Where are all of the reddit refugees these days?
Just making sure I'm in the right place. I cannot see any developed communities here so I've started wondering, what's the real place everyone from Reddit has moved to? I've heard something about Discuit, but never tried it.
Lots are here. I joined a while ago on a different server and the content was slow. But by now it's like always fresh content.
I can tell you the traffic rose up.
A few months ago, there were quite some people urging everyone to actively post and comment, to make the communities more lively and engaging.
globally, traffic actually went down. Somebody posted some data a while ago and it was very clear. I would not worry about it (I think to a certain extent it's physiological), by still
This is probably where most of them ended up, a few communities here are the official replacements too.
The problem is that Reddit is MASSIVE compared to any of the alternatives. More people are moving over slowly, it just takes time. As for why you aren't seeing much, maybe your feed is set to 'local'?
You can also subscribe to communities you like. Try looking for topics here: https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Just browsing /c/everything top-6 hrs and then getting into arguments in the comments.
It's like I never left.
If you can't get into pointless arguments with people who think the 1 mile radius around their house is representative of the entire world, what would be the point in even having a reddit replacement?
How dare you, browsing by everything top 12 hours is clearly superior
Only if you can't handle New.
Pshh, typical 6’er mindset. You can’t handle the levels of content when sorting by top 12 hours.
What you browsing on? Sync just seems off for me.
All the comment chains are fucked too.
Sync
I don't really have issues with the chains? Maybe it's something to do with your instance?
Well I don't really consider myself a refugee so much anymore is the thing, it just feels like home here now
Same here. lemmy reminds me of how reddit was 10 years ago. Feels like home... God I'm old.
Another ex redditor here. The issue seems to be that a lot of people created communities but never bothered to post something. Even my little ubuntu server community has nearly 90 subscribers by now.
We should work on more visible „you‘re here, what to do next“. Something like „go to communities tab, all, subscribe to each one you like“, missing any? Make them yourselves, but dont forget to post on them since very few people will subscribe to an empty community. 10-20 posts over a month should be a good start. Generally avoid bots since they dont boost interaction at all (my personal impression).
Or a reminder for people who have made communities but no posts. That would stress them a bit I suppose but I thought I‘d bring the idea to the table.
Anyway, have a good one. :)
I think a lot of people don't realize just how much content on Reddit was being posted by bots. Also, the culture here is a lot more accepting of posting and commenting days or weeks apart, more like an old-school forum. Whereas on Reddit I would have thought someone was weird if they were commenting on a post I made a week ago, here it's not that weird. It means discussions can go on a bit longer.
I agree 100%. Commenting on an old post was different over there. But I think my original point still stands. Peeps who want this place to thrive need to make a post every now and then. :)
I didn't frequently post new threads on reddit either. The great thing about the structure of reddit and Lemmy (as opposed to that of e.g. Twitter/Mastodon) is you don't really need to have your own ideas what to post, you can look at what others have posted and then react to that by adding your thoughts. But of course if everybody did only that, then there wouldn't be anything to react to, and that may be kinda the problem right now.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head imo. I didn’t even think about this particular mechanic until you mentioned it.
People are so used go „reaction content“ and „reacting“ passively that this place does not grow as fast as it probably could if people were more creative. Creativity is like a muscle. If you don’t train it, it’s really weak.
So, I think it’s very much a good idea to put some easily visible „suggestion“ somewhere that this place will improve as much as you make it by posting original content ie questions and ideas.
Yeah I'm definitely much more of a commenter than a poster. In the early weeks I was really trying to post but I kinda ran out of steam.
But of course if everybody did only that, then there wouldn’t be anything to react to, and that may be kinda the problem right now.
You're right, we have plenty of users with insightful viewpoints, but there is a dearth of posts and content for them to talk about. Also, let's not forget that the sorting algorithm isn't great right now and a lot of people aren't seeing enough of the content that does exist.
A large issue is that what would be one subreddit is now a dozen different communities. What would fix this is allowing communities to "federate".
Let's say you had news@europe.site and europenews@lemmy.site.
