2 life pro tips in one meme!
2 life pro tips in one meme!
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2 life pro tips in one meme!
To be clear, if you're at all concerned about maintaining a food budget, even if it's $500/week the billionaire class is still your enemy.
To be clear, the billionaire class is your enemy
Hey, there might be some politicians on here who can always call up their good friends whenever they need something!
To be positively translucent, even someone with $1,000,000 in the bank has 1000x less than the poorest billionaire. For other disturbing facts, see https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/.
For everyone following along at home: this website is worth a click if you've never seen it before!
Represented as a volume is also great. If I'm not wrong, his wealth in 500€ bills is a 165 m (180 yards) cube. One million is 3 l (a little less than 0.8 gallons).
Which of course is a stupid comparison indicative of economic ignorance, because wealth does not grow linearly for anyone who doesn't stuff their money under a mattress.
I want $500/week for food!
Hell, even if you can easily afford way more than that, you are still closer to the person who can only afford $2 of food a day than a billionaire.
The difference between a million and a billion is about a billion
Ain't that the truth! I'm a lay off and a medical emergency from needing to do this diet.
Billionaires are either an apocalypse or a revolution away from needing to do this.
One of these is much more likely to happen tomorrow than the other.
Ok but for real tho. The average American severely underestimates how far you can get on rice, beans, lentils and chickpeas.
Serious question, if I live off just that, I end up feeling like absolute garbage. That's even with supplementing it with greens like spinach and some other veggies and vitamin supplements. What am I missing?
Like, macro-wise, I can replace meat and other things, but it doesn't seem to hit the same?
Get a blood test. You could have a micronutrient deficiency. It is common to develop either vitamin D, B or iron deficiencies when you cut meat since they just aren't as abundant outside of red meat and organ meat.
Would you care to elaborate on what you feel like when you try living on plants? What do you tend to eat? How long does it take before you start feeling like shit?
Judging by your last comment about it "not hitting the same" my initial thought is that the issue might not even be nutritional, possibly more psychological/subjective.
I end up feeling like absolute garbage.
Maybe, not cooking it well enough? Try changing your recipes, perhaps? Maybe more variety in spices?
Gram, pulses and dried beans (rehydrated before eating) with rice, tend to make my favourite recipes
and even though I use milk products, I feel pretty good even if it is lemonade with black-salt instead.
Don’t know what you’re missing because we don’t know everything you eat
Spinach gives iron so based off the information it’s not that
Maybe a shot of insulin, from the sounds of it.
Every plant is trying to kill you. It doesn't want to be eaten. It especially doesn't want you to eat its seeds. We can detoxify most of the ones that people eat, but it costs
Eating the same plants over again can make you sick
You may not be as good at detoxifying those plants as the people who do well eating them
I know I'm a lot healthier with no plants in my diet than I have been with lots of plants
If I could get us all to protest grocery store prices by eating nothing but staples whenever there is a random price increase I would die happy XD
Rice amd beans is the most important thing on my region's diet. You just can't live without eating it at least once.
YOU ARE A FOOL AND THE REBELLION DEMANDS YOU EAT LAGUMES!
Capitalism demands you eat legumes or go into debt.
The rebellion demands you stay alive how you need to and organize, which in the US means eating cheap proteins as you gotta.
Feel free to ask me questions on how to eat on a budget so you can keep your strength up while organizing against those that wish nothing more for you to work until the day you die and own nothing of consequence!
Man where were you 8 years ago when I ate zero protein because I didn't know it could be cheap. Couldn't afford animal products and was conditioned to believe those were the only viable source of protein.
Btw I'd like to add textured vegetable protein to the list! It's one of my go-tos nowadays.
I grew up a similar way! My mom always referred to protein as meat. Needed to add chicken or beef or pork to be the "protein" to make a dinner complete.
Never mind it being cheese or bean based, meaning it had tons of protein.
I would have to do the math on TVP on if it's a better source of protein per buck than like split peas. But glad it's working out for you!
Another great one is seitan aka wheat meat, and it’s really cheap if you make it from flour rather than vital wheat gluten. Still pretty cheap if made from vital wheat gluten too.
