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  • Sigh, starting to lose my grace period for this series, Lee and Jared aren't able to keep this above it's bad writing.

    It's like they're trying to throw all the threads at once, but none of it makes sense, in a way it makes even less sense if you've read the books.

    Finish 1 single thread, it's been 12 episodes and they haven't come close, they just keep promising more, and the show makes less and less sense each episode, that's 12 hours of edging with 0 satisfaction.

    • Well I don’t think the first season knew what it was doing. So i would discount it. So far these two episodes have established, finally, the general arc of foundation, even getting ahead of things as far as the books are concerned.

      One thing I think the show is dropping the ball on is getting the audience to understand psychohistory and connect it to the dynamics of the story. Like the effect Gaal is having (with I’ve decided I like) makes sense and is consistent with the book but I don’t think it’s clear to or even felt by the audience.

      • I gave them the whole s1 for free, this is a hard bit of work, s1 is just runway, via con dios.

        But this is actually almost getting worse, we've spent half the time on f*ing synnax of all places, the most boring planet in the galaxy that doesn't even have people on it.

        I agree on PH, but they seem to be taking a whole different view on PH, not it being a statistical predictive method, but it being a cover for telepathy and seeing through time, which if you read some of Asimov's later foundation works, kind of fits, but was considered a bad idea because it made everything messy.

        I think there's 1 major twist coming, and if it comes out this season, with Demerzel, all this has payoff, but wow this is slow. And bringing The Mule in this early? We didn't need that new plot thread yet, especially since it's such a massive hammer, they're bringing in the whole end of the main book series into s2 before they've managed to get the beginning sorted, before Empire is even starting to fall.

        Gaal bothers me because she's Rey, the magic pixie girl who solves everything somehow, only we really haven't seen her do much expect that 2 minute scene figuring out navigation on the Raven. Salvor is more interesting, but everybody seems to be running off to places based on hunches without a reason.

        Mostly I'm furious because traveling without ftl takes forever, so everytime they decide they need to go to synnax for no reason, 100 years go by... I just finally started feeling comfortable in the 1st crisis time period, now they're all gone (except Poly).

        Maybe it gets better, but I had so much hope on this one, it's Apple and it's a series that has potential, but the first 2 episodes were heart-breaking so far.

  • As a fan of the books, this series is driving me insane. I watched all of S1 and at the end I was just confused. S2 so far has been worse in a lot of ways.

  • It's at best minimally entertaining. Obviously, they have used the books to inspire a completely different story.

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