Probably the easiest boycott you could do, let's do it Lemmy!

lemmy.ml users reaction:

A scene from Rick and Morty saying "Okay then, that was always allowe!"

"We should defederate from everything which does not agree with my .world view and create a giant centralized echo chamber"!

Why the fuck does every .world user suddenly want Lemmy to be Reddit?

Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it's easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.

I don't think the meme makes sense. The ml users don't seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they'd like.

Why would you want to create an echo chamber? I genuinely don't get it, it's the internet, if you encounter an opinion you disagree with, literally just close the tab and it's gone

Here's a list of a few .ml communities and potential replacements:

ask lemmy - !asklemmy@lemm.ee !asklemmy@sh.itjust.works
linux - !linuxquestions@lemmy.zip !linux@linux.community !linux@programming.dev
memes* - !memes@sopuli.xyz !memes@slrpnk.net !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone !memes@midwest.social
programmer humor - !programmer_humor@programming.dev
world news - !news@beehaw.org !globalnews@lemmy.zip
technology - !technology@sh.itjust.works
funny - !funny@sh.itjust.works
ukraine - !ukraine@sopuli.xyz

Side note the main issue with .ml is transparency. It's fine if the admins of an instance implement whatever rules they want in their instance; however, once they start enforcing hidden rules disguised as violations of the listed rules, they're being liars and treating the users as stupid things to be herded, not as human beings.

EDIT: as people noticed I'm not including .world comms to not encourage even further concentration of activity into the largest instance. Decentralisation is important. Also I'm adding stuff that you guys suggest.

* for specialised memes, as the category is rather large:

Another day of .world reddit migrants thinking de-federating or boycotting .ml will change literally anything.

I criticized the CCP on lemmy.ml and got called racist and got banned lmao

Edit: thank you for the link, Lazycog@sopuli.xyz!

https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2602275

I stand by every single comment that's been removed from this platform. Some of them were removed for good reason, one of them was a brain fart that I shouldn't have posted in the first place, but I'm happy to have y'all investigate my moderation history

ETA: If you read this, and then replied to a comment that's already been removed from a community I'm banned from, you're an idiot. I literally can't interact with you. Why not reply to this comment?

As long as it's not only lemmy.world communities you start growing. Centralization won't lead to good outcomes anywhere.

your "boycott" was already happening naturally because (ayk) lemmy.ml's mods are insufferable

I'm out of the loop, what's going on?

I like the idea of growing non-ml community, however, I wish larger instances do not block ML. Otherwise, they would just move to lemmy.ee or lemmy.one, just like how they moved from hexbear and grad to ml.

It is great tankies got their own place where they can be happy, but I really don't want to interact with them. I am emotional about issues they engage in, and emotional me is usually not the nicest version of myself.

Social media is one of the few ways I can relax for couple hours per week outside of my job, and I really don't want my social media experience to go full investigative journalism.

Posting this to lemmy.world, lol

ml makes sense on the fediverse. That's kind of the whole point. Same with Linux.

Can someone inform me about what's wrong with lemmy.ml?

https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit

I feel like I'm missing something important here as a simple fediverse user. I don't really care about the politics, I just made an account during the first large Reddit exodus and choose an instance I thought would persist. I also made a second account on kbin.social, but it looks pretty dead as a project.

I never noticed anything described in this thread, but I'm subbed to many communities across the fediverse...

posted on *.world

The irony of a community promoting socialism while also instabanning anyone for the slightest wiff of criticism is just chef's kiss peak representation of why their system is doomed.

If you can't withstand the slightest nudge of criticism how are you even going to attempt to provide a governance system based on any kind of economic directive? If Marx could see what you guys have become he'd personally wipe his ass with your lame ml instance

Join me

I see the liberals who got upset at bluesky being a "tankie echo chamber" are right at home on lemmy.world where they year for nothing but a Reddit 2.0 where 90% of the content is fed through a handful of professional content astroturfers or bot accounts linked to three-letter agencies.

I only follow some .ml communities for the only thing that instance is good for: Memes making fun of neoliberals

grabs some popcorn

honestly, I eventually got fed up enough and instance blocked .ml on my account a couple weeks ago, and Ive barely noticed a difference. It was the bulk of lemmy right after it started to get some migration from Reddit, but it isnt nearly as essential these days already

We should leave the m federated on most instances as a honeypot for them. This way they don’t join other instances.