I like your mission, but I hate your methods. Think more about what you're suggesting.
You'll have to clarify what is wrong with my methods.
What about eating people's cats and allegedly ducks as well? Did you know thousands of pets are euthanized each year? That's all just wasted food.
two conspiracy theories in one! i love that community.
The "red necks" who do road kill specials are just fighting against ground beef being $5/pound (which is somehow after all the subsidies they get in the US)!
I feel like some red neck making fun of is straight up just making fun of folks who found a way to make do and be happy. Like owning your own land with a little pre fab you learned to maintain yourself, and eating lots of hunted game? Good stuff.
This man asking the real questions. As a non-conservative, I try to eat cats and dogs three times a week, and keep lagumes and oats to the other days.
I never touch animal protein, as the fascists plant tracking devices in these creatures! Birds are also a concern, as they aren't real and are really government survailance devices!
"Also, do you really NEED to sleep?"
I have a union and still just scraping by. But if I didn't have the union I'd have drowned by now
Plant based whole foods, the fuel of the rebellion!
I wish I could eat like this - not only for the cost effectiveness, but it'd be better for the environment than meat! Having IBD really sucks. I can only imagine how difficult it is in the US where the medical care is so expensive on top of everything else.
Unionization isn't enough, we need syndicalism. They're like Unions but armed, more organized, more willing to strike and sabotage, and unlike Unions which attempt to hold back the Capitalists Syndicates replace capitalism entirely. Remember, why demand the scraps of the capitalists when we can take the means of production and the complete value of our labor.
Pro life tip: Read theory, join your local socialist or anarchist organization, get involved, strike, sabotage, just make sure to organize
"Hey won't this get us banned... oh right, ML!"
If they bring armed thugs to the strikes, only fair if strikers do as well. Negotiation only happens between parties on equal footing.
Every striker should be armed, the workers must have the power advantage over the capitalists
Syndicalism is nice, but without a solid analysis of Imperialism it risks taking on a Nationalist character if you're in the Imperial Core. Additionally, if you're in a de-industrialized nation like the United States, worker organization is more difficult along union lines, which is partially why Unions have historically struggled in the United States in recent years.
100% agree on reading theory and joining an org, just wanted to add some caveats.
That duck is looking pretty tasty right about now.
Hey if you have a legal place to hunt, go wild!
Buying anything but the cheapest of meats these days is eye watering. I'm not one for hunting, but I keep debating going foraging since I live near mountains in Utah. Spend the day hiking in nice weather and end the day with food you normally wouldn't have? Sounds like a good day.
Just posted this a bit ago:
"Sean Aloysius O'Brien... They fished his body out of the Allegheny river a week before the strike ended. Thirty two bullets he had in him. Or was it thirty four?" -Miles O'brien
Damn, do you think he worked for Boeing
What's the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?
Mmm, delicious advice duck ... is telling me to eat the rich?
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Welp, who am I to question it's wisdom, must be the right thing to do.
I can buy oats and flour on the cheap around here, but chickpeas and dried beans? That's very quickly sounding like $10 a day.
Bruh how? You can get kilograms of dried beans for $10.
It's more expensive for canned beans but for $10 are you eating 5 cans of organic beans a day?
Maybe chickpeas are expensive where you live, or maybe you miscalculated. Either way, take a look at my numbers for comparison.
We can get a 3.63kg bag of chickpeas here for $7.49 (CAD). Assuming you fulfill all your Calorie and protein needs from chickpeas alone (2500 Calories and 150g protein per day), it comes out to about $600/year. That's $1.64/day. In order to be $10/day, you'd have to pay 6x as much for your chickpeas, so that same 3.63kg bag would have to cost $45.50.
I live in Denmark.
Where are you buying dried beans?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BBVFBGW?tag=sacapuntas9-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1
These are 1.28 a pound, if you have a winco or costco you can get much cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SHBKHTH?tag=sacapuntas9-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1
These are 2 dollars a pound.
So like you would turn this into hummus and eat it with bread/tortillas you made from flour.
Where potato
I feel like since they are mostly water weight, the math doesn't always look great. But let's go through it!