The mods could have the option to consolidate with each other. Each would have to agree to the move and could revoke that access at any time. If one instance goes down, the other still retains their posts. Both of them would still exist on their own, but anything made on one would automatically be published on the other.
This could have multiple levels.
At the most basic, posts are just automatically brought over between each community. The mods can take action that only affects their local instance.
You can then add an option to federate with the other community and any community they federate with. Mods are presented with options to disallow some of those communities if they choose.
Each community can then set moderation levels and permissions. There could be an option to retain moderation on federated posts made on the other instance for their local posts. IE if europenews@lemmy.site removes a post made on europenews@lemmy.site, news@europe.site can choose to have it removed there.
You can also choose to grant full mod powers to other communities. So if europenews@lemmy.site removes any post, even one made on news@europe.site, it would automatically be removed from news@europe.site.
This would alleviate the fractures caused by multiple communities without losing the benefits of federation.
This is a really interesting idea. It would address one of the biggest hurdles I've had with full Lemmy adoption. I find a lot of the communities for many topics can be fractured with seemingly duplicative communities. It could also allow the larger user base to decrease the dependency on a particular instance.
Thats a neat idea. Maybe make a feature request on github? This stuff needs to be brought to the devs attention.
Lurking, just like I did on reddit. Lemmy is amazing and scratches most of the same itch reddit did for me, but I just read, vote, and move on.
I just read, lurk, and occasionally reply to comments.
Same
Lemmy is getting a lot of content these days. So I'm happy with it.
Yeah, it was a bit weird at the start with all those emtpy communities and you didn't quite know if any are taking off.
Now a few months later you can stop going to those that still remain empty or are just reddit repost bot cementeries.
Not as much variety as reddit but also not sure how anyone could expect that within a few months.
I am just amazed how many people still put up with the official reddit app.
If one thing the 2 years of covid taught me ,it's that "people are lazy and stubborn". We could have forced u/spez to go back but instead most people just decided "nah it's fine, we'll get used to it". The same with working from office. Just why? The damn CEOs and the other fossils in upper management are stubborn to change.
Most of us are here! If you're just joining us, Welcome to the Party!
We have linux memes and abstract memes, we hate politicians and we hate climate change. But mostly we have memes.
I'm here!! And there are 'developed communities'... Lots of them. Keep looking and you'll get how things work here.
The bar to interacting with lemmy is alot higher than reddit, it takes a while to figure out.
That is true. Stay motivated. I think it's worth it. I think Lemmy still needs to grow in some aspects. And some things need to change to make it better. Both technical and the user experience. I'm kind of optimistic, though.
Present. Using this as I did reddit. It’s like browsing a lot of the smaller subreddits I enjoyed, but all the time.
Downsides are less content, and definite growing pains. I think there are some aspects of the platform severely limiting its growth at this time, and I’m not sure how it’s going to tackle them yet. But I’m along for the ride.
I'm in the same boat. What do you think are the limiting factors? I'm starting to see that federation is a double edge sword. It's like every week a dozen new instances pop-up that have nefarious motives that need to be defederated with.
Lemmy is kinda nice but still kinda quiet, also as a 30 something I feel that the crowd here is quite young and immature which isn't that great
Really? This surprises me. Reddit was a circlejerk of who had the best joke to race to the top of the comments section, not seeing that here.
Still the same hot take comments based on an article headline, though.
All the puns got real fucking annoying.
This is surprising to me, I actually experienced the opposite. Reddit had a lot of teens but Lemmy seems to have older posters who are more thoughtful about what they post. In my 30's myself and wasn't able to get anyone younger than 34 to join.
It could just be the communities you subscribed to?
I mostly browse "Top X hours" which is All the communities and it's filled with terrible memes and "funny" things I've blocked of few of these meme communities but overall it feels pretty low quality content aside from news but still there there's lots of duplicates due to the various similar commuties on Lemmy
Ur immature!
I see some older techies on Mastodon, maybe give that a shot? Different format, I know. Also takes a tad bit of work to find people to follow, but you get there. Just follow a couple of hashtags related to your interests.
I'd rather not browse Reddit if it means having to use the official dumpster-fire of an app... since that's the only option now, I just deleted my account.
Lemmy definitely scratches the itches I used to rely on Reddit for - I've had zero urge to relapse.
