Baby red panda dies due to 'stress caused by fireworks,' renewing calls to ban their public sale

Red panda infants are pretty fragile and often don’t survive in captivity. I would assume the mom passed away from complications due to birthing, but it could be anything.

Has the mother also died from early Fireworks? Since when do fireworks cause vomiting...

Also, why ban something when you can just have area bans?

instead of investigating the conditions

Yea they should have sent some vet experts to investigate. Oh wait...

"Veterinary experts at the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland announced on Wednesday that a 3-month-old panda named Roxie died "due to stress caused by fireworks being let off across the city centre."

Ofcourse they could always just be there to burry evidence to further their holy crusade against fireworks!

Yeah this sounds REAL off.

I had a whole thing earlier but was mistaken, the baby was 3 months old not a newborn. Either way, I still don't doubt that fireworks could easily stress out a very young animal and be the tipping point of their health.

I'm not sure what could motivate them to make a grand conspiracy against fireworks, rather than the more likely result of them being exhausted and frustrated caretakers who, like any pet owner, probably spent that evening trying to calm the panda down only to watch it panic until it died. Stress vomiting isn't really rare for animals on the 4th of July. It's just the extreme end of stress.

Whether or not it was the direct cause in this case, fireworks cause a lot of animals a lot of stress and deaths do come from it.

I don't see why anyone needs to be able to buy explosives to use at home, firework shows should be organised in set locations and should use low noise fireworks as much as possible.

Maybe they should have called some vet experts to investigate. Oh wait that is exactly what they did but I am sure people on the internets know more about animals. Not a big fan of zoos but people who armchair are magnitudes worse.

You're correct that people should apply critical thought, and using a cute baby animal for this message is manipulative and people should be aware of that, but it doesn't make the message any less important. There are many reasons to ban them. They look somewhat pretty, but you can go to a show done by professionals that'll be more impressive.

Fireworks not only cause stress for animals, but also humans. (A pet peeve of mine is memorial day/Veterans day fireworks shows. In what world is throwing explosives around good for former soldiers?) They are a not insignificant cause of fires. They're just generally harmful and do very little good. We don't need them.

If spreading a manipulative article works to change people's minds towards something better, it's probably worth it. You can be sure other people are doing it against good.

I'm a veteran and used to get worked up by them. It took a few years but I mostly got over it because they were predictable, the city put out notices as well as the local baseball team. And then they were legalized for a specific time frame for everybody. Any random asshole could buy and shoot off fireworks during a 3 day window.

Cool, I can hang with that. But then they shoot them off randomly for the 2 weeks surrounding the weekend that they're allowed. That I can't hang with. Especially during the day. Why the fuck are you shooting them off during the day anyways?!? You can't see it! The thing that pisses me off the most? The motherfuckers shooting shit off at random times and days? Those assholes would happily suck my dick if I told them I'm a veteran and told them to do so. But then they'd fire off more fireworks to celebrate doing so.

they can't eat all of them before the best before date

Ah, the ol' pronoun switcheroo

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Sale of Fireworks

Here’s Another thought too. Zoos are notorious for animal cruelty issues. How about not have animals locked up cruelly for our entertainment.

Not even just that. I can't speak for Edinburgh, but in the area I live in in Glasgow we've had random fireworks go off during the day for weeks leading up to Guy Fawkes. One big explosion every now and then. One day, still bright out, I was walking home and almost hit the deck because one went off so close to me out of nowhere.

After Guy Fawkes it has been less frequent, but still happens, at very odd times. You can even check news and see that it's been an issue for a while. E.g.: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j87zneq4vo

It stresses me out a bit, and I spend most of my time in my own home, with decent soundproofing. And I'm not a sensitive endangered animal.

I'm not British but have been living here over a decade and I still notice how frequently fireworks go off a week leading up to any of the big nights and for a several days after. Other places I've been in Europe very much do fireworks on new years eve only, and just a small handful of teenagers might be playing with fireworks a few days early, or playing with the leftovers the next day.

Die from cuteness overload?

Only my daughter goes to fireworks out of all my kids. I always make sure to remind her and everyone else we are with that even though they are enjoyable they distress the fuck out of wildlife and result in many deaths. Yes, they're cool AF but think if aliens came here tomorrow. It's no different than us going WTF at people firing AKs into the sky at a wedding. Only difference is the pretty colours and the method of firing. We are such a destructive species.

Me too.

Don't forget the fires and injuries!

People can get really defensive and hostile about fireworks and I've never really understood it.

I quit smoking at the beginning of this summer because it's a terrible habit that's inconsiderate to others at best(and bad for me too). So I quit. The thing is I actually liked smoking....Nicotine is something else(I used nicotine gum for anyone wondering)

So if I can accept that about smoking, why is it so hard for folks to understand that fireworks, while enjoyable, can have detrimental effects to other living creatures nearby? Some of whom might be people? It's just really strange to me.

Over here, it's pretty rare to have a car that causes a lot of noise.
A few days ago, there was a car crossing me that was quieter than my cycle's hub. And it was an ICE.
Only the "sports" cars and bikes tend to be loud and thanks to petroleum prices (and the vehicle's price itself) are much less in number.

But loudspeakers and fireworks, I cannot bear.

Air pollution? Mine is a smoker's country. People like me are lucky not to be handed the Darwin award.

Because a lot of idiots keep shooting fireworks even though the day they're supposed to be used on has not yet come or has long passed. Here, they're supposed for New Year's Eve. The first one this autumn went off sometime in September. The last one usually goes off sometime in February. What are the zookeepers supposed to do?

Or, maybe fireworks should just not be a thing.