The 4B movement, which originated in South Korea, is described as a feminist movement against the patriarchy and has been gaining steam on social media in the U
I'm afraid of this backfiring due to newly re-entrenched & emboldened misogyny refusing to do anything against those raping women for refusing to have sex with them. The incels that have been stewing in their resentment for years are gonna explode, and many will get away with it.
I definitely support women’s rights and will always believe in their unfettered right to decide their own reproductive choices. I was worried when I first read this, however. If the only people having children are the fascists and their enablers, I fear the future will be even more bleak than the present. That said, this story does seem to indicate the movement is more based around not having children with Trump voters which I find completely reasonable.
it's interesting to see the summaries become more inaccurate and incendiary as you change the "bias" from left to right.
left wing summary:
The 4B movement began in South Korea in 2019, advocating against heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, and sexual relationships with men.
Supporters aim to boycott a system they believe promotes gender inequity, seeking control over their lives.
The movement's potential expansion to the U.S. Is seen as a response to perceived threats to women's rights following an election.
right wing summary:
A group of American liberal women launched the "4B Movement" to boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
The movement is a protest against perceived threats to women's rights, including concerns about abortion rights and gender equality.
The effectiveness of the "4B Movement" in causing political change is currently uncertain, as it primarily aims to make a statement.
notice how the left wing summary properly states that this is a movement that started years ago in korea, and that it's something that women in the US are adopting due to the recent election. meanwhile, the right wing summary falsely claims that the movement was created by "American liberal women". it also claims that the movement was created to "boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump", which is just not true from the other things i've read. everything else seems to indicate that the 4B movement is about boycotting relationships with all men, not just trump supporters. but maybe i'm wrong about that last point.
God damnit the dating scene is already brutal enough. Dating apps are crap. I'm seeing a ton of friends going 4b. And the worst thing (from a dating perspective) is that they are right.
Fuck you Republicans. I hope all your sex dolls pop.
I only have this bit of unsolicited advice. Try to still form genuine connections with men who you consider to be decent human beings when possible. I'm not saying this for our sake either. This is not South Korea. This is potentially probably going to be worse. If our government goes all the way and removes women's rights in their entirety then you're going to want men in your life that you can trust.
I would say this really goes for everyone. Trump's revenge tour is going to be cruel and people need to form strong communities. This is a time where people need to find like minded individuals and band together if they want to make it through the hell that's approaching us.
Strange how this appears to be a very close carbon copy of MGTOW - don’t marry, don’t have kids, don’t cohabitate, focus on yourself over chasing skirts - and yet 4B is celebrated and MGTOW is vilified. Surprising how blatant the anti-male gender bigotry gets.
It gets even crazier when you realize that MGTOW is doing that one thing women have been begging men to do for generations - for men to leave them completely alone, to not approach them or flirt with them or bother them in any way - and yet MGTOW men are crucified for doing exactly that.
Hypocrisy, much?
I mean, 4B is a good thing. Humanity is already four times past the planet’s safe carrying capacity, so less humans are what we should be aiming for. Plus, if this 4B thing takes off and has a deep impact over decades, most women involved with it will exit out of their fertility window - from age 15 to 35 - without ever having had a child.
I’m an egalitarian. If MGTOW is a thing, why not 4B? Both should be able to exist.
What I have a problem with, however, is that any fair and equitable society cannot celebrate one and vilify the other. Otherwise, why call it “equality,” when it is anything but that?