I made myself a custom infinity app apk with a personal api key. But I swore once that stops working I will not try and fix it. Not that I use it a lot, only got to reddit a few times a week while I open my lemmy app every day.
I've just been here since the API change. I've been more or less happy with it. Some things are dissapointing, like there being just as much of a hive-mind mentality as reddit. But I guess that's probably just inherent to online vote-based communities.
I also wish there were an easier way to find new communities - and good ones. I don't want to browse shitty memes. I want stuff where people are participating in good faith genuine discussion about meaningful topics.
I've found some of that here so far.
At the end of the day though, this is open source and decentralized. It's everything a social media should be. To me, anything less than that is a waste of time. There is zero reason to spend your personal time creating content for a company to profit off of.
This.
I loved the app I used for reddit and the dev decided (rightfully) to redirect the same app style and function to lemmy.
I love how familiar it feels, but agree I wish it was easier to find interesting communities outside of just jokes and memes.
I'm here, but barely. I've not went back to Reddit (got IP banned during the migration), but Lemmy is too focused on certain topics for me to enjoy it.
Mainly FOSS and Linux community FLOCKED to Lemmy. You really can't say anything about anything without people coming out of the woods screaming about how stupid you are, how FOSS is better, and Linux is superior.
Remember the backlash over Sync for Lemmy? Massive hate from the Lemmy community because it wasn't FOSS. Wouldn't be shocked if the Boost for Lemmy dev stopped developing his app after seeing that. I feel like Lemmy is shooting itself in the foot and pushing people away.
EDIT: case in point. https://lemmy.ca/comment/3131292
I second this. Lemmy is fully of "techy people" that think the only way to be "techy" is the way they define it without realizing if you aren't universally adept or open then you are curating your content to a point you are part of the "sheep" you claim not to be a part of.
If you like anything you pay for then you are wrong. If you still use Windows you are wrong. You need to abandon everything Google and Apple but still buy a Google product and run a degooglefied version of the product. So give the company you hate your money but not your data. Makes perfect sense.
It's either Linux or the highway but not everyone wants to use a terminal to use Mullvad or Tor every time you want to access the web to shop for a pair of shoes. Despite the fact you can write a script that still requires you to use a terminal to run Tor or what ever.
Not everyone wants Torrent speeds to pirate that piece of Microsoft software or movie. Some of us want to be, "normies" and just buy and use things that work without all the work that is unnecessary in our every day lives. We want to go to work, make money, spend time around people and things we love.
Yes, we get it we are the reason corporations and capitalism exist but I don't see your FOSS downloads and open source software slowing that way down. We don't need online tech heros who can prove you can free yourself. We need activists and people like that running got local politics and leadership helping actually put a stop to being taken advantage of.
Posting something about Unity enraging game companies is something anyone can do. But shoving a community off that you should be respectfully educating rather than shunning just because someone didn't want to pirate a movie and instead watch it on a Windows machine through Linux isn't or doesn't change anything.
I am no longer on Reddit but Lemmy is fully of tech people who also often have 0 fucking clue what they are talking about. Which is quite ironic.
I noticed that as well.
But they are all coming from specific communities. And in Lemmy it is easy to just block those communities and move on.
Problem is that it does reduce the amount of content you can see, and Lemmy isn't all that big at the moment.
People obsessed with Firefox also. It's getting old
I've only moved back to Firefox because what Google is currently doing with Chrome/Chromium is terrible and harmful.
I will say, Firefox is sluggish and shit, but I refuse to allow Google to fuck over the internet.
Reddit is old enough to vote and has several orders of magnitude more users. You can't create that much content organically overnight. As more content gets added it will attract more people who are interested in that content. In turn those users will contribute even more, even if it's just in the form of engagement and upvoting posts they like.
Lemmy is already experiencing some growing pains because the decentralized, user hosted nature of the platform will never be able to react quickly across all instances. We deal with it because we don't want to be controlled by one overarching entity and this is the ONLY alternative. Are there issues? Yes. Are there fewer issues than other social media sites? I don't know, but the problems are at least different and potentially more fixable in the long run.
https://sub.rehab is a good place to look for former Reddit communities that made the move.
that site has a great interface, lots of ways to sort data in useful ways.
