Harris is also in a Tesla (gotta court those 'moderate republicans'), but she uses auto pilot to seem 'hip' and it drives her off a bridge that's suspended 500 feet off the ground
Right up until about a month or two ago, I was very convinced Trump was going to take it, but honestly both sides seem less interested in their own candidate and just voting against the other. There appears to be some big enthusiasm among women in places with abortion bans, so that could turn the tide, but also Harris has pissed off everyone vaguely left and essentially every Muslim.
I'm gonna call it for Trump, but I'm not confident anymore.
If Kamala does win, I think any sort of J6 shit is out of the question. The petite bourgeois that participated last time realized (due to all the arrests) its not a good idea to piss off the feds, and the dems will put out a biiiiiig show, complete with tanks on the front lawn of the white house, to show how "ready" they are.
Whoever wins, there will be minor squabbles about how it was stolen, and then things will move on quickly, aside from conspiracy theorists and resistance reddit libs.
but also Harris has pissed off everyone vaguely left and essentially every Muslim.
I really don't get that point - does the American left wing really thing Trump would be a better choice? Do American Muslims think that Trump will support Israel less?
With your system you only can choose between Trump and Harris, so pick whichever you think is less bad if you agree with neither.
I really don't get that point - does the American left wing really thing Trump would be a better choice? Do American Muslims think that Trump will support Israel less?
your problem is that you think people have 2 choices when in really they have 4, vote dem/rep, vote 3rd party or not vote at all. If someone pisses you off they arent owned your vote and honestly you shouldnt vote for them.
your last 2 points, just shows that people actually have no control over the goverment since its an oligarchic duopoly and not a democracy so why even participate then
Even when there is no prospect whatsoever of their being elected, the workers must put up their own candidates in order to preserve their independence, to count their forces, and to bring before the public their revolutionary attitude and party standpoint.
The real question is: If Trump wins, will libs start caring about the genocide on Nov 5 or will they at least have the self awareness to wait until Jan 21
I think that's a stretch these days, most libs I know have bought into the propaganda about how somehow migrants are the ones that caused all the inflation.
My funniest prediction I've had since like 2 years ago was that Trump wins the election, Biden dies like a day later getting Harris sworn in as a lame duck....and then Trump dies 2 weeks before taking office and JD vance becomes president.
...I feel like we don't live in that timeline though.
As of right now I think Harris just clinches it with the popular vote and the EC...then we spend the next few months litigating it both publicly and in various courts. Would be wild if the supreme court pulled a 2000 thing again...but I feel like that probably won't happen.
the surprising polls i the last day or so are making me think kamala has a chance and i'm not sure it's a good thing since it's guarantees that democrats will continue to use minorities to virtue signal and those minorities will love democrats for it.
The darkest outcome. Dems learn that they can get away with mass slaughter, and open genocide becomes business as usual from now until the end of the empire.
Kamala Harris as President with Republican control of both houses is probably the equation for the most amount of slaughter. Because then you can't critique Kamala so you can win Congress.
I think Trump eeks out a tiny EC lead. Most voters think Orange Man = gooder economy. Coupled with the fact the libs did no coalition building while also pissing off the Muslim vote, and Trump will limp across the finish line. Only caveat: abortion might force some otherwise Trump supporters to stay home.
Truly a race to the bottom.
The popular vote will be razor thin - within a percentage point either way. No one will care except for your 24hour news channel of choice.
There will be no other Jan 6 like action. The first one was too contradictory (I love Trump who loves cops but I hate these cops but I love rules but not these rules... let's cosplay like out of shape vikings and steal AOCs shoes).
Trump will die within 2 years of office and it'll cause a constitutional crisis (this one is just wishful thinking).
I am currently thinking it's going to be a pretty clean Harris win. Ask me again in an hour. I think she's done everything she can to fuck this up but she still wins due to the very unpopular abortion restrictions and people being tired of Trump as a person.
I think Kamala wins both the EC and popular vote by a thinner margin than Biden in 2020. Also by some combination of PA/MI/NV being close and taking forever to count, major networks don't have a projected winner until Thursday morning at the earliest. Trump's team tries to take like 6 states to court for infinite recounts all the way until inauguration and it's all we hear about for the next 3 months.
Funniest possible outcome next to an EC tie is that Kamala wins the EC but loses popular vote, unfortunately for my fellow chaos-enjoyed, that looks extremely unlikely. That might be the only way we ever see the end of the EC.
