ADHD Rule

I feel that. Without caffeine and anger I would just be a sad, highly compressed ball of sadness and stress and sadness.
- I'm in this comment and I dont like it
  
  It's not just you, don't take all the credit
- I don't get angry, just anxious. I AM that ball of sadness and stress.
  
  Have you tried looking for a wizard to ponder you?
- I left behind the anger about a decade ago and was just sad and tired and anxious until I got medicated about a year ago

I literally made a custom shirt that says "Fueled by caffeine and spite".
- You got an Etsy? Lmao
  
  https://www.canva.com/t-shirts/

This post is forgetting the alcohol
- Gotta calm the nerves some how
  
  Did someone say weed?

Nicotine and generational trauma seems to work, too.

I've been on all kinds of medications from age 7 to 26.
Ritallin sped up my heart and I couldn't keep up in gym class because I was constantly catching my breath.
Concerta/dexadrine took away my appetite. One bite every meal, then I was full. I was pathetically skinny and got called anorexic all the time.
Straterra made me tired and drousy all day, I was sexually frustrated because my dick would REFUSE to get hard, and then I would wake up at night, not being able to sleep.
I'm 31 and madication free for 6 years, and have learned to overcome my ADHD on my own. Never swallowing a other ADHD pill again, fuck that shit entirely.
- Glad you got it under control without the pills that made you feel bad. Happy for you
  
  Thank you!
- I've been on Adderall and Vyvanse for ADHD and binge eating disorder.
  The Vyvanse helps a ton with the binges. My doc had suggested I try Concerta if I'm having a hard time finding Vyvanse this month. I was able to find Vyvanse but I had no idea appetite suppression could be so much in the Concerta. Probably way easier than finding/taking any of those fashionable diet injectables. And generic Vyvanse still gets on backorder....
  Maybe I'll bring up trying that next time.
  
  Do it, if you have a problem with binge eating it could do you wonders. I'm the opposite, even off meds I've always had a hard time gaining weight no matter how much I eat. It's probably the beetus that will get me with how much junk I munch on every time I use cannabis lol. I'm 6'2 170lbs
  
  the meds help with managing your feelings, thats what you did with binge eating. scientists discuss how binge eating and adhd are realated.
- How do you cope?
  
  mountains of powerful cannabis and cheap coffee
  
  Cope with what exactly?
- Oh yeah, three hours of high school swim practice and seven of school without a bite to eat on Concerta. Awful. And I'd stay up til 3 am every night with vyvanse. I'd consider trying something else but I'm 0-2.
- the ritalin issue was probably salt and mineral / vitamin deficency. yeah, you need to eat before taking concerta, people just dont listen ;-)
  
  I took the concerta with my cereal before school as prescribed by my doctor. Lunch I was able to get down my pb&j, but dinner was impossible past the second or third bite
  
  dont think thats the main issue here
- Yeah, fuck life changing medication! White knuckle it like a true american.
  
  I'm not American
  
  Yeah, fuck life changing side effects! White knuckle it like a true american.

I wish I could get diagnosed
- Me too. Wish my wife would understand, when I'm being productive and ... crotchety, its basically never because she's done anything wrong, and forcing me to calm down is going to leave us all disappointed.
  
  I'm sorry for that :/
  
  I frequently disappoint my wife....
  But mainly in the bedroom.
- Is there online tests or something similar to see if you are possibly on the spectrum as they say ?
  You seems to know what you are talking about and I always feel like well yes of course that's how life is.
  
  It’s hard though. A key criteria (at least in the UK) how much it affects you day-to-day. My father probably has it and passed along a lot of guidance that I now recognise as coping mechanisms/symptom management strategies. Day to day I’ve got it in hand, it’s only when the big storms come that I struggle, and that doesn’t fit with the diagnostic approach.
  
  Yes. Lookup raads-r autism test. It's almost as good as a psychiatrist at diagnosing. If you score high there, chances are high a psychiatrist would as well.
- Why can’t you?
  
  Psychiatrists in my area have long waiting lists, and most of them don't even have a website where I can look up if they know anything about ADHD. It takes a lot of willpower for me to get over my anxiety and call even one of them, and naturally it never leads anywhere. It seems like all my mental health problems are working against me making this appointment, and the psychiatrists aren't doing anything to help with the process.

Caffeine makes me sleepy. :(
- Same... It's like 20 minutes of focus and then I need a nap 🤷‍♀️ When I was younger, I'd just inhale energy drinks, but the crashes just kept coming faster and faster.
  
  I get sleepy at around noon no matter what i do. I have medication but it doesn't do shit anymore. I need a nap.
  The ONLY thing that works is if I'm either really busy or really upset. That is the only way i don't feel tired. 😩
- I live by the rule of 200 mg to go slow, 400 mg to go fast.
  
  Yeah, that first pot of coffee is just for lulz and keeps me just coherent long enough for my Adderall to kick in.
- It did this for me until I hit 30, then it just made me up up up and not hungry, now past 50 it feels smooth and I can eat but can't have it in the evening because it will keep me from getting sleepy!

i use weed
- I wish weed helped me but it makes me so much worse.
- Can't fucking stand it. Oh, yeah, make me both completely unable to pay attention to anything and unable to be truly frustrated by that. Don't even get the dopamine people say you're supposed to get more of than the normies, it just makes everything worse.
- It's like a horsekick of a sedative for me. Don't get me wrong it feels nice floating on a bed. But on that day, absolutely nothings gets done.

