in fairness this just says a DM from a kamala supporter. I thought it was a voter campaign text thing too at first because a lot of those get posted but double checked. So it's a random on social media essentially
The one single time public outcried (even one bishop joined) in III Reich at the cruel policy was the extermination of people deemed mentally ill. Hitler even listened and ordered to pause the action... after nearly every one of potential victims were dead. And this outcry only even happened in the first place because the victims were overwhelmingly German.
Seriously, it's plain as day with a material analysis. The material conditions for the working class aren't improving either way, but the party with red hats have a (wrong) solution, to blame immigrants and the gays. People falling for fascist rhetoric are miseducated (yay American education system), disillusioned and desperate. A competent and well meaning political party could turn that anguish and contempt for the status quo into results, but Dems are neither of those things. In the end, they also serve capital.
To meaningfully reform healthcare is to make workers less desperate, it will allow disgruntled and abused workers to leave their workplace and therefore dilute the power of the employers and to take away from the pharmaceutical companies. To meaningfully push through higher wages is to take away from capitalists at large. To meaningfully reform housing is to take away from landlords. To meaningfully reform prisons is to take away from the private prison industry. To meaningfully stop the genocide in Gaza is to take away from the Military Industrial Complex. They'll promise and pay lip service to those things but will never meaningfully change them.
They are not well meaning. One of the few aspects in which they are better is abortion and they fumbled that so hard, because they're also incompetent.
But no, to the diehard libs, it's because half the country are mentally ill. That's the only explanation.
They think they're prepared or desensitized because every week theres a mass shooting. Some sickening machismo in there. But they have no idea what these other people really go through.
10000% agreed. They don't understand the neverending string of holocausts after holocausts the west inflicts particularly on Muslims, indigenous peoples (and what they back against those in Latin America is even worse than in the north, too- full on death squads), upon Africa, what they have inflicted in living memory (60s, 70s, 80s) and want to return to inflicting on east and southeast and south Asia.
I must admit, while it would be terrible and things should not go that far (unless it's MAD, then let the punishment of the heavens spew radioactive shit all over the Great Satan), if only they knew what it's like. YanKKKeestan and the west will either have to learn empathy or the rest of humanity will inevitably be driven to the point of wiping them out in complete and utter self-defense.
Honestly it's pretty common for me, particularly after Gaza (but before since Biden as well). At the very least the out-and-comparatively-""honest"" fascists tend to believe on some level what they do. Libs know and embrace or deny exactly how vile they are, I have infinitely more hatred for them as a result now that they're all going on their usual high horse about yellow peril (strike 1), Russian "orcs" (strike 2), and then supporting genocide regardless of how much they try to shrug and wash their hands of the matter (strike 3, 4, 5, and onwards)
If shit were ever to go down with me in it (would ideally gtfo) I would rest... easier anyways, so long as the libs get theirs, what they support and advocate for, in full as well. Legit if I were to vote for anyone out of spite (as I have absolutely nil belief in electoralism) these past few years it'll be literally anyone other than libs, I'd even support an ""honest"" fascist over them (though I wouldn't support a fascist or a lib- not that there's a difference- ever, plain and simple).
All they need to do is stop the genocide. They won't do that, we all know they won't do that. Might veer into some dangerous places saying this but such behavior is real- well, they might be human beings but they sure as hell ain't the same as the rest of humanity in their actions and I'd stick to that and act accordingly
I mean ya they might biologically be human, but mentally whatever is going on be it something broken when they were born, or just something that developed over time due to their twisted worldview is fucked up in there. They have no empathy, no compassion, no morals. If Aliens showed up i would rush to meet one so i could try to explain that we all arent like these monsters and not to judge us as a species based on their evil. In reality most of the like base of support are just brainwashed people who dont really know what we as leftists know, but still have empathy and compassion. Thats even true for a good chunk of like fascist supporters too. They could be fixed if you just like got them to listen and explained things to them. Altho that would be hard. But many of these leaders and more committed libs know everything we know and actively choose to be evil. Those people arent savable. The only cure for that is to imprison them, fight them, and make sure they have no power in this world to hurt others with.
I look at it as a broken clock moment. I keep telling myself to not forget that those are the vanguard of fascism in this country; but... Goddamn they have precisely one good point about these gladhanding neoliberal compradors. Heartbreaking.
It was my birthday last week and I was out of the country. I was having a shitty day and one of the Harris phone bankers called me. I kept telling them now is absolutely not a good time and they kept talking over me.