For example: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag-Whole/10449951?classType=REGULAR&from=/search
10 pounds of food for $3 sounds great, but in a pound there is only 300 calories about, depending on type/peel/etc. So 3,000 calories for 3 dollars. At $1 per 1000 calories it isn't bad.
But let's compare to this 5 pound bag of flour for 2.38, at 3 cents an ounce:
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=flour
A pound of flour has 1,600 calories. So this bag of flour that is cheaper than the potatoes, has 8000 calories for 2.50. But you'll need to put in some elbow grease to make it edible. Doing a sourdough is probably the cheapest way to do it since all you need is flour, water, salt, and the starter you made using flour, but it is more time intensive. So about 3,200 calories for a dollar.
Rice comes in with a very similar amount of calories, but just a little more expensive at 4 cents an ounce:
Rice is a bit easier to turn edible though, so the extra dollar might be worth it for a 5 pound bag. 2,400 calories per dollar spent.
Then oatmeal comes in as our most expensive at 7 cents an ounce.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KV4H51G?tag=sacapuntas9-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1
At once again 1600ish calories for a pound of dry oatmeal, it is 1.12 per pound. So it is creeping up closer to the price of potatoes TBH, and if you were super on a budget the oatmeal would be the first to go. But I suppose potatoes aren't "that" much worse than oatmeal. But my thought was oatmeal is good breakfast option so wanted to include it, and the top bit is mostly setup for bottom.
Knowing this stuff is helpful to our daily lives because rich people hate us.
I think you need to include energy cost in the preparation stage. Bread requires a hot oven, which is a real amount of electricity --- it's close to $0.40/kWh where I live. From this link it says that a bread maker uses only .36kWh, but an electric oven would be more like 1.6kWh. So bakita single loaf of bread, you end up with a not insubstantial fraction of the total cost going to heating the oven.
Of course, many bulk foods require heat, so it gets a little sticky this way. Oats/oatmeal probably wins out here, as you can just soak them overnight.
I'm sure all of this is correct, but you're forgetting one thing: potatoes are the only one of these you can grow enough of to eat at home, as long as you have space for a bucket or sack or two of soil, and which basically require zero processing aside from applying heat to consume.
I agree with you that we shouldn't actually need to know or use any of this information, and as a poor disabled person I also know that growing your own food isn't always an option for everyone, but if it is an option, I think it at the very least puts potatoes back in the running.
I'm thinking about this too much now. Maybe tortillas would be the best bet? Or at least cheaper than bread. Also tortillas go great with lots of different cooked beans and cheap as dirt spices.
When we're talking about a penny per ounce in savings, math gets angry.
Could maybe pepper gravy over rice be the best bet?
Every time I cook rice it comes out bad. Tips? I'd like to be able to make edible rice without purchasing an appliance. Movies and history tell me this is possible??
It's possible but the cheapest rice cooker is going to be more consistent than a seasoned pro. I can cook rice fairly well without a cooker but 1 out of 10 times it's awful.
I'm seriously baffled by the amount of people in this thread having issues with something as simple as boiling plain rice. What the hell, its not fucking rocket science. Do you have trouble boiling pasta too!?
I love my Instant Pot. You can probably find used ones now. It makes perfect rice and I use it to make oatmeal from steel cut oats nearly every morning. I also use it to steam vegetables like broccoli, especially potatoes for when I make mashed potatoes.
Seconded. Great rice. Excellent flexible do-everything-reasonably-well appliance.
Just get a rice cooker. It's worth it.
This. It is absolutely worthwhile and a cheap one uses incredibly rudimentary technology to the point it could and will be reinvented post-apocalypse
Rinsing rice does wonders. Without a rice cooker you'll need to strain it, but it's still worth it.
We made rice for years using this method and it is a very reliable cooking method. Rice doesn't really leave you a lot of wiggle room though, which is where a rice cooker comes in handy. As an added bonus, some rice cookers come with water lines in them. I measure my dry rice into the cooker, rinse using the cooker, dump most of the water out, and fill to the appropriate level.
Different species of rice have very different textures and somewhat (subtle) different flavorss.
