‘Get Somebody Else to Do It’: Trump Resistance Encounters Fatigue
‘Get Somebody Else to Do It’: Trump Resistance Encounters Fatigue
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‘Get Somebody Else to Do It’: Trump Resistance Encounters Fatigue
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Look, if I put a bunch of effort into getting someone away from a toxic partner, and then they go right back to that partner, I'm not gonna waste my energy doing it all over again. At this point whatever happens to us is entirely our fault.
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If only he'd keep the abuse internal to MAGA.
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The 2016 to 2021 leftist protest movements were effective not because they worked on Trump, but because they worked on Democratic law makers to show they had support for visibly resisting Trumps policies. As a result of resistance from the minority/ opposition party, along with internal incompetencies, Trump got basically almost nothing in that first term.
Since then the opposition party has shown that they did not value or prioritize litterally anything the protest movements were focusing on, instead prioritizing corporate donor priorities and a diet Republican approach to change. The core of the Democratic party were abandoned by Democrats in the period of 2020 to 2024.
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Three Supreme Court justices. Massive tax cuts for the rich and corporations. I'd say he got plenty done, though luckily not everything for the reasons you point out (and others). Next four years are going to be rough.
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This would be a compelling argument if the Biden administration hadn't been the most economically progressive since LBJ.
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Yup, and this is why Democrats lose. They are allergic to actually supporting the party's real accomplishments and prefer to throw stones and circle the firing squad. Democrats need to learn how to play the game. There is too much of this fart sniffing on the left these days.
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The problem is that he is the most progressive and did so little that people didn’t notice anything at all.
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My gut says "that's probably true, but that doesn't mean much." Let me pick it apart.
- LBJ attempted his War on Poverty and Great Society, and while it didn't go as far as he wanted, he still got some good stuff out the door. Food stamps, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage, just to name a few. No contest compared to everybody that came later.
- Nixon was a Republican, and I'll skip all of them because by this point in history they would never be as economically progressive as Biden.
- Ford was a Republican.
- Carter ran on being socially liberal and economically conservative. Outside of minor policy like the Community Reinvestment Act, there's no help there, obviously.
- Reagan was a Republican.
- Clinton ran on the Third Way, which was sort of what Carter did but even more disastrous. Notable policy included gutting welfare and widespread deregulation.
- W was a Republican.
- Obama got ACA passed and used an obviously Keynesian approach to economic recovery with the recession he was given, pulling away from Clinton's conservative Third Way.
- Trump was a Republican.
- Biden did a similar Keynesian approach to economics.
I would assume your statement hinges largely on the "biggest infrastructure bill" type rhetoric, because he didn't do anything new, he just continued to fund things that the government needs to fund in order for the country to operate. He sure spent a lot, but whether that's the metric we should be using for most progressive is up for debate.
Personally, I'd say Obama was more progressive because he actually did something substantial and new with the ACA, but it doesn't put him in another tier above Biden. Of course, neither comes remotely close to LBJ.
What that statement really shows is how far the government has fallen from even attempting to provide value for people.
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Oh God that was a good laugh. Do another joke!
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The protests this month also drew out younger people who were not around for past marches. Kira Miller, a 19-year-old student at the University of Richmond who attended a protest in Washington, said she believed that failures in the education system cause young voters to be uninformed, and therefore apolitical or apathetic; marches can help bridge that gap. “There is power in the visual impact of protests,” she said, “and in the attention that they bring to issues.”
She's got a point.
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they weren't uninformed. they knew exactly what they were voting for.
they were indoctrinated due to a lack of education that would otherwise protect them against manipulation.
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Maga is a cult, they're basically unreachable and we know that. Apathy and despair is the real enemy here. If "Didn't Vote" was a candidate, they would have won. By a landslide.
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Actually, I'd argue that due to isolation from mainstream news sources, quite a lot of them are uninformed. Was their specific tiktok account putting the info into their feeds? If not, you can get uninformed.
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Yeah, uh, "peaceful protests" are what the political machine wants. Protests can be ignored. They're not going to give a fuck until you start burning cop cars. So no shit people are tired of protesting. I bet they're finally starting to understand the myth of peaceful protests.
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And with more serious protests, the media just turns it around to the point that half of America thinks St Louis burned to the ground. It's so exhausting.
It looks like revolution is the only way but I'm so fucking tired. I'm getting old too.
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article is paywalled with no workaround as far as know
but as someone involved in grassroots since Obama's first term definitely say the fatigue is real and the march of progress has ground to a silent eerie lurching halt
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I am partial to archive.is for these types of articles: link.
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'fatigue' is definitely at least partly why we are where we are.
donvict's been 'involved' one way or another since then, too. and we've had to try to vote him into a sand trap the last three cycles.
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At least he's never far from a sand trap, heyoo.
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I swear somebody said something about the "language of the unheard."
"IKEA furniture purchases are the language of the unheard"?
"Politely worded letters are the language of the unheard"?
"Petitions are the language of the unheard"?
Ah, it'll come to me.
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This is the long game now. Pace yourself. Protect yourself. Even something as small as looking the other way in the right moment is resistance.
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Hell yeah. If you see someone steal something, no you didn't.
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His win was absolute and final. I'm not sure what anyone expects to accomplish at this point. The good guys lost as badly as they could lose.
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His win was absolute and final.
absolute garbage.
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Sure.
The "good" guys. Because "less evil," as proven, doesn't get people to the polls.
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Fuck you Bozos.
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No shit. The law doesn't even sway the guy. What's he going to care about protests and petitions for?
This reminds me of a video I recently watched about how to resist the Trump presidency. Since, he doesn't seem to be swayed by acts of protest like this.
https://youtu.be/YLBM2SEL6Rc
Well, being president is kind of a situation where you get as much power as people allow. Everyone wants to be an edgy doomer in the comments, but it helps no one.
I agree. But at the same time, there are people that are able to allow it a lot more than others.
He is swayed by loads of bad press. The best shot we have is for the press to put tons of negative attention on the most egregious elements of his administration. Unfortunately, most media is now owned by billionaires who want to make nice with Trump.
he doesn't like it when people aren't lavishing him with praise, hence the person who follows him with printouts. https://futurism.com/the-byte/trump-aide-wireless-printer-good-news
hopefully the next 4 years of consequences for his wretched actions will depress him, but it'd be awfully nicer if he just walked into a jet intake...
I don't know if that's true anymore.
We'll see.