Claims in 'Duty To Warn' Letter to Harris Alleging Compromised Election Are Misleading

This is the difference. Both the right and the left have their cranks, but the ones on the left never get mainstream acceptance. While on the right, they make the crank president.

I’ve been peaking back on Reddit to a few sub reddits, r/somethingiswrong2024 is the main one. There’s r/verify2024 and r/houstonwade as well that have some interesting ideas and points brought up about all this. They simply dismissed this snopes report, stating snopes had lost credibility over the past years but not sure how true that is. I don’t know if I was just getting a contact high from the copium over there, I have hope still, I want to believe there is something in the works but ultimately without concrete, indisputable, outright blatant cheating thoroughly documented, there’s not chance of overturning the election. Especially without stirring up the magats nest and causing civil unrest. So do we just stick it out for the next two years and hope we can freely vote and try to gain some sanity back into this country?

Thank you! I just needed someone to check that dudes math, very happy they did.

So we upgraded from blaming minority voters to literally Trump's own 2020 election mouthpiece lmao.

Thanks for this! The bullet ballot thing seemed odd but without any real access to information about actual counts I didn't know what to think of it.

Good to know it's more than likely nonsense and we just really suck as a nation and did let Trump win legitimately. :/

The letter, which was spammed on Lemmy and deleted multiple times, just linked to other SubStack blogs as “evidence”. Come on, people

I wanted it to be true so bad, and sure there were some illegal actions taken (Elmo), it's not enough to overturn anything. It's okay to feel defeated, but not to ignore facts. We lost.

Side note, watch Veritasium's video on "smarter people get this question wrong", it talks about how your political position can blind your critical thinking skills and is important to remember. You can take nothing at face value, even your own thoughts.

What the fuck is this stroke of a title?

People need to accept who we are, collectively, as a country. We chose this shit. It’ll be a wild ride.

Spoonamore doesn't have shit and has admitted as much when pressed. The guy basically contests results that he does not like. He also does not know what a bullet ballot is. That term deals with ranked choice elections where someone only picks top candidates. The term he is looking for is undervoting.

I get it. When you are shown the enthusiasm at Harris' rallies and how absolutely batshit Trump is, it's pretty easy to conclude that the election must have been tampered with. But there is no evidence that it was directly tampered with. Republicans do a lot of shit to mess with votes but that is all known shit like making voting more difficult in certain areas, gerrymandering, voter roll purges, etc. They are not directly tampering with the presidential election on a mass scale nor are they competent enough to.

North Carolina

Spoonamore alleged that the purported hacking and fraud in North Carolina proved to be "the most extreme" and that "the public results indicate over 350,000 voters cast a ballot for Trump and no other race." However, this is false.

According to the North Carolina State Board of Elections' website, as of Nov. 21, 5,722,556 voters cast ballots. Of those, 5,699,152 ballots displayed votes in the race for president. The website also reported that 5,592,243 ballots bore votes for the state's governor's race. A comparison of the numbers for total votes and the gubernatorial race would reveal the maximum number of possible "bullet vote" ballots for all presidential candidates. The difference between the two numbers is 130,313 votes — a count nowhere near the 350,000 votes stated by Spoonamore. Trump received 183,048 more of North Carolinian's votes than Harris.

Welp.

I feel like the folks who felt super justified in not voting are now obsessive on this. but. but. other people were supposed to get us the democrat against our will....

"Bullet votes" completely jibe with the narrative that a small but significant percentage of Trump voters are willfully low-information, so un-invested in the democratic process that they can't be bothered to take the time even to vote a straight party ticket, and think that voting for a single strong-man will fix all their problems. The non-electoral factors behind all this are deeply troubling, and many of them are criminal, but for the actual voting there's no need to invent a conspiracy when simple shittiness will do.

The bullet ballot nonsense was started by a Republican kook that's made fake election claims about every election going all the way back to 2008.

Definitely something to ignore.

Yeah, we're the people that always love to talk about evidence. So, let's make sure we're applying that principle evenly and demanding and looking at evidence for claims we like the sound and feeling of.

It seems people just aren't going to accept elections any more. Yeah trump was the most blatant and harmful but the democrats were pushing russiagate until it hit its dead end and now this.

Starting to think democracy may not be able to survive the internet