Democrats Will Win Again Once the Economy Tanks

People have got to stop believing that "things will just work out."

No, they won't.

We aren't guaranteed anything. I'm sorry after school specials lied to you, but there is no "spirit of goodness" that permeates reality that will make all of this okay.

There are no heroes coming to save us from the fire.

We let the worst happen, and now if we ever want decency again, we are going to have to fight tooth and nail against tyrrany to make it happen. Period.

Don't waste your time listening to anyone still talking about this situation in terms of candyland simplicity and standard decorum. Not even the shitty status quo will save us, because we blew up the status quo in favor of fascism.

You think there's going to be another vote?

Wishful thinking

The problem is, the economy will rally in 2025 because of rampant deregulation. That rally will be marketed as "a booming economy", even if it's tanking by midterms. This will fuck our midterms chances. I hope I am wrong, but it seems obvious to me.

Let the Democrat party die. We need a strong Labor party. Give it a different name, if desired, but we need a party that is unrelentingly for the people, not the corporations.

Lol, this assumes that free elections still exist. That is very unlikely. This is all the same long term cycle. People don't value democracy they value tiktok, real housewives, cheap gasoline and cheap eggs. There is no reason for them to recognize what they are losing before it's too late. It is what it is

Tik tock (not the social media)voting

No, Democrats have to get a hold on the immigration issue. The only countries in this world where progressive policies actually thrive is where leftwing parties have adopted stricter immigration stances (e.g. Denmark). There's no way around it.

Edit: Sure, downvote and keep losing

Yes democrats will win again and republicans will win in the future as well. How insightful.

We'll see. Right now we are in an UNBELIEVABLY good economy and I keep hearing - even from so-called leftists and centrists - just how terrible the economy is, etc., etc.

Yes, maybe white collar jobs have softened somewhat, starting in 2022, party because some of Big Tech overhired, but seriously, look at the various indicators....it's almost all good.

Contrast this market with the dot-com bubble burst, or the 2008 fallout from banks fucking around with subprime markets. Just what is so bad about this economy?

Having elected a fascist autocrat, who already prepared the way by having the supreme court declare him above the law. Living in the country with the most militarized police, a nation with a massive capability to spy on it's own citizens, citizens who have little critical thinking capability to begin with. A society where social media creates the reality those poorly educated citizens live in, and social media is owned by oligarchs who benefit from a system where pleasing one narcissistic leader gives them power over regulators and increases their wealth more rapidly. I think people are a little optimistic to believe we can't call the next election today.

No they won't.

Trump just said that he's going to impose tariffs that are going to increase the cost of living by about $400 a month per family. Elon Musk just said he plans on imposing "hardship" on the country for a few years. And Americans voted ovewhelmingly in favor of that. The economy will tank, yes. But they'll just blame Democrats and the voters will eat it up.

Don't believe me? gestures at Tuesday.

That's assuming we have another election at all. Trump -- A man, remember, that has repeatedly said that terminating the Constitution was on the table -- now has the White House, both branches of government, a supreme court largely appointed by him, and several state governments. Moderate republicans have been successfully rooted out or marginalized. Trump could very well follow through on that promise, backdropped by the thunderous applause of the other two branches of government.

Democrats are NOT leftists, they're center right at best. They ultimately serve corporate interests and NOT the will of the people.

You will never get universal healthcare, police reform, free college, less military spending, and other leftist ideals from the Democrat party because they're not leftists. Doing these things runs counter to the interests of their corporate masters.

We have a fascist party and a conservative party, but we don't actually have a liberal party. We haven't had one since before Clinton.

Historically, fascist governments are voted in.

They're never voted out.

Whoop-de-frickin-doo.

If Project 2024 is implemented, it’ll take many consecutive terms with full control of Congress to fix the damage, assuming it can be fixed at all.

Repealing legislation is far easier than enacting it. Trump was able to repeal 112 climate regulations in his first term, during a pandemic.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html

You don't vote fascism away. This is why it was so important for the DNC to listen this time around.

No they won't because the opposition party will be crushed. This mirror's Mussolini and Hitler exactly as a classical fascist rise to power. The Democrats will be no more in four years.

..and Republicans will certainly crash the economy.

The only question left is whether or not there will be elections in 2026.

The Democrats won't win until and unless they grow a spine. This is not a situation where genteel institutionalists are needed: we need people with principles, discipline, drive and focus, who won't stop fighting until the corruption is completely rooted out.

Republican voters turn out for anyone with an R.

Reality doesn't matter to the cult.

Another way of saying “Americans have absolutely no spine”

The cope among thr Democrats post election has been embarassing. 0 reflection as to why they lost (just like in 2016), blaming every possible external factor imaginable instead of thinking "hey, maybe we sucked and need to actualy be people that people want to elect" instead of relying on the "ooooh this guy is bed, better vote for us to keep him out" strategy.

They have fucked up in a major way, in what should have been a slam-dunk election, by ignoring what people actually want and trying to be Great Value Republicans when the right has Coca-Cola Fascism readily available to them.

I hope adherence to the corporate staus quo was worth it, you absolute fucking buffoons.

They needed to remind people how they had to scramble for toilet paper when Trump was in office. That was on his watch, not Biden's.

Was Biden's economy bad? Yeah, but not "buying bootleg toilet paper" bad.

We're a seesaw government now with both parties captured by corporations. Each party will take turns as the world turns to shit.

Assuming Democrats are still around to campaign expect the same milquetoast, center-right bullshit platform of getting things "back to normal" to kill any kind of enthusiasm from their base. Don't get me wrong I voted for Harris but I'm getting really tired of voting against having evil men in power over someone I actually like. I want Bernie Sanders, not Margaret Thatcher Lite.

Elections?

If Republicans pull the house there will be no elections.

See? We never have to change! We can just wait for the presidency to fall into our laps! Now, what Republican policies can we get away with adopting?

this is so naive

that's a very bold assumption. we'd be very lucky to have another election at all.

Starting to think this might be the beginning of the incumbent disadvantage as both parties continue to put up unpopular candidates that fail to address the systemic economic issues plaguing the country.

I don’t think they will, because I don’t think they’ll be allowed to win.

We’re not having another election. Accept that right now. At most they will be Putin style “elections”.

What if the economy doesn't tank?

The President doesn't have that much control over the economy. That's a fundamental truth.

There will be awful policies but there's no guarantee of an economic collapse here.