Other sites could learn a thing or two from whoever did their UI
A lot of communities went to Discord for some reason. I don't get it, its not the same as reddit at all.
Yeah, r/mealtimevideos officially adopted Discord, and when I brought up Lemmy to the mods, they said none of them knew much about it, so they skipped over it I guess.
Thankfully we do have !Mealtimevideos@lemmy.world and !mealtimevideos@lemmy.best, which I try to keep stocked with interesting stuff.
AS reddit was born out of the forum, more and more convoluted-feature-laden discord servers will arise out of reddit
Not every community made the move. Tech related ones are definitely here, not so much for games or anything in humanities unless we're counting very small communities. But it's a start.
I'm here. I left reddit for good, I don't even lurk it anymore.
I’m here! How did you not see me?
Upvoted for visibility.
I would say 99.9% of people are still on Reddit. I mainly use Lemmy to get the bigger news stuff and the gaming community is pretty active here too. Also I use Lemmy on mobile only really since the Reddit app is still terrible.
If I want to read about one of my other interests I'll go to the specific subreddit on my desktop browser and use old Reddit but with no account since I deleted mine a few months ago. Sometimes I'll post or comment on one of those smaller communities here but I don't want to be someone who posts tons of things to a community. Too much work for me.
Hopefully the user base and engagement will grow over the next few years. Welcome to being an early adopter!
I only go to Reddit for porn since they lose money when I do that.
I visit the frontpage now and then. I am still not sure if it is just my imagination, but it feels like the quality of the content has significantly decreased. In addition, the highest comments have fewer likes then was the case before. But I am not good at remembering numbers so it could also be just my imagination.
I'm here still. It is much slower here than reddit, but there are some upsides to that. One is that I spend way less time on my phone, scrolling
That's what I'm loving about it atm, I can have a quick scroll while I'm waiting for something or go on an adventure through the different communities, I don't feel like I have to check it all the time. I was pretty addicted to reddit for a while, so this has been great.
I am on Lemmy (here and a few other instances) but when I get into discussions in comments here I am starting to wonder if I should just quit the whole social media concept altogether. So far I have mostly stayed since I still need to get some news from somewhere but RSS might be a better option in the long run.
How do you perceive the average discussion on Lemmy, if it makes you to leave this site?
I've been ramping up my RSS feed collection constantly just to see that the majority of trustworthy sites are paywalled by now. I'd love to see some sort of "Netflix for news" (i.e. one subscription, multiple sources) but that's yet to come, I'm afraid.
Maybe if feedly pro were to implement (ai generated) summaries of my favorite sources, I'd be willing to subscribe there.
Until then, I've grown a taste for podcasts. Those are mostly free with large overlap in content I'd have to pay for for if I read it myself. Kinda funny…
I'm trying (and mostly(?) failing) to transfer the energy/thought into Arch/Programming (check my instance)
Social media/Doomscrolling is just so utterly easy
Spend a few minutes going through the all communities here, a number of active communities moved across, you just have to look for them.
Discuit seems to offer nothing new but more promises of not falling down the same buisness practice pitfalls as reddit. I am sure they are well intentioned. But intentions are not enough.
I am on Lemmy for one simple reason. I am done trusting corporations to run projects for any extended poeriod of time without succumbing to corruption, greed, or missmanagement.
I'm assuming Discuit is a private company using proprietary software? If that's the case, may as well just crawl back to Reddit and gently place the boot back on your neck.
The ex-reddit users who choose to not let sociopath scumbags golden shower them can still be found here.
Discuit is actually working on open sourcing thesite.
I'm here working at developing a community every day. It's the community for my hometown, a large city on the coast of California. I try to post some interesting original content at least every other day, including photos.
Sometimes I feel like it's a personal echo chamber, but there are lots of lurkers and upvotes, so I keep going. Reading lots of other Lemmy communities going forward. It's all good.
You don't find this one to be developed? Well, they might not be establishments like on Reddit but there's definitely activity on many communities.
