Exclusive: Trump may cancel US Postal Service electric mail truck contract, sources say
Exclusive: Trump may cancel US Postal Service electric mail truck contract, sources say
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Postal service plans to spend billions on EV chargers and roughly 66,000 new trucks Contract cancellation likely part of sweeping executive order on EVsTrump transition weighs plan to cancel USPS contracts to build large EV fleet
Dec 6 (Reuters) - Donald Trump's transition team is considering canceling the U.S. Postal Service's contracts to electrify its delivery fleet, as part of a broader suite of executive orders targeting electric vehicles, according to three sources familiar with the plans.
The move, which could be unveiled in the early days of Trump’s administration that begins on Jan. 20, is in line with Trump's campaign promises to roll back President Joe Biden’s efforts to decarbonize U.S. transportation to fight climate change – an agenda Trump has said is unnecessary and potentially damaging to the economy.
Reuters has previously reported that Trump is planning to kill a $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicle purchases, and plans to roll back Biden's stricter fuel-efficiency standards.
The sources told Reuters that Trump’s transition team is now reviewing how it can unwind the postal service's multibillion-dollar contracts, including with Oshkosh (OSK.N), and Ford (F.N) for tens of thousands of battery-driven delivery trucks and charging stations.
Oshkosh shares fell by roughly 5% to 105.65 per share after the Reuters report.
Hey look! Let's just raise a huge middle finger to what's left of our ecosystems.
How did it go? Yes, humanity was destroyed, but for one moment we maximized profits!
At this point, it's not really about maximizing profits, it's about trying to undo every change Biden made
Trump's is Putin's puppet. He's set to destroy whatever he can.
Trump doesn't care. He's going to be dead in a few years and as far as he's concerned, the entire universe could instantly implode afterward.
In fact, he probably thinks the universe ends when his finite energy battery that keeps his fat ass from exercising gives out.
Those trucks get like six miles to the gallon, they're a massive liability on American finances. If the average price of gas changes by a cent that's something like nearly a million dollars difference. This isn't maximizing profit, this is just being petty to own the libs.
In case anyone wants to do math, it's actual MPG is a 17 combination. In real world settings it gets 8 - 10 MPG. From recent hearing EV USPS truck costs 20k more than ICE variant. The new Oshkosh vehicle uses 1.5kWh supposedly.
If anyone was curious the new replacement ICE variant should get 8.5 to 10.5 MPG.
Grumman absolutely knocked it out of the park with that LLV design for it being 4 decades ago.
There it is!
But why not phase out with capital expense of new electric vehicles as they depreciate? I'm pro environment to the point of spending years running to work, also a postal worker, and DeJoy is basically running shit into the ground by blowing cash on capital equipment like he has some sort of magic credit card.
This also really fucks with enterprise value and makes the USPS more 'juicy' in regard to being privatized. Sitting on oodles of new shiny gear with an atrocious balance sheet, piggy bank primed to be smashed to pieces.
But environmentally speaking, we just got a fuckload of Metris and scrapping all that shit for the sake of buying new shit is peak consumerism. Cram the landfills
Edit: I cannot stress that last bit enough, in the past couple year we already revamped our fleet as drastically as the EV contract would be. So fucking stupid. Maybe give it 10 years? Mail volume is so high we had to but it's good servicable stuff, may as well use it and let it all depreciate rather than buy EV for the sake of the environment and scrap a bunch of new vans at the detriment to the environment and the USPS' solvency
I think you're under some misconceptions about how this has happened. The old trucks are completely non-viable. Way past their expected lifespan. They all need to go. If there was a time to phase out the old trucks, it was about 20 years ago.
The new trucks come in EV and gas flavors. The EV version only has a 70 mile range, but that's plenty for many city/suburban routes. So they're putting them in where they make sense and everything else gets the gas version. Over time, a longer range EV version could take over the vast majority of routes, if not all of them.
More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
Killing the tax credit drives up gas prices.
It's quite remarkable how economically m ignorant a large section of America is. Supply and demand is the easiest model to understand and yet these voters have been positioned to work against their own best interest at a basic economic level.
And this is only one a hundreds of examples. Fascinating time to be alive.
More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
I know, it's almost as though the multinational oil corporations and their shareholders who backed all three of Trump's campaigns want higher oil and gas prices for some reason... what could that be?
Better get my passive aggressive stickers ready
Passiveaggressive. FTFYOne of the main problems of the Dems is playing nice, and expecting rules to be followed.
It's time to fight using their weapons.
Dumb take.
Everybody knows the real cause of high gas prices is Joe Biden. Haven't you seen the stickers on the pumps? It says it right there..."I did that", with a picture of Biden's face.
Screw it, at least the prices will be high come next election (if we have one)
That may be true, but I saw a hot chick and she turned out to have a dick. Fascism/Hate 2024
Gas prices are artificially created by OPEC... Although considering Trump is buddies with Russia and others, I could see him wanting an excuse to increase demand so they can sell more.
The existing fleet is past aging out, they are often held together with patch welds and duct tape in my area. Is the plan ride it until the wheels literally fall off, with no replacements in pipeline?
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
"Failure is the goal" needs to be the subtitle of every news story for the foreseeable future.
