Fediverse memes @feddit.uk Blaze (he/him) @feddit.org 2 wk. ago

Still a mystery to this day

Context

List of instances defederating from Threads, the Meta microblogging platform: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
At the moment, Threads have incomplete federation with Fediverse microblogging instances: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-86/
Another meme about Threads: https://feddit.uk/post/18194873
Threads does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Piefed)
Threads could work with the microblogging part of Mbin

The main arguments for people to defederate are

"Embrace, extend, and extinguish" strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
Defederating preventively costs nothing

LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true

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I have yet to see any threads content anyway.
Hexbear? EW.

Also they don't actually federate anything, especially not with Lemmy as federation with Lemmy is fucked up even with mastodon, misskey and basically all the other services. Kbin was the only somewhat working other service, but from what I've seen its abandoned.
I'm pretty sure LW is trying to be Threads, or at least grow into some version of it. Why is, as you said, a mystery.

https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/#org-chart
Threads.net federation status on major Lemmy instances based on blocklist info:

Awful.systems - Blocked

Beehaw.org - Blocked

Blahaj.zone - Blocked

DBZer0 - Blocked

Dubvee.org - Blocked

Eco.br - Blocked

Feddit.org - Blocked

Feddit.nl - Blocked

Feddit.uk - Blocked

Hexbear.net - Blocked

JLai.lu - Blocked

Leminal.space - Blocked

Lemmy.best - Blocked

Lemmy.ca - Blocked

Lemm.ee - Blocked

Lemmings.world - Blocked

Lemmyf.uk - Blocked

Lemmygrad.ml - Blocked

Lemy.lol - Blocked

Lemmy.ml - Blocked

LemmyNSFW.com - Blocked

Lemmy.one - Blocked

Lemmy.zip - Blocked

Literature.cafe - Blocked

Mander.xyz - Blocked N

Midwest.social - Blocked

Pawb.social - Blocked

Quokk.au - Blocked

Reddthat - Blocked

Sh.Itjust.works - Blocked

SLRPNK.net - Blocked

Szmer.info - Blocked

Tchncs.de - Blocked

Aggregatet.org - Not Found

Aussie.zone - Not Found

Feddit.cl - Not Found

Feddit.it - Not Found

Futurology.today - Not Found

Infosec.pub - Not Found

Lemmy.one - Not Found

Lemmy.pt - Not Found

Monyet.cc - Not Found

SDF.org - Not Found

Lemmy.world - Linked

Sopuli.xyz - Linked

Also, in memoriam:

Feddit.ch - Blocked
At the moment, it is more a gesture of support for our micro-blogging cousins but still...
sheesh, must be bad if even hexbear is doing it!
Is it really a mystery? Ruud explained why this has not been done, why don't you add his explanation to the context here? Don't tell me you have never heard about it.
Thread does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed)

It federates with MBin, recently Fedia defederated Threads, but before that I could follow and interact with Threads accounts, and it actually worked
We gotta avoid meta collecting data on the users of the fediverse.
We should be careful after looking at what happened with XMPP
Its possible to convince me to move to another instance if anybody can recommend one with the following:

Anti-Tankie sentiment/rules/regulation (fuck those fake communists flooding the feed with spam 24/7)

Fairly active community

General use instance, not one with a specific agenda

But otherwise I guess I'd probably just stop using lemmy altogether when threads hits World.
Dang it I was on lemmy.wtf and that one has been down for days now. Now you’re telling me this one will get flooded with “tweets”? Do I have to pack up my shit again? We’ll see how bad it will get.

Edit: it’s up again. It is too unreliable though.
A great reminder, that I will never understand how this site works. Isn't lemmy.world like the main page? That's what shows up on my Sync app.
So if Meta continues to share defederated without acknowledgement from the source, wouldn’t that just put lemmy and mastodan on top?
Wat?
The threads hate is so fucking stupid. Companies getting involved with Lemmy would be awesome, mostly because it's a replacement for discord. The whole EEE thing is FUD, open source largely solved that problem. The people with control aren't just going to give Meta they keys anyway. Some corporate involvement could help solve some real issues with making hosting easier, reducing storage needs, and increasing federation throughput.

Corporate instances would be awesome to add to my feed for the things I want to see and it would be a way to attract people to get the more niche communities. The tools already exist for the people who don't want to see that content. If for example steam community discussions became Lemmy communities that would be a huge win for the platform.

Also threads isn't even the same federation model as Lemmy anyway and it's unlikely to ever actually federate to here anyway.

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