Some rice, like basmati, can be cooked using the pasta method (intentionally use way too much water and strain the excess off after the rice is cooked). I guess all rice could be cooked that way, but you would be giving up some starch.
Cooking rice is a notoriously hard problem (and for that reason I recommend noodles instead) but my tip is:
Just turn down the heat when it starts boiling and you won't have any mess at all. Boiling pretty much anything without using a lid is just plain dumb and a waste of energy. The only exception being if the point of boiling is to reduce water content.
I usually eyeball my rice so I use the finger method which is,
Rinse and drain your rice in a sieve first
Add it to the pot and level it off
Put your index finger on top of the rice and add cold water till it touches your first knuckle
Bring to a boil, reduce heat to low and cover until cooked
You can always buy a rice cooker but I think it's good to learn how to cook without specific instruments, it also cuts down clutter in the kitchen.
You can always buy a rice cooker but I think it's good to learn how to cook without specific instruments, it also cuts down clutter in the kitchen.
I take a similar approach, but wanted something better for rice, so I bought an aluminum pot with a ceramic coating on the inside as an alternative to a rice cooker. Does a great job with rice and can be used for many other things as it is a normal pot/dutch oven.
Jasmine rice. Makes a huge difference if you like white rice. Tastes like from a restaurant and pleasantly sticky.
If it helps, you can think of a rice cooker as a "boil under all the water is gone" hotplate. They're great for soups.
It's possible, the secret ingredient is keeping an eye on it.
Measure one cup of rice, whatever the volume of the cup is now add double the amount of water and bring to a boil. Once it starts boiling lower the heat.
Here comes the secret ingredient, keep an eye on it. You'll soon notice it's not as watery anymore, but you still see bubbling. Stir and check it's not getting stuck to the bottom. When you see the water is practically gone, remove from the heat and cover pot with lid. Let rest for 5 mins.
Done, perfect rice!
If it's starting to get stuck to the bottom, removing and letting it rest with a lid on for a few minutes usually helps in unsticking it and making it fluffier.
If you didn't keep an eye on it well enough and it's burning at the bottom, remove immediately and transfer as much of the unburnt rice to another pot, cover and let it rest. (Add water to the burnt bottom in the original pot and cover as well, it will help with the cleaning)
I have better luck with a pot on the stove than a rice cooker. Start with some olive oil, add the rice, add water so the water line is 1cm above the rice line. High heat. Stir occasionally. Once it's at a full boil, give it a final stir, turn down to low and put a lid on it. Let sit for 10 min. Turn stove off. Serve with butter, pepper, salt. Boom.
This is for white rice btw.
Add rice and water in a 1:2 ratio (by volume, eg. 2dl rice to 4dl water for 3-4 people), add salt and heat to a boil. When it boils, turn down heat so it only just simmers slightly and wait until no excess water is left. Keep the lid on the whole time. This method works with jasmin and basmati white rice for me.
Cook on lowest heat. Check in 20 minutes. If dry, add water. If watery, drain the excess or continue cooking into porridge.
Plain white basmati rice.
One cup rice. If it’s not washed, wash it.
2 1/4 cups water.
1 heaping teaspoon salt.
Put rice, salt, and water in pot.
Bring to boil. Stir a little to keep rice from sticking too much.
Soon as it boils, take off heat, put heat to low, then put pot back on heat and put a lid on it.
~ 20 minutes later, check. Should not be any water in the bottom of the pot. If no water, eat!
Even if it says it's washed, wash it anyways. Starches rub off from the grains moving against each other in the bag.
Ok. Let's do this! If you have a 4 cup pyrex/microwavable measuring cup, it is much easier.
After 20 minutes or so, you can do a real quick check and if it looks kind of wet, throw the lid back on and wait.
At this point, you should have perfectly acceptable rice. Take the lid off, stir the rice with a more folding motion to let it steam any additional moisture out.
I cook rice without a rice cooker all the time, and some of the tips you're getting seem dubious to me. Rice is pretty forgiving though, so maybe those recipes work, but I do it a bit different.
I treat all species of rice exactly the same, and they all come out perfect. Short/medium grain rice comes out just sticky enough so you can grab chunks of it with chopsticks, long grain rice comes out beautifully fluffy, no stickage, with all the grains nicely separated.