I am here. I managed to not return to Reddit, and now would only go there to look up something specific, and not as a signed up member. I make do with Lemmy. I am hoping it grows too.
lurking
Same
Still here
I log on about one a week. I forgot why I showed up. I replied to replies and then started scrolling.
Goddamn it. I came here do do something. Fuck.
Good! Use your distracted feelings, boy. Let the scroll flow through you!
I'm still on reddit. But only like 5 subs. (stuff important to me that goes way beyond reddit's idiocy)
So I've unsubscribed to everything except those.
My front page on reddit is great. I literally only get those 5 subs.
Yep this is the right place. But we are still building it, with only our own efforts. Without data mining nor investors.
Still here. Never went back, but it's so hard not to.
Still here. I'm making it work. The very dominant focus on particular topics and views is readily apparent and somewhat lessens the experience compared to the variety I was used to on Reddit, but I don't mind Lemmy's predilections so much as those were areas of interest for me anyway, just not areas that I'd focussed on so heavily, or areas that I had been more interested in in the past and drifted from with age. This makes it kind of nice to kind of reconnect and re-engage with those topics, even if it does make things a little bland overall.
What I'm missing most is the ability to just assume, correctly, that whatever I need information on at that moment will have a sub dedicated to it already and I just need to correctly guess the name of the sub. This was especially handy for technical questions.
They're all over commenting, posting, and such. I'm one of them, though I mostly lurk. There's plenty of developed/developing communities here on lemmy
I think most of them are back on Reddit.
Still here, and happy. Most of my communities made the cut. I use social media a bit less often now, which is probably healthier too.
Honestly if the Nuzlocke community had migrated to Lemmy, I'd never go back to Reddit at all. I'm just waiting for Lemmy to develop enough critical mass for those more niche communities to populate.
I feel that. The only subreddit I still have bookmarked is my Genshin impact leaks sub, which I view while logged out. Other then that, Lemmy has been good for me.
Reporting in
startrek.website is the biggest concentration of them I've seen, but since reddit forced its subreddits to reopen, plenty of people continued visiting there, or, like me, visit both.
I spend significantly less time on reddit, but lemmy is still missing the sheer volume of interaction that reddit offers by mere virtue of its size. I have to search here for episode reaction threads for stuff like Foundation and Trek, because it doesn't usually land on my home page, and though the comments are always thoughtful and worth reading, there are like ten of them total, if that - as opposed to the dozens if not hundreds of reactions on any comparable thread over on reddit.
I hate to say it, but the exodus failed. I'm glad to have discovered Lemmy, but it simply doesn't have anywhere near the numbers to compete.
I hate to say it, but the exodus failed. I’m glad to have discovered Lemmy, but it simply doesn’t have anywhere near the numbers to compete.
I think "failed" is a little strong, and that we have to remember two things, here: 1) Lemmy wasn't in ideal position to handle a major Rexxitor exodus at the time, and 2) Lemmy is best looked at as a long-term project that will ultimately have higher quality of infrastructure, user rights, and users themselves. Much of that is already true, arguably.
What's helped me personally is to start a community where one was needed in the FV, posting regular content there. Others are joining in, and it's fun to see our little community grow. It also means a lot to me that I don't have to worry about a corporation one day arbitrarily fucking with our community to suit their own ends.
That said, if you're simply a content-devourer, then I agree that Lemmy is going to be less useful than Reddit for the time being. But there's also a fairly unique opportunity to help change that, as many are doing here. <3
I'm here from reddit
Same with Twitter. Now you generally just stick to websites based on the communities you're in. The only monopoly left to crack now is YouTube.
youtube might never really die though, that business model is just so incredibly dependant on scale, and hosting ridiculous amounts of data, that it seems nearly impossible for something else to start up
YouTube sucks, but I don't want them to die. The insane amount of educational videos on there would be lost. I can pull up a video on how to repair a certain electronic, uploaded 14 years ago, where the uploader is MIA, but it still helped me fix my issue.
Not to mention any other service that tries to replicate YouTube will 100% have crazier monetization, with potential forced subscription. YouTube was built up slowly. Any new service will have to launch knowing potential billions of users will sign up and upload day 1. How do you even prepare for that? I mean shit, when new games launch, like Call of Duty, every fucking year the servers are flaky for a week+. They never learn.