I hate yelling at people over the phone but I was not having it; it's become so fucking common to try to talk over people now. I hate it. Always like to play victim too when someone doesn't deal with their shitty behavior either 🙄
Emotionally what it boils down to is that they're mad Palestinians in the middle of their genocide dared to interrupt and spoil their favorite political sport
“The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.”
This person not only is a rightwing nationalist little whiner, but also is too slavishly pignorant to have awareness of why there is struggle in and about the US specifically over it.
But weird how widespread the belief is that it happened during Al Aqsa Flood and how they dont believe you when you say the Zionists actually did do it
by fight they mean vote. Please write "pls dont genocide us" on a lil piece of paper put them all in a box and mail to Israel. Once they see this they will surely stop because you voted for it.
Who the fuck would they need to help anyway? Get some fucking blue fash that is supplying the genocide against them elected? No one that is supporting the Palestinian struggle for freedom is expecting them to go out and repay everyone for their support. What a fucking loser.
Actually you're kind of wrong in regards to help from Palestinians; Palestinians HAVE helped Americans during at least one time of oppression in the best way an oppressed group of people could:
Despite being oppressed and suffering immense poverty, they did what they could with the very little they have to help oppose an oppression they recognized.
I didn't mean for it come off as saying that they haven't helped, moreso the fact this person is acting like it should be expected of them given the situation they're in. The fact that they took the time to help out the Ferguson protestors while having to deal with their situation at home is a great example of solidarity.
2024 democrats are why I advocate for bringing back impaling as a method of execution. I don't even hate republicans this much; at least they actually have a belief system, regardless of how fractally wrong it is.
Wanting the lesser of two evils on one issue to win is not the same as co-signing an entire party’s agenda.
I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue. If you want a party to agree with you 100%, start a local party and run for local office in a non-presidential election.
Voting is supposed to be a civic duty, not a popularity vote and certainly not a purity test. Pull the lever and let the train hit one person instead of fucking everyone and everything. It’s not an intellectual exercise right now.
What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections? Just please be reasonable and realistic.
A vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide. You can "lesser evil" it as much as you want, but there's no denying it. If you can compromise on that on a personal level, then sure vote blue. But for many that's one thing that they cannot legitimise by voting for it.
I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue.
Why do you feel like they deserve your vote by doing nothing to earn it. Also the issue that they arent in 100% agreement on with some voters is a FUCKING GENOCIDE
What has Biden done for climate change, women's health, concentration camps for immigrants, or future elections? He's lifted environmental regulations, failed to codify abortion rights, continued and extended concentration camps for immigrants, and allowed a law to be passed that gives the president immunity from prosecution.
The dems are literally as bad as the republicans, and on top of all that they have been grinding Ukraine into paste as part of a proxy war and are assisting Israel in a genocide.
As an outsider looking in the Reps look like a harm reduction party. For one thing they might hasten the collapse of the blight on the world that is the USA. The Dems are just war crazed lunatics.
If you can compromise on genocide you can compromise on everything, so your judgment on anything; moral, practical or otherwise is absolutely useless, a person like you in occupied Europe would've been a quisling, justifying german rule as being preferable to open warfare
If a political party can commit and justify genocide, it can commit and justify any crime, which makes that party a threat to all groups vulnerable to genocide. It also sets a precedent that allows all political parties to more easily justify oppression and crimes against humanity
It also poisons and destroys solidarity and trust between different communities, since one group can now rightly say "you voted for the genocide of my people, why should I give a rats ass about you" as a result working class movements are obliterated wholesale and campism becomes the rule of the day, who knows maybe you're a nihilist who likes that state of affairs
I gotta say I find moral cockroaches like you extremely tedious, you dont care about the lives of real people, it's all just a team sport where anything goes, mass murder, sa, racism, who gives a shit just issues, you engage with politics like this because you believe you're invulnerable to the fascism you're helping to generate, news flash you're not
Do everyone a favor, when you slither into this site, learn to shut the fuck up, lurk and read and try your very best to deprogram the fascism eating away at your mind, thank you :)
I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue.
You should end your entire post on just "I genuinely don’t understand". If it is genuine that is, because how fucking moron you would have to be to not understand we are communists, we have literally hundreds and thousands of reasons to not support this or that wing of the US capitalist party. Genocide this obvious was the last straw for a lot of people and this include people that are not communists but anyone who have any shred of functional conscience. Your fucking country, after 80 years of slowly becoming nazi, finally arrived at the position. And its society reaction to this, is exactly like the German society reaction in the 30's.