I use a 1:1 rice to water ratio, plus an extra quarter cup of water. That bit is important - the extra quarter cup is what evaporates off and escapes as it boils/simmers, the rest is absorbed into the rice. Doesn't matter if I'm cooking one cup of rice or ten, I use an equal amount of water plus a quarter cup.
I bring the water to a boil first, then dump the rice in. Wash it or don't - I usually don't, and the difference is slight. Once the rice is in, I turn it down to a simmer, put a kitchen towel over the pot, then squish the lid down over the towel, onto the pot. The towel helps make a better seal to trap more of the steam, but without the danger of making a pressure bomb. The towel also prevents condensation from collecting on the lid and dripping into the rice, which can make it soggy towards the end of the cook. I simmer it for 20 minutes, turn off the heat, then let it rest for another 20, with the lid still on. Leave the lid on until after it's rested, or else some steam will escape and your rice might end up "al dente". Once it's rested, take the lid off and stir it to fluff it up a bit, and you're golden.
I've been making it that way for years with several different kinds of rice, and it's worked like a charm for all of em.
Level 1
2 to 1 ratio.
2 cups of water, bring it to a boil 1 cup of rice, add after water is boiling Reduce heat to simmer (simmer is less than medium but higher than just warm, on my stove it goes up to 10, I turn it down to 2.4). Put on lid Wait 20 minutes Eat
If it starts to boil over with the lid on just lift the lid so it will go back down. I add either some oil and salt or some (1 or 2 tblsp) salted butter to the water. People will tell you to rinse the rice first, but that's level 2, get to level 1.
Thank you friend
Two tips, one meme.
A bag of dried chickpeas makes for two weeks worth of hummus.
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Maybe if you're a hummus eating coward!...
Or you get a very big bag....
As long as you remember that without tahini, garlic, olive oil, salt and some lemon juice all you're getting is pureed chickpeas.
Just thinking; maybe if people stop trying to get rid of political target and instead started target billionaires, then maybe, just maybe, the world would be a better place for everyone.
Just thinking.
I guess that's the main problem with billionaires, is we didn't pick any of them, and once they're a super billionaire we can't really do much about them.
Oh don't buy their products? They're invested in everything, most food brands are just different names for the same factories. Oracle billionaire? WTF are you going to do to protest Oracle? Politicians we, are supposed to, pick. Billionaires become billionaires generally by being the worst, then there isn't anything we can do about it.
So we need to get the politicians on our side to keep the billionaires in check... or violent revolution. I'm a pacifist so I like the first one more, but if the majority is up for the second one, I'm not gonna say ya'll are wrong.
Billionaires are a problem, but not the problem. Weath Inequality inherent in the economic system is the real enemy. Billionaires are only a symptom and a lightning rod.
Billionaires are a political target. It's not about forgoing ideology, but having correct ideology.
Did you know that at lemmy, they have special discounts, where you can get two wisdoms for the price of one upvote?
I do love me a good bargain!
Gotta save up enough money so I can buy instead of rent things like the corporate over lords so desperately want me to do!
What is a union?
An arrangement where employees bargain collectively with their employer to have more leverage, usually collecting dues from members to help with things like strikes.
I think it's called a "sindicato" in Portuguese, though in English "syndicate" means something a bit different
I can't eat that many carbs in a day. All the money I save on food would be spent on toilet paper.
You may have an insulin issue. Or a gluten issue.
I also can't eat that many carbs in a day.
Seconded. I would have issues that kept getting worse as I got older. I noticed that whenever I did keto, I felt much better. When I combined it with going gluten free, I felt amazing. Well, dad gets diagnosed with Celiac and my old DNA test results mentioned I was a carrier and more likely to develop it. I haven't had the endoscopy yet, but it's pretty likely. This sucks as I love bread and baking it.
Anyway, if gluten is an issue, rice flour can be used for a lot of things and corn/potato starch is a good thickener (whichever is cheaper where you are).
Are split peas and chickpeas not beans?