Yeah but even if that's the play - could private business even fill the gap? USPS stretches the final miles deep into places not profitable to deliver to. Businesses, doing business stuff, use it to economically have their products available to the rural communities that voted these policies in.. it's all so confusing.
Is mailing a letter automated space communism? Sheesh.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can
make money on itfurther exploit the working class. Failure is the goal.Although you're right, I like to call out what it will do to everyone so it's more explicit and will hopefully click in people's minds.
Why is that a question? How else do you plan to privatize one of the most ubiquitous federal services?
The plan is to make it so ineffective it can justifiably be privatized entirely and their friends make millions by jacking up rates on a product that by design and necessity has no direct competitors.
It's like having an enemy agent in the big chair leads to terrible decisions for basic needs...
No, they will just redirect to gas. They are buying something either way, the money has already been committed. Right now it's 50/50 ev and gas plan, while slowing increasing the EV percentage as they roll out the chargers.
Now it sounds like they want to scrap it all, which is unfortunate considering chargers are in process of being built.
Crippling the USPS with additional fuel costs and shitty low mileage vehicles will work out great I'm sure.
As designed so they can privatize.
Not just that. They're going to cripple these services so bad that they don't even function and then blame their ineptitude on this sick remnant of the Democratic past, while they point at the flaws they created as justification.
You won't have a choice. You don't, actually.
Easier to control mail in ballots if it's privatized.
Don't worry, Elon Musk has a much better idea for a postal vehicle. All he needs is 10 years and 1 trillion dollars and he'll be ready with the prototype.
And then the prototype will be just the regular robotaxi where he stuffed a bunch of letters on the passender seat. Car is meant go from house to house and then honk untill people come down and pick up their stuff from the seat. Unfortunately, the vehicle only works in movie studios with a pre-programmed route. Those of you not living in a movie studio will have to pick up their stuff at the next Tesla dealer for a small fee of $10.
And his dipshit USPS head is still there waiting for his time to shine.
Well if you watched the recent hearing the Republicans were reaming him out because he apparently hasn't slashed expensives/services enough and it's still in the red. So he might be getting replaced soon with someone worse.
Reuters has previously reported that Trump is planning to kill a $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicle purchases
Noooo! My friends just bought EVs and they're gonna be so smug if I don't get the credit!
Clearly the way to bring down the price of EVs must be to tariff the import ones and get rid of tax credits on all of them...right? Right?
You catch more flies with vinegar.
Whatever oil wants, oil gets.
After paying Trump millions, yeah
Exclusive: Trump does stupid shit. more at 11.
usps should go on strike if this happens
Keep in mind, this is a new Gilded Age. Trump would most certainly call in the Pinkertons for some good ol' fashioned strike breaking.
My money is on USPS employees, they are a different breed. Also a significant number of them are veterans.
Not an option for most, I'd wager. Federal employees are free to unionize, however it is a felony crime for a federal employee to strike against the government. Furthermore, it's a felony to even assert that this is right you have, or to join an organization which asserts that right. The government's HR department, the Office of Personnel Management, is able to bar any person who violates these provisions from federal employment for life.
Laws more or less to this effect have been on the books since the 40s and 50s, but the issue came to a head in the early 80s when thousands of air traffic controllers went on strike against the FAA after contract negotiations fell through. Reagan ordered the controllers back to work, and, when they refused, summarily fired them. Where they couldn't be replaced be scabs, he activated the military to fill in, citing national security. According to the last article I read, of the 13,000 striking employees, 11,000 were fired and barred from future employment (though I think Clinton rolled some of that back in the 90s).
Considering it's clear that the GOP benefits from government dysfunction, and does everything they can to erode public faith in institutions, striking postal workers would be a gift served on a silver platter for them. Trump will giddily fire every last one of the strikers, be praised for being a big strong man who doesn't negotiate with plebs, and the postal service will be de facto shutter, even if it still exists in as diminished a form as they can get away with while still satisfying whatever requirements there are to have such an institution.
Obviously striking always carries risk, but asking someone to almost certainly throw away their livelihoods for a course of action that will likely only accelerate Trump et al.'s goals is unreasonable.
I remember reading Dante's Inferno for the first time. I'm glad to be reminded of that.
I can't say watching red wisconsin counties get fucked hard by Trump doing the thing everyone expected him to do isn't satisfying
What's the connection here to Wisconsin directly?
This is the corporation that got one of the two main contracts to create the electric mail carriers
I really don't understand why money is so much more important to these people than not fucking over the environment.
But I guess you don't get stinking rich by thinking about anything other than money. The concept of a wider world must really be foreign to these cunts.
Maybe a few more assassins are in order.
Controlled hvac systems wherever they go, travel to anywhere on the planet to golf at your desired temperature.
"May."
I kind of wish someone was keeping track of speculative “news articles” like this and holding them accountable when they don’t come to fruition. There should be some reputational cost for making things up and spreading rumors.
USPS employees love it.
I'm surprised he isn't just cancelling the usps. Not sure I would miss the junk mail. And maybe it would force the garbage company to start sending bills and things over email. You know, like the notice that our pick up was moving. That would have been nice. Or actually... anthems reason for denial of a perscription that they rufused to give me electronically or tell me. Just have to wait for the mail.
the last piece of mail donvict opened himself was probably an allowance check sent by daddy to him while he was busy at upenn being the big stupid on campus.