It’s like when you give a kid a video game controller without batteries.

yes, please continue this trend isolating yourselves from the fediverse

lemmy.world is the most toxic instance and every insanely bloodthirsty, racist, misogynistic, or otherwise vile take seems to come from your lot

How I interact with lemmy.ml:

If I see a post I want to comment on, I comment on it. I don't give a fuck what instance it's on.
If I want to post, I select the relevant community with the most subscribers. I don't give a fuck what instance it's on.
If I can't comment or post there, because I was banned for criticizing a dictatorship, I select the next biggest community.

(This happens about 50% of the time, cause I'm now banned on most .ml communities, simply for posting common sense opinions.)

Yeah do this,
So after we can finally talk about mods on LW, being pro Israel and moderating comments against IDF.

Oh ? That will not happen ? 😱

On the upside, every time a .world community has these anti-federation wreckers cry and scream because they got banned for some repugnant views (but by design of federation they can just join a new site) I just block the whole community.

Might not be defederation but you're only turning these Comms into lame Reddit discourse farms that does the opposite of your evil plan.

You folks are blowing this way out of proportion.

my instance has been defederated from .ml for ages and i can personally confirm fedi is still fun here :) take that as you will

The beauty of the fediverse is that you can make it how you want. You can self select into a instance that best reflects your individual values. You can block what you want. You can see publicly what the instance and moderators are doing.

Why would anyone be mad about that?

I block everything from .ml because I rather not be part of Russian or China-nese psyops.

We need to grow the !linuxphones@lemmy.ca alternative more!

Can't? I already personally blocked them months ago.

Now what's the juicy backstory to this drama?

I wish I could. But as a mod, it very much helps to leave all people and instances/communities unblocked.

As a lemmy.ml account holder... I'm a bit out of the loop. I'm not tied to any single instance and can move to a new one (any recommendations?), but what does ml do that's bad? Honest question, promise, I don't follow this stuff very much

.ml and .world are a classic war in lemmy

The way I see it if they get defederated a lot of the people will migrate away from it and it won't be "too big to fail" anymore

Banned and reported troll /s

I did create a luanti (formally Minetest) community

!luanti@lemmy.zip

Im already blocked on many of their subs. so I'm boycotting and I don't have a choice

Daily lemmy.world whingefest

Is this why people keep making posts saying "Lemmy doesn't have enough content"? Are those people blocking instances and acting pikachu?

Free speechers on .world can't handle interacting with any dissenting opinions to the left of the Bush Administration.

I like being able to block instances, without my instance doing it for me, lemm.ee is pretty good about that, like yeah, I blocked lemmygrad and hexbears but still have the option to see their stuff without switching accounts

Oh no! Anything but the briar patch! 😂

Oh no! Anyway...

ITT: Excuse me. Are you the Judean People's Front?

F*** off! We're the People's Front of Judea

This whole thread in a nutshell:

https://media.tenor.com/2TkIn9nxf10AAAAd/rick-and-morty-jerry-smith.gif

40+ reports in a single comment section... Sorry, but I'm going to lock this.

I blocked .ml and there was a sharp decrease of content.

Seeing that, I was forced to walk back and use reedit more. At least there you won't find people arguing pro-genocide in a post about Linux Kernel.

Something about .ml and MLs in general is that they really just aren't that large a group. If we want larger communities, Reddit is still much bigger than Lemmy. If we want a flawed ally in politics, progressive liberals outnumber Leninists and are far less likely to deliberately betray us. (That's why MLs always equate Liberalism with fascism; if people can ally with Liberals MLs have basically nothing they can bring to a coalition, and so they can't seize power.)

I boycotted them months back. I came to lemmy to get away from reddit mods.

Sure you can block them. It's really easy

Nah we're fine

Hello. Can I please make my internet experience both echoier and chamberier than it already is because it makes me sad when I encounter someone online who has different thoughts to me.

If anyone wants to go further and actually block the instance, it's really quite difficult to impossible from base Lemmy but it can be accomplished, as described further in this post.

Regardless of the criticism specifics, a visible mod/admin is a bad mod/admin. True leadership follows; the steering, imperceptible. The job is that of a janitor. People can appreciate a janitor. When a janitor tries to play president, hate follows.

I haven't seen the specifics in this instance. I saw someone posting partial private messages in screen shots months ago without full context and making drama. I have not seen inexcusable behavior from .ml or a reason I feel motivated to stop posting there.

Why are we shitting on .ml instances? Sure there's a few idiots who use them but they're the vocal minority.