The Soviets didn't coordinate shit in Poland lol (they couldn't even coordinate among themselves after Stalin murdered their officer corps), the red and black fascists just agreed on temporary spheres of influence. France, Spain, Britain, etc all did similar things when jockeying over colonial possessions at various points, that doesn't mean by itself they were allies in any meaningful meaning of the word. If they were actual allies we'd know because Britain would have been overwhelmed in the air war immediately and troops would have landed in England.
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
Was Stalin staging Soviet airplanes in German territory? Massing Soviet troops in Axis territory anywhere to threaten their neighbors? No? Lending the Luftwaffe planes?
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
... would you like to mention the signatories of the Tripartite Pact for the sake of the rest of the class?
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
Btw, this was your boy Ryti's end goal from the indisputable military alliance only a fucking liar would argue wasn't a thing with 100k-200k Nazis attacking from Finnish territory:
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
I literally said as much in my very first comment. It's not my fault you're falling over yourself to bootlick Soviet tag-teaming genocide with the Nazis because, I don't know, Finns bad or something. Apparently two things can't be bad at once.
Finland is slightly better than the Soviet Union in that their Nazi collaboration was in response to a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of almost half a million Finns expelled by the Soviets after the unjustified aggression of the Winter War) rather than preceded by a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of Poles in the USSR by the Soviets before the joint Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland). Both remain unconscionable.
I'll be real with you, I argued with ten different shitlibs that allying with Nazi Germany was Bad so I missed your qualifying statement at the end of your three innaccurate and misleading claims.
So you brought up the Tripartite Alliance in a discussion about Finland, contrasting the Tripartite Alliance with the accusation towards the Soviets having done the exact same thing as the Finns, in order to show...
... what, again?
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
You're the one who falsely claimed the Soviets and Axis had an alliance. I pointed to what actual alliances are, since you seemed to be confused by the idea.
You're absolutely right. The Soviets actively pursuing the destruction of a sovereign nation by cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis, in the interest of the Soviet Union's desire to quite literally genocide the Polish people, not unlike the Nazis, isn't really comparable to the Finns cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis to retake territory that was seized and ethnically cleansed from them.
The Finnish choice is unforgivable, but you're right, the Soviet choice was much worse. On account of being an active pursuit of genocide as well as an instrument to the Nazi genocide.