It's worse. We have the history of 30s Germany to serve as a warning.
No one cares or has any solidarity with people outside their family and maybe close friends. No care at all for people they don't know. Lack of empathy is like a cancer eating away at this country.
I'm not gonna remove this post or ban you because I sincerely hope that you will take these replies to heart and do some introspection while leaving it up so as to provide an example of the smug condescending bullshit we are all tired of from you gormless liberals.
The lesser of two evils, when done over and over again with no discernable pushback, turns into a larger and larger evil over time. They only look substantially different if you have the memory of a worm, or refuse to look at the long-term picture.
Voting is supposed to be a way for the people to exercise their preferences on their government, not some race-to-the-bottom where the party changes but the policy (foreign wars and interventions, neoliberal approach to healthcare and education, funding police, bailing out banks) stays largely the same.
If you believe the political system is beyond critique or opposition, and that citizens have a duty to their officials rather than vice versa, you are already an authoritarian and an opponent of democracy.
What have Biden and Harris done about climate change (besides set aside more oil for drilling)? Women's health (letting Roe v. Wade slip)? The only change in immigrant detention was that they kept whole families together in the camps instead of separating them. And in terms of elections, they made crowned a nominee who won 0 primaries.
Republicans are bad but Democrats are a total red herring. There's no easy way out, because the same forces are acting on each party, with a little bit of kayfabe as distinction.
If we can't agree 100% on genocide being bad then they've lost the plot. And speaking of purity tests the dems are smearing people in congress criticising this as anti semites. Cori bush was fucked over due to this. Saying not voting is a vote for trump isn't a purity test? Plenty criticising the US empire being branded as a Russian bot isn't a purity test? Jill stein being called a russian asset isn't a purity test? Lets ignore that the issue you've said is a purity test is an ethnic cleansing coming on the back of a brutal apartheid where not even the bare minimum was done. What is done is the US cutting funding on the UNRWA that was for desperately needed food and covering up obstruction of food transport by the admin.
It aint just Gaza btw but this is an example of whats wrong with this admin
Wanting the lesser of two evils on one issue to win is not the same as co-signing an entire party’s agenda.
Meanwhile, in the screenshot: "Yes my life is more important than Palestinians... FUCK THEM!!!" Truly the words of someone who doesn't support their party's genocidal agenda.
I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue. If you want a party to agree with you 100%, start a local party and run for local office in a non-presidential election.
Motherfucker: the dems are in 0% alignment with my stances on any issue. Whatever think tank lanyard wearer cooked up this weaksauce talking point needs to be fired.
Voting is supposed to be a civic duty, not a popularity vote and certainly not a purity test. Pull the lever and let the train hit one person instead of fucking everyone and everything. It’s not an intellectual exercise right now.
You're pulling out all the lib cliches today, aren't you? "Fucking everyone and everything" is going to be hit by that train just as surely if you pull the lever for the demonrats. Everyone who isn't a demonrat shill knows this.
What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections? Just please be reasonable and realistic.
The adults in the room know that K-dolf Hitler won't be any better on any of those issues than Drumpf the felon.
What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections?
Hey dipshit, which fucking president was in power when Roe v. Wade was culled? Which fucking president started mass deportations and the militarization of ICE? Which fucking president refuses to this day to close the concentration camps? Which fucking candidate(s, to be fair this one is bipartisan) is all-in on fracking for oil and fuck climate change? Which fucking candidate promised to bring in the same fascists you believe shouldn't have access to power into her cabinet?
Democrats to jack shit to deal with the problems you claim to care about. Supporting either fucking party will give you the same result, and if you haven't figured this out yet, you're either a fascist yourself or willfully ignorant
She's doing as bad as trump on every single issue and has shown to be worse on some (deportations). On top of that people like you gave a shit when he was in office.
People are willing to forgive all of that as long as she isn't committing a genocide. And then you have the gall to talk about 100% agreement? Pull your head out of your ass. It's not just "this one little issue" (and even if it was, it's a FUCKING GENOCIDE) it's the fact she does nothing on all of them.
What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections?
The same as Kamala.
Kamala will be worse though, because if you let her get away with genocide, then the gates are open. There's nothing left. Showing the ruling elite that you don't even fight against that, shows them they can do whatever they want. Doing that will be so much worse than having a slightly ruder and more obviously decrepit version of Joe Biden in office.
You will stand one day and ask who will speak up for you, and no one will for they will all be gone already.
Also elections are literally a popularity vote, dumbass