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  • My point is that your entire premise of "don't vote for the Democrats" while plotting a revolution is nonsensical.

    You haven't supported that point.

    If you think both need to be overthrown, why allow the much worse option for the climate and average person to get into power by withholding your vote? Does it not make more sense to pick the least damaging option available to you while plotting for long term goals? Are you okay with more people dying from the Republican party's policies when you can actively stall/stop them?

    The Republicans are monstrously evil, but are no way "much worse" than the monstrously evil Democrats, because both serve their donors alone.

    And if you think I'm mask off or whatever platitudes you tell yourself for "being fine with genocide" go off I guess. Nuance never hasnt been the far left's speciality (except when infighting).

    You said you were okay with genocide, said you refuse to read books, and never responded to my counters to your ridiculous claims supporting the Tsars, Batista regime, and Kuomintang over the Leftists.

    • Its pretty obvious as I've continually hammered that the Dems are the less damaging option, which is why I support them.

      The Republicans are "much worse" if you leave your little echo chamber: look at the track record for each party. The Republicans want to mass deport immigrants, constantly deny climate change exists, and have their plan to kill off trans people and other sexual minorities in their playbook. Not to mention the whole "Muslim ban" they did under Trump. The Democrats by contrast... don't do those things. That's all there is to it for me to know they are better. Make a vent diagram on the actual policies each party has implemented, and you will see a stark difference, even if they are both "Right."

      There we go with the classic attenpt at a gotcha again. I never said I supported any of those regimes, yet you seem to think I do. I have the cognitive capacity to look at the aftermath of those things and go "man, that sure was a lot of dead people. maybe I should try the peaceful approach first."

      furthermore, how many of those Arab Spring revolutions ended with things being better for the people? My claim is that across all revolutions, there is a rather high chance for things to go tits up and ruin everything.

      • The Republicans want to mass deport immigrants

        They do, but the Democrats have deported more and are continuing to do so right now, with no sign of Harris wanting to do different from Biden on that or any front other than having a Republican in her cabinet (by her own characterization, the biggest difference between the two of them is her wanting that last thing).

        This is that classic thing where the kids in cages under Obama "didn't exist" until Trump entered office and finally there was an incentive by a branch of the media to report on it, though they did so only to blame Trump for it and not doing a thing to hurt their sacred cow Obama. You keep chanting "grow up" like it's some own, but it seems plain that you are basing it off of your perception of the "Adults in the Room," the Dems and their media lackeys, with any substantial break from them and their professed ideology representing immaturity by the very fact.

      • Its pretty obvious as I've continually hammered that the Dems are the less damaging option, which is why I support them.

        It's clear you believe that, but it's clear that I don't. You haven't supported that logically.

        The Republicans are "much worse" if you leave your little echo chamber: look at the track record for each party. The Republicans want to mass deport immigrants, constantly deny climate change exists, and have their plan to kill off trans people and other sexual minorities in their playbook. Not to mention the whole "Muslim ban" they did under Trump. The Democrats by contrast... don't do those things. That's all there is to it for me to know they are better. Make a vent diagram on the actual policies each party has implemented, and you will see a stark difference, even if they are both "Right."

        The Democrats still do those things, please leave your echo chamber. Virtue signaling isn't policy.

        There we go with the classic attenpt at a gotcha again. I never said I supported any of those regimes, yet you seem to think I do. I have the cognitive capacity to look at the aftermath of those things and go "man, that sure was a lot of dead people. maybe I should try the peaceful approach first."

        The "peaceful approach" doesn't exist. You justify the immense daily violence and condemn retaliation against it.

        furthermore, how many of those Arab Spring revolutions ended with things being better for the people? My claim is that across all revolutions, there is a rather high chance for things to go tits up and ruin everything.

        And yet revolution is required for things to improve.

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