
You can learn it practically if you take a couple of anatomy classes oriented towards a medical career. A good chunk never really get used outside of precision in documentation, if it's a specialty (everyone says "cheek", but the dentist says "buccal"), or if the common term is actually too vague to work with (broken arm -> greenstick fracture of the left radius)
Taking an anatomy class to talk like a plastic surgeons billing notes is just weird.

This is like the lame version of those people who can locate your position on the globe by analysing the only visible cloud in one of your photos.

more like mentally unwell people who get that invested in the media they come to analyze the bone structure of a character and link it as a reason to some imaginary wokeness

Yeah it’s sad. I’ve also seen a lot of people crying because Ciri is just sooo boring. I’m guessing those either didn’t play or like W3.

I will say I’m disappointed in the voice actor change as I liked the original VA, but any fan will get over that pretty quickly.

Her facial shape or whatever does look slightly different from W3 Ciri in ways that don’t happen just with age but given the new engine and whatnot, who cares :) (also a Witcher goes through many physical changes so it fits lore-wise also)

My only gripes with that choice is that Ciri is a leap more powerful than Geralt, and has the training of a Witcher, so it feels a bit DBZ-esque of the ever more powerful enemy/hero. But, otherwise, Ciri is the natural continuation of the game series.
- My biggest gripe is also the power level. Witcher 3 already sets her potential way above Geralt which means for Witcher 4 they most likely will nerf her powers to not make her a, living god. Personally I would've preferred if they hadn't used Ciri in the first place because it's bound to create retcons.
  Or if they wanted to make a story about Ciri they should've focused on who she is (someone with elder blood) not on who she isn't (an actual Witcher). She doesn't need Witcher powers, her innate powers are already way stronger than what a Witcher gets.

Must be the same kind of person that cares what a man's canthal tilt is.

I wish she had sharper rather than rounder features to resemble her model in W3 closer, but I don't see anything wrong with her new look, and anyone who does should probably touch grass.

Also, I'm an inveterate enemy of the braid

I agree with everything you've said, but with the comment that the trailer as a whole had uncanny valley vibes to me. I think that the red pill crowd don't know how to properly voice their complaints. They see the model look different like you said and they like it less. Maybe they see the same sort of general weirdness in the characters like I do. Then they chalk it up to making characters less perfectly beautiful because they're going woke lol.

Witcher 4 comments are bad, but Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet is getting a lot worse heat. You would think that a new IP by renowned devs who have not made a single bad game would be hype.

They're exceptionally upset that the rough-and-tumble female bounty hunter lead character of the 80's cassette-retro-futurism sci-fi action game isn't some generic-looking 80's supermodel type, instead of someone who you'd actually expect to be a space-bounty hunter. I have no doubt Naughty Dog has made another banger game, but sexist coomers are gonna be sexist coomers, and there's not a whole lot you can do for them.
- Yeah, like when was there ever a heroine in 80s action sci fi that was a no-nonsense rough & tumble ass-kicking type? I can't think of a single one, let alone multiple iconic characters that headlined my favourite movies from the era.
Man, I just watched the trailer and that was a trip. I think they nailed the character: just the right amount of cynicism and hard edges without dipping too far into quippy one-liners.

It looked like just weird angles and lighting to me.

the trailer did feel a bit off in general, what really gets to me is how.. badly? ciri fights, she just throws up her sword over and over again which makes her look like a panicked amateur, when she's supposed to have trained with a sword since childhood!

So what is the point they are trying to make in that video?

Is it just listing facial changes since Witcher 3? Or is it whining because the girl became less fappable in their opinion and claim it is woke?

Well you see, she isn’t wearing bikini armor and flirtatiously interacting with everyone in the trailer, so it is woke. Wokedy woke woke.

I'm pretty sure those aren't real word.

I know of orbicularis oris. It's your "ring muscle" that enables you to move your lips, basically, and make shapes with it

I'm soooo excited. Ciris whole story arc in the prior games. Now seeing her as an older adult.

I know this post is about the toxicity of people. But I'm excited, that's all.

Determining if games are any good is getting really tiring because it involves wading through an insufferable number of manchildren whining about stupid things.

Essentially you need to find some influencers you agree with. That are willing to call out a game for being shit, too.
Wait for game to be out, wait for your favourite YouTuber to review it. Read Steam reviews that aren't oneliners or religious rants
Just don't preorder. You know what I told my friends several years ago?
"Cyberpunk 2077 is the first game I'm actually considering preordering because it looks so awesome"
I didn't. And I'm glad I didn't. I still enjoyed the game a lot, just later, after it had been patched to hell and back.
- It's worth noting as well, you don't even need to agree with the reviewer, you just need to get to know their tastes. If they always negatively review games you like, then a negative review from them is basically an endorsememt.

I don’t want to sound like a neck beard but I would prefer her character model to look like her w3 one with just age applied. This one looks like someone doing cosplay and they also have Botox. It was cool trailer … excited about Ciri … just hope they improve her model.

you'd sound a lot less like a neck beard if you just didn't comment on her looks?
- I want her to look like the same character who was in w3. It seems off to me.
I was with you until you said Botox lmao
- Haha well sorcery then…Her skin is so smooth and filled in. I was expecting lines from aging. Much like Geralt looked weather worn… he didn’t have silky smooth skin.

enlraged

I finally decided to watch the trailer. Here's what really bothers me:

CDPR give us our first glimpse into the world of The Witcher 4 as Ciri takes on a fearsome monster called the Bauk in this trailer pre-rendered in a custom build of Unreal Engine 5.

I know it's just the first trailer, but this tells me nothing about what the game will look like, or run like. UE5 is notoriously hard to optimize properly for, and this is CDPR's first game using it. I'm already pretty sure my 3060Ti won't run it, but I'm sorta worried that we're talking 5090Ti if I want to run it on my 1440p 120Hz screen, which isn't even a high resolution or refresh rate nowadays.

I also don't like that they replaced the voice actor, but then I think this is supposed to be a more mature Ciri, whereas Witcher 3 Ciri was still pretty young. So it makes sense.

this tells me nothing about what the game will look like, or run like
I mean... This was the first trailer to stir up a bit of excitement for a game that has only just entered full-scale development. They probably don't even yet know themselves what it will look like and how it will run on what hardware. Expecting that kind of info at this point is unrealistic
- Fair enough, I just hope that future trailers will be actually rendered real time. Scripted sure, but at least real time.
  I love that they moved to an engine that they can find competent devs and artists for rather than having to train everyone in-house, but UE5 in particular seems to have so many issues. I think it might just be too much engine for some projects.
Yeah games using UE are always worth waiting a bit on, so many of them run poorly, either low fps or stutters and other weird issues.
They will have to make sure it runs on current-gen consoles, so it will probably also run alright on mid-range PCs.

I think the trailer looks fine. But remember that 1) The original writing team is long gone and 2) CDPR has made it very clear that they're pursuing a DEI agenda, rather than good writing. I still hope we'll get something good.

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