What are the biggest red flags when talking with a Trek "fan"?

The Cage is peak trek

Never accepted Kirk and those after as real trek

You're fooling yourself if you don't want to see the sharp decrease in quality post DS9. The best Trek series of the last 25 years is Orville ffs

I don’t mind the Kelvin films. Karl Urban as Bones makes it all worth while.

They’re just popcorn flicks. Watch or don’t watch and it’s not like the Star Trek Universe is altered in any way. (Also, those movies are better than everything after Wrath of Khan, movie-wise)

I've taken to the term 3rd-wave Trek for the 2010s-present shows to identify the stylistic differences in production compared to shows made in the 80s-90s or 60s.

Each era is molded by the media conventions of it's time. And there I go reinventing Marshal McLuhan again: "the medium is the message"

What's the face for anyone who remembers that by TOS canon, the greek god Apollo is real and just got bored of Earth and fucked off to another planet?

I don't really like any Trek past DS9 Don't hate me

If it doesn't have 20+ episode seasons it's nutrek

"I wish they hadn't gone and made Star Trek political!"

Nu Trek is, to me, just the kelvin shit. The new shows on CBS are legit, especially lower decks.

It's a massive, massive red flag when someone goes the "Terran Empire/Section 31 did nothing wrong" route.

It's very common in zone chat on Star Trek Online. Some fascists just hang around Earth Spacedock all day there, posting nonstop fascist screeds, and if they're ever actually out in their ships, without fail it's "ISS" prefix with names like "AYN RAND."

Disclaimer: Yes some people play bad guys in their games, but I don't think just playing the part involves hours-long rants about why the (slurs here) need to be wiped out in zone chats.

EDIT: I think I'll add "fervent Discovery apologists, especially ones that stan for space fascists after contrived apology arcs," if only because of their repeated tendency to feel very smart to the point of undue arrogance about contrived "what if mass murdering dictators... actually good once the protagonist buddies up with them?" bad writing cliches.

maybe I've consumed more and more scifi over the years to compare to or maybe the later releases of trek have lowered the average in my mind but I can't help but see trek in general as solidly mid now

Based on a real situation I encountered once: Normal Star Trek Fan: Yeh, I like Seven of Nine.

“Red flag” Star Trek Fan: I like Seven of Nine.

What if I say all trek is both NuTrek and OldTrek because accidental time travel

I like NuMetal tbh

Both panels are acceptable and objectively correct.

I mean, technically everything from TNG onwards would be NuTrek and Kelvin-stuff would be NuNuTrek, or rather Re-Trek, since it's a reboot.

Broke: Discovery is NuTrek

Woke: Voyager is NuTrek

Bespoke: TNG is NuTrek

I will always have a special place in my heart for the Kevin timeline because it was my gateway drug to the good stuff. I wound up watching all of Star Trek in chronical order enterprise to Voyager.

I didn't really like TOS (except the movies, those were great) was a big TNG fan (not the movies though, didn't like those), I loved DS9, I was okay with Voyager and basically did not care for anything after, except maybe Lower Decks? Haven't seen SNW yet, will give it a try.

But all of that is just like, my opinion man, you go watch whatever gives you the good feels, I'll not police your opinion.

Except if you like Discovery-Klingons, liking those makes you a garbage-human!🚩

Oh no, it doesnt mean New Trek. I have comments to go edit.

One, you mean e.g., not i.e.

Two, that's super not what nu-metal was about. It was extremely targeted to an audience of edgelord teenagers.

There's NuTrek and there's new trek, one is bad and one is after your favorite series. It's a rectangles and squares situation

Why is so much of memes nowadays just people claiming to be better then everyone else? I had assumed the trek fans were less of snobs than this. Not only does this insult fellow trek fans but metal fans in the process. If this community is the only thing holding lemmy togther, i guess i don't need to be on the internet anymore.