A new country in the world!

That emblem brings this from a solid B+ flag to F-
Its not a bad design, but those don't belong on flags.
- I personally like emblems, icons and heraldry on flags. Without them, flags are often enough just bars of colors.
- Without it many personal wouldn't have recognized that it's not the original flag.
  
  Intresting. I'll be honest, I have zero knowlage about the new flag or the nation (which I should fix...)
  I just judged the flag as a flag.
- I agree. It could work if the emblem was simplified, but it's a bit too complex right now. Not F- level though, I'd say C; the colours are unique with meaning, and the icon in the middle is striking and recognizable.
  
  I agree. There are way too many clashing colors. It would be better if they reduced the number of colors. I could even go with reduced colors and the crest.

History repeating as a farce.

The amount of pro RuSSia people here that want to get a free pass in the meat grinder, can someone call Russia to get these highly motivated soldiers to the front line?
- It's just so baffling, they're all from lemmy.ml defending Putin's invasion. Modern Russia isn't even ML, the USSR is gone. It's only "America bad" that's driving their alignment with Russia at this point, isn't it? Or they're a troll factory. Or under the influence of Russian propaganda. Probably people from all of those.
  
  Tell me you haven't heard of revolutionary defeatism without telling me you haven't heard of revolutionary defeatism
  
  What no theory does to a mf
  
  True, if thia were WW2 they would be non ironically saying for the allies to surrender to the Nazi, Soviets and fascists, to "prevent deaths"

If not "in the world," then where?
- You don't know about it?
  
  Shh, they don't know about Nill Island.

Liberating them from nazi occupation

The one on the left is an Israeli shithead. She was born in the USA. Fuck zionists.
- I mean, she did post a video where's laughing at a comedian doing a routine that was making jokes about the conflict... and she was also part of the crowd that warned against the rise of antisemitism due to the conflict...
  But also it's just random racism to point that out apparently.
  
  My beef is with people who stole land from Palestinians and advocate genocide, not Jewish people. By moving to Israel from the USA she took a side.
- Schut up and get in line.

In a meme with famed Zionist Myriam Bialik.
- A meme really not about that mentioned topic.
  (= I couldn't care less.)

Why would they put an emblem with nazi affiliations, that is Ukraine specific, on their flag?
- Get in line.

Reminder that the ukrainian tryzub is fascist [2] symbolism.
- Symbols have more than one meaning… The word “fascism” comes from one of these symbols: the Fasces. However the fasces are still used by France:
  Or by the US:
  Are these countries fascists just because they use the Fasces? Of course not. They have other meanings. It's the same with this Ukrainian symbol.
  
  Are these countries fascists just because they use the Fasces?
  yes
  
  are u implying that the amerikkkan empire, the country created to steal land and genocide and preserve slavery the country that bankrolls fascists everywhere, the country that does everything it can to oppress working people not only within its borders but outside them, an oligarchy where the head of state is selected by rich oligarchs and has near limitless political power, ISNT fascists. Amerikkka IS fascism it is the very template that the original fascists and the nazis based their designs on.
  
  The difference is that at the time the fasces were adopted they didn't mean fascism. But also, coincidentally, the US and France are fascist.
- No, it's the national symbol of Ukraine.
  Fascists love to try to co-opt national symbolism, and sometimes they succeed, but ceding ownership of a 1000 year old symbol (it was used as a seal in Kievan Rus) because some assholes adopted it in 1993 is just letting the fascists win.
- What are you talking about? It's the coat of arms. It's a symbol since 1918, when fascism didn't even exist yet. Some nationalistic fascist organization using national symbols isn't news, and it doesn't mean fascists exclusively own it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Ukraine
  Edit: oh sorry everyone, didn't see it was a lemmy.ml user. Block and move on 🤷‍♂️
  
  i guess when u see a flag flying a swastika u are like "probably not nazis after all there are many other people who used to use that symbol in the past", and u know why that is? its because u are lib and as we all know scratch a lib...
- Reminder that your are a lunatic. Use of tryzub as a national/statehood symbol dates back to about a thousand years ago, roughly to the Viking age.
  Moreover, even the link that you quote doesn't say what you say it says.

Congratulations to the "good guys", you sacrificed thousands of Ukrainians but now you have funny memes about Kursk, so it was definitely worth it.
- Fuck the imperialist russian state. They had an invasion coming the moment they invaded and annexed crimea.
  
  Okay, you hate Russia.
  But why do you hate Ukrainians? Why do we have to die for your grudge with Russia?
- The only one killing Ukrainians is Russia pig
- Lots of Russians died too, so as far as they're concerned it's a win.
  
  they could have surrendered just like the other Russians did.
  
  Not "lots of", more Russian soldiers died than Ukrainians, as is typical for this conflict.
  
  Yeah, it's really convenient when you can force other people to fight and die for your war..
- The West offered Zelensky a way out and to give up the moment the war started. He and his country refused and asked for weapons to defend themselves against a tyrant that will never stop. How exactly did the west force Ukraine to fight?
  
  The West offered Zelwnsky a way out and to give up the moment the war started.
  What? The west (and especially Boris Johnson) encouraged Zelensky to fight and encouraged him to drop the peace proposal (which included Russia going back to pre-2022 invasion borders!).
  He and his country refused
  Just "He".
  How exactly did the west force Ukraine to fight?
  The west supports Zelensky's regime, which kidnaps people on the streets and sends them to die.
  
  is this what the lastest stage of a copium addiction looks like?