I'm here and on Mastodon. I really like Mastodon. (I still have my old twitter account, but have not posted or commented for years. I never really used it anyway. Now I use it to see the occasional newsworthy linked tweet since they require a login now to view anything. I'm purposely ignoring its attempt to rebrand)
I still go to old.reddit and lurk on slow news days. But my feed isn't as robust or interesting as it was before the exodus. It's still good for historical help on certain topic. So I will keep checking it probably.
But to me it looks like Lemmy and Mastodon are getting slow, steady, but high quality growth overall. I think the fediverse in general may be the saving grace of the internet. It looks to me like the "main stream" internet is becoming one voice, much like Clear Channel taking over and homogenizing the eclectic voices of regional radio.
Still here. All my spent on lemmy is just browsing my subscribed communities by hot and the occasional comment here and there.
You are disingenuous.
Lemmy is super uncomfy for women right now. The women i know are either still on reddit or just gave up on social media altogether.
I presume you are a woman? I am a woman too and see Lemmy just as comfortable or uncomfortable as Reddit was. Granted there are less communities focused on women though, is that what you mean? Or you really mean Lemmy is more toxic?
Yeah I'm not sure what they mean either, and I chat to other women on here every day. Not to say they've not had a bad experience obviously but it seems far from universal.
OP if someone is being a sexist creep, smash that report button!
Can't say I've noticed anything different to most places, other than right back at the start when I called a few people out for assuming everyone was a guy it actually got upvoted, which was nice 😄
Probably it's more the former reason. I used to curate my experience on reddit carefully and mainly participate woman centric subreddits, and few male centric ones, and I got used to that. Lemmy looks more like what would happen if you browse default subs on reddit, which tend to be very toxic. It's a chicken and egg problem: you won't attract women unless there are spaces women feel comfortable, and those spaces don't exist unless there are women there to create them.
I still find myself going back to reddit for certain niche fashion or fitness things. And when i try to get my normie girlfriends to look at lemmy, it's hard to sell them on it. They don't care about politics or mod drama and reddit is still better for them.
Not OP and not a woman, but yeah, there are way fewer communities for women here, but Reddit was much worse and a lot more sexist when it was just finding its feet. There is still a bit of a boys club mentality around Lemmy though.
What reasons are they uncomfy and is there any way we can make women safer here? Not sealioning, being genuine. I try my best to make my instance as inclusive and welcoming as possible and would love to know if there's anyway I could improve. I honestly would go as far to say there's a pretty high ratio of women on literature.cafe compared to other small niche focused instances, but I don't have any actual statistics to gauge from to say definitively.
You're welcome to join us on slrpnk.net. We're a safe and inclusive space, and also we're defederated from most of the shittier instances by default.
I can vouch for slrpnk.net. Their staff team is fantastic and extremely proactive in engaging on matters pertaining to user safety.
Out of curiosity, what changes would you suggest to make it a more welcoming place for women?
How so?
You don't have to reveal your gender on here.
If OP is getting unlucky enough to, idk, encounter a solid stream of sexist memes in their feed or something, "revealing" gender is kind of irrelevant to the level of uncomfy they might feel.
I don't know why it's uncomfortable for women here, but I assume they would feel that way whether they revealed their gender or not
I'm here!
I'm never going back to that cesspool.
Oh you are in the right place! Once people figure out how to use the fediverse its jover for reddit.
I came here for video games and dank memes, but most of the website devolved into a political shitshow.
I have about 120 comms blocked (mostly politics and porn) after only being here a few months ☹️
I would, but my mobile app doesn't allow me to block them at account level, and instead only app level.
I get a TON of hate community/instances; foreign community/instances that aren't in my language or anywhere near my country; and then the same community spread out across 20 instances, so I have to subscribe to all of them (as neither of them are super active), and then deal with the massive amount of duplicate posting.
Everything is politics, comrade.
Here despite the lack of content/content I can't get here on Lemmy. Still, generally I'd say it's a little better on this side of things.
Still here though to be fair I haven't been that active for the last few years as I'm been spending more time on discord.