You're not wrong! But I felt like some people wouldn't think of split peas, and wanted to call out more than just "beans"
Only slightly related. One weird thing I noticed when moving to Japan is that peanuts and beans were way more expensive than the US. I guess the equivalent here would be moyashi (bean sprouts) and cabbage.
Interesting! What is considered the cheap source of proteins over there? Is it just soy?
soy (in the form of edamame, tofu, and natto) is probably the cheapest option. Eggs are usually next on the list for people over here.
Edit: seafood might or might not be an option before eggs depending upon where one lives. Organ meat as well as we eat heart, liver, etc. a lot here as well.
Read Marx, especially if you don't think you need to.
If the goal of giving budgeting advice is to make people stop demanding better treatment from their employers, it is incredibly malicious.
Unions recommending/setting up carpooling and potlucks while on strike so the money they pay lasts = good
Employers telling you that minimum wage is enough if you just have four room mates and eat nothing but rice and beans = Malicious
I think the malicious mallard is red
Alright colorblind people, It's your time to shine.
Even if it was just the top half, it's still good advice.
Given the situation.
I think people are tired of money saving advice because so much of it is corporate victim blaming, "You do get paid enough! You just are too lazy to work enough hours (We only offer 35 btw), have 3 room mates (Which would be illegal because of zoning laws), and cook your own meals (while also working 60 hours a week)!"
Both are good advice
Is that diet OK for growing kids or just adults?
I have no idea. There is a decent variety of foods that are 1000 calories for a dollar, and maybe combining all of them together is enough variety. But I'm not a doctor.
More variety in your diet is likely to always be superior to less. That goes for both kids and adults. The trouble with younger kids is that deficiencies can impact their development and have more severe long term consequences, and they're also less capable of seeking out foods to fill that gap.
Not even all adults. That diet makes me fart constantly and feel suboptimal.
Well I'm vegetarian
Ducks are delicious and eat the way you describe. If I eat ducks I'm eating those things once removed and enjoying it, too.
Hey man if you have a legal place to hunt, go wild!
Buying anything but the cheapest of meats these days is eye watering.
👂✋ what's that being a radical is being vegan?
We in Slovenia have lunch in school for 3€, it used to be 2 a couple of years ago.
I hate billionaires, but I like steak... I guess they aren't my enemy after all? I guess I'll rethink my life... Maybe they aren't so bad, eh?
It's not about what you like, it's about what you can afford.
If you hate billionaires but like steak, have you tried eating the rich?
The meme only says "if ... then ...". It does not imply the reverse relationship of "if not ... then not ...".
This is really pedantic, but conditionals do imply a specific inverted inference. Specifically in this meme though, the correct inversion is "If the billionaire class is not your enemy, then this budgeting is not relevant to you," which I think we'd both agree with.
There's a caveat:
Don't unions really restrict your salary growth in fields where there's actual potential for it?
I'm in software engineering and I reckon a whole bunch of people would be unhappy if their salary was in a direct relationship with their years of experience.
Though if the gravy train ever ends, I'll be the first to advocate for an union.
No. In Germany the big companies all have unions. You can always try to negotiate for better conditions, but it always has to be at least the union Tarif. If you can show that you are worth more you can get it.
Okay, that's actually a good thing. I've heard unions in the US apparently often restrict individual bargaining, as that would undermine the collective bargaining of the union. So in that case, your coworker who's been working for 20 years, will make twice as much as you do at your 2 years, despite the fact that all he does all day is scratch his balls, while you bust your ass off. And you have no way of earning more than them.
Either way it doesn't affect me because I'm in Estonia and in a field where we generally get paid well enough even without unions. But I also know this won't last forever, because right now there's way too many unemployed software engineers.
Don't unions really restrict your salary growth in fields where there's actual potential for it?
Nope.
I'm in software engineering and I reckon a whole bunch of people would be unhappy if their salary was in a direct relationship with their years of experience.
Why would increasing your bargaining power lower your wages?
If you read my other comment, basically I've heard from other commenters online that some collective bargaining agreements restrict individual bargaining. That would suck. If the union only sets floors instead of absolutes or ranges, that is another thing entirely and something that I'm very much in favor of.