Republicans barely take it in a dubious 2000 Florida style situation while the Democrats go full ballistic on lawsuits against the Green party because they got like 3% of the vote in a different, irrelevant, state.
there will be four presidents next year. president liz cheney and her vp john settlerman shall implement project 2025 amidst the war with iran and with heavy but inconsequential republican dissent.
And people who love to draw stupid equivalences between ancient Rome and the US will jerk themselves off to death about the "year of the four presidents"
its not stupid at all. after princeps diocletian became dominus and turned rome into west persia the mormons pushed west and founded the second roman empire. it is known.
I’ll give dems this, they’ve at least begun to develop a sense of party loyalty that the gop has.
Tim Walz was admittedly an attempt to appeal to some economic populism. I have no faith they’ll make good on this, but I as per usual hope to be proven wrong.
The gamergate sauce is dying to some extent. Gamergaters have been in victory dance mode for 10 years after winning and even among apolitical people I’ve seen them tell these red-baiters to fuck off
Hilary Clinton in particular had a LOT of baggage and even in 2016 Trump barely won
tons of early voting. Generally dems do better when more people vote
I think overturning Roe was the GOP’s equivalent of Obgerfell, the pyrrhic culture war victory that they didn’t want to truly win.
Also I’ve noticed a bit of the idea of fully forming a “uniparty”, dems love kowtowing to the gop and if I were a fascist, I’d want my most vocal dissenters to get on my case for not being fascist enough.
Oh, and a lathe for the road. I can see immediately after a Harris win that dems will smugly tell the left: “see? We don’t need you after all!” even before they go back to brunch.
The margins are narrow enough that it will be a 2016 style coin flip that's decided by which way the independent voters break, and the normies are too pissed off at abortion bans and too annoyed by Trump to break for him again.
Unless Genocide Joe managed to completely alienate every Muslim voter in Michigan, and the Pennsylvania margin is narrow enough that the Supreme Court can do another judicial coup.
Trump wins the popular vote, Kamala wins the electoral college. Trump blames China, Latinos and Iran for this, he then continues to sell shoes and Trump Yu Gi Oh! Cards. At least Elon Musk stfu about politics.
I bet there would be a perfect video of that, of him in his leather gladiator outfit doing the weird USA chant before running into the rotunda, slipping on a banana peel and audibly snapping his spine
You know, I don't know. I really expected to see a ton of people in shirts with the picture of Trump right after he got shot around me but that didn't happen. At the same time, not seeing any of the lib lawn signs I Saw back in 2020. I think I'm going to weigh the lack of enthusiasm for Trump heavier and say that Kamala will probably wins with a fairly weak voter turnout. But that's more of a guess than anything based in hard data.
I'm predicting Trump takes it with a popular vote loss, as is tradition. The only states in serious contention are like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Nevada (which barely matters). Harris would need to win all four to take home the EC—Trump needs just one (except for Nevada).
Trump wins NC and Georgia among stories of shenanigans by state and local officials. AZ goes red (come on, it's never a swing state). NV and WI go blue as does PA on whatever cursed vibes put Shapiro and Fetterman in office. In the evening's big surprise, MI goes red due to Republican voting or abstention by Arab-Americans. Democrats put up a few milquetoast legal fights in NC and GA that go nowhere and then settle in for four years of vaguely racist complaints about MI.
I'm trying to think of the most jokerfying thing that could happen in Florida so that the actual results feel better:
Amendment 4 (abortion amendment) gets a majority vote of like 59% but ultimately doesn't pass because it needs 60%. Hell, maybe it just barely scraps 60%, and I get to celebrate for exactly one night before fucking Desantis finds a way to invalidate the results the next day.
Meanwhile amendment 3 (weed amendment) passes with something crazy like 70%+, and white small business tyrants rejoice. (I don't have a problem with weed, voted yes on it myself, but I would lose my shit if amendment 3 passed without 4.)
I think Kamala wins. Biden's walking corpse was a much worse candidate and he won in 2020. There's no way that Kamala "generic democrat" Harris will do worse than Skibidi Biden. Especially after the abortion ban.
I think a Kamala presidency will be worse for America and the world because everybody will go back to brunch. If the orange man wins, at least there will be some pushback for the horrible things that America is doing
I put a c note on Harris. I think a lot of Republicans aren't going to go vote, and I think a lot of female Republicans are going to vote Harris anyhow. I think a couple unexpected seats may flip blue do to a stronger voter turnout of democrats, and that this will also be the largest voter turnout ever for the under 30 crowd due to all the attention this election has been fostering.