If you want extra difficulty, I can recommend you Valproic-acid. It's essentially an ADHD worsener, except you're not really allowed to talk about that due to some people showing toxic positivity to psychiatric medication, in this case it's also an anti-seizure medication.

Ah, is that where my anger problems come from?

Caffeine & Daily Exercise & a job that is flexible about how we do things. I have only worked at startups and places that change systems a lot, that seems to suit my nature better somehow.
But my favorite T-shirt says
Whiskey and Yoga

I so badly want to be medicated again. However I'll require yet another diagnosis even though I have 3 throughout the years. Problem is, it's too difficult for me to get all my ducks in a triangle to get the process moving
Anyways I hear meth works pretty much the same plus it's easier to get so yeah imma check that out
- ... Uh.... Your mileage may vary.
  
  Dr's across the Midwest hate this one hack
- Methamphetamine is literally used as a treatment for ADHD. It's also fairly easy to get a hold of amphetamine on the darknet which is used in things like Adderall. It honestly isn't that bad of an idea to try amphetamine or even methamphetamine if you actually know the correct dosage range. Recreational users would typically start at a higher dosage than someone looking for medicinal effects. Over time though medical users can end up on a similar dosage to a recreational user due to tolerance.
  
  This isnt a good thing like you think it is
  
  The problem is that the purity of the drug you're getting is not guaranteed or regulated at all. For a lot of recreational/street drugs, the bigger problem is often the filler and crap they get cut with. If you're paying enough for actually reliably pure drugs, you might as well just pay out of pocket for the psychiatrist and avoid the risk of drug charges.

Wonder how the rate of undiagnosed ADHD is...
- Too damn high.
  
  Last guesstimate I saw was something like 10% of the population in total. Which is pretty reasonable as a population adaptation that outlived its usefulness.
- probably high, and the rate of unwarrented diagnoses also must be high. and people that get misdiagnosed as bipolar. borderline, and binge eaters. must be high among women, as far as i understood.
  met one chick that was clear as day 100 % adhd, I sniffed that out the second time i met her. they said she was bipolar and put her on bipolar meds she absolutely hated to take.
  i tried to explain it to hear, and had to give it up, she was in total adhd denial,. and i knew it was pointless.
  if you would need a picture for an adhd book, you would take her. everything fit, she also had a chaotic raging alcolholic as father, and would self medicate with canabis and alcohol.

nothing helped me in life like ritalin and elvanse did.
ritalin speaks to me.
- Ritalin was the worst one for me; gave me headaches and was a little too "unstable" or "rough" for me. Elvanse, on the other hand, has been my favorite... smooth as butter. Thinking about switching now that they have a generic version that my insurance will probably cover
  
  I found out that my headaches were du to high insuline resistance. took me two years to get that under control, i dont have headaches anymore, lost weight, look way younger in the face.
  i am not saying YOU have the same problem, i am only describing why I had headaches.

Caffeine, anger, and a commitment to the bit.

Huh, so THAT's the reason why I listen to so much Punk Rock

AuDHD and completely caffeine free (and stimulant/meds/drugs free too). Caffeine definitely doesn't work for me like it does for other people - makes me sleepy and headachey. I'd rather just work with what I've got, (noise cancelling headphones + being inflexible) even if it has limitations
- Same, also makes me shit myself
- i just quit coffee. was way harder than quitting smoking and alcohol. i am not sure. i have the impression that my nose is less congested, and i am more up beat in the morning.

I wish I could afford therapy.
My health insurance only pays for 2 psych vists/y. This is in "socialist utopia" W-EUR.
We shouldn't mock the US healthcare system, ours is only marginally better.
You wanna know something cool though? If I was alcoholic instead of depressed, I could get help for free.
I hate this entire world and every human being on it, and my parents most of all for bringing me into it.
- This might be a bit sensitive of a question to ask, but what country are you in? Because I've lived in several western European countries and the access to healthcare wildly varies between them. Especially countries that've "enjoyed" a multitude of conservative/right wing governments over the past three decades seem to have really embraced enshittifying healthcare access and affordability while pushing an American-style private system as the "solution".
  
  Flanders, Belgium. We've been ruled by right-wing austerity hawks for a good decade now, so you hit the nail on the head.
- A psychologist/psychiatrist is not a therapist, it's a very different pay grade.
  A therapist will usually consult with a psychologist to get you recommendations, and will help you work through your ADHD. It may take a couple of attempts to get a good one, though.
- You wanna know something cool though? If I was alcoholic instead of depressed, I could get help for free.
  Okay? It's objectively a good thing for alcoholics to get help. Getting equal care for other issues is the goal.
  Don't be a crab in the bucket.
- The difference is less that it's in some circumstances only marginally better. Rather, it's more that when you advocate for better coverage in EU, the pushback might be more along the lines of "that's too expensive or an inefficient use of highly limited taxpayer dollars, but I'm open to continuing to evaluate the impact and economics of it". In the US, sometimes the pushback is "you don't like it? Then GTFO, you communist traitor!"

Caffeine worsens my existential panics, so I got that going for me, which is not nice.

Until you either crash or die of a heart attack.
- Unrelenting anger can counter attack the heart and nullify it /s
  
  lol sounds like whoever created this would actually believe that

What's up with the hardhat and glasses on Mac here?
- He's an electrician
  
  And is that related to adhd?

I'm pretty much in this camp.
I've tried some of the stimulant treatments, but they leave me feeling completely wrung out by the end of my shift. And being on that stuff for more than 12+ hours just seems like a recipe for heart disease.
- doesnt work for shit without eating. people also are on way to high dosage. well, it does work, but it really takes a toll if you are not eating right.