12mo ago

Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities

The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

	Community Count	Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org	6	133450
hexbear.net	33	663204
lemdro.id	1	17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com	1	53006
lemmy.ml	14	356460
lemmy.one	1	16257
lemmy.world	39	851950
lemmynsfw.com	2	33586
sh.itjust.works	1	16006
sopuli.xyz	1	14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as "suspicious")

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

	Community Count	Community Active Month Count
awful.systems	1	2616
feddit.org	2	7363
feddit.uk	2	5289
hexbear.net	1	2952
lemdro.id	1	2898
lemm.ee	3	8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	11422
lemmy.ca	3	14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com	3	13752
lemmy.ml	10	54949
lemmy.world	57	338384
lemmy.wtf	1	3602
lemmy.zip	3	12020
mander.xyz	1	11469
sh.itjust.works	5	37365
slrpnk.net	3	10897
sopuli.xyz	2	10070
ttrpg.network	1	4107

Community Count:

Community Users:

428 comments

I knew hexbear was big but not that big
- Yeah I can’t say I was bothered when LW defederated. I’ve gotten in way fewer stupid arguments since they did the same with Lemmygrad. IIRC LW didn’t even let hexbear federate in the first place.
  
  You're not really using the fediverse until you've been told that you'll get the bullet, too. Sometimes, it's exhausting commenting something pretty uncontroversial and then seeing like eight notifications and realizing it was on Hexbear.
  
  That's why I'm glad my instance blocked them.
  
  I mean, I don't know enough about North Korea here but Lenin decriminalized homosexuality in like 1920. Stalin recriminalized it in 1932-33 but for a bit there the Soviet Union was the most LGBT friendly country in the world.
  
  Bro my instance just defederated them. Happy to say I've never seen their shit
  
  I cannot facepalm hard enough when I see lgbt people (or anyone) who praise western genocidal military alliances either. What's your point?
- ~~They have less than 500 MAU~~. It’s just a bunch of losers yelling at each other.
  Correction, updated data is actually closer to 2k MAU. They are the 4th most active instance, topped by lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, and Lemmy.world.
  
  Interesting, I expected them to be much larger
- My guess is that they just needed to have their own community for a lot of stuff because so many instances are defederated from them. Though I am not sure...
  
  Or because it's older than most of the other instances
  
  I guess it's also natural that subcultures that tend to be banned elsewhere are early adaptors of alternative platforms.
  We're lucky we didn't exist when the Trump extremists on Reddit went looking for a new home, or they would probably have been one of the biggest fields in this figure. Hopefully when the right wing extremists arrive instance admins will have the good sense to defederate.
  
  If I remember correctly, Hexbear was there before the exodus. So that wouldn't make sense.
  
  That's probably it
  
  like Beehaw
- They’ve existed for a while. A lot of subscribers are inactive users. Kind of like reddit where a sub can have 5k people and still be inactive.
- It's less that they're big, but old.
- I haven't even heard of it xd
  
  I only scroll all for now... Hexbear is the only thing I have blocked. I just got tired of trolly garbage.
  
  Most instances block them so most communities on those instances won't see them either. Once you find certain communities on instances that don't block them you suddenly see half the comments being from hexbear, which likely quickly makes you block those communities fairly quickly.
  
  . world is defederated with hexbear iirc
- What is hexbear? I never see it in my feed.
  
  Your instance is defederated from them
  
  Think of it as the Tankie version of The Donald.
  
  It's essentially where reddit's old Chapo Trap House community went after reddit banned them in 2020. It started federating with the rest of the fediverse some time last year, but there was a bit of a culture clash between it and some other larger instances and several of them defederated it
  
  I only know it because it is often mentioned when talking about trolling
  
  It's an instance mostly based around authoritarian communism. They got banished from Reddit quite a bit before the black out.
  
  It’s a leftist server. LW defederated from them months ago because they have some, well, interesting takes on things like the war in Ukraine. I can’t recall the exact cited reasons for defederation but I’m sure you could find the defederation post on lemmy world’s announcements page.
- Gab also was big, but its role for the fediverse wasn't.
  
  Who or what is/was Gab? 😅
- Not really surprising. 10 out of the 10 most commented posts in the past year are on hexbear (the top 2 being the weekly trans mega threads). Granted, a lot of that is just the hyper-active posting of a few users. Regardless, if you want a trans community, there's basically no active alternative to hexbear's traaa here.
  
  What about blahaj?
- OFL, what is going on with this hexbear? And is there any reason behind the name?
  
  And is there any reason behind the name? A bear, but hexagon shaped, is their mascot.
Active users is the standard metric used to check how much a service is used (at least as far as i know. its what i see when i look at stuff published for investors).
hexbar is on the sixth place in term of number of active users with 1.8K , lemmy.world is 18K (enable the "active users" column and sort by it to see the full list)
- Always nice to see lemmynsfw doing well. Those guys are going to bring a lot of people here
  
  I couldn't imagine being a moderator there, the amount of shit they must see uploaded has to be enormous. This would apply to every media-oriented instance but due to their nature I am guessing it's worse
  
  It would be the hardest thing to moderate if lemmy blows up though.
  
  I think it is odd that they have no community in the top 100 anymore when sorted by active users
  
  Do they even have original posters? I thought it was just onlyfans farmers reposting their Reddit content.
  
  Quality over quantity is what I would prefer. I think LemmyNSFW is a potential determent for other instances.
- It's a real mystery, where could these instances possibly be located?
  (apologies for derailing, I don't know where else to post this)
  
  "Private" in these fedi-surveys are just a complicated way of saying "behind Cloudflare" without saying behind Cloudflare for some reason.
  
  Pretty sure lemmy.ca is hosted in Canada
- I added it to the main post :) And yeah should have done so in the initial post as well...
  
  Thanks!
- Lemmy.world has no lock in on their "power". They have the most volunteer labor, money, and infrastructure. That's makes them stable, so people aren't worried about their data suddenly going offline (like kbin) and they don't worry about the service being flaky.
  
  The same can be said about gmail and it is the same kind of problem here. Yes lemmy.world is not a profit orient it giant, but it is still a problem when one actor has this power over a federated network. (the scale of the problem is of course a lot larger with gmail)
  
  While spreading out is good, this isn't something like cryptocurrency where it's specifically bad if you have over 50% share. Each instance is the source of truth for their users and communities hosted there. It's not like a block chain where something with over half can suddenly define their own truth for everyone. So it's not necessarily a massive cause for alarm.
- When you enter "how to join Lemmy" in search engines one of the first results is this Reddit thread, which explicitly suggests people join Lemmyworld.
  In fact, when I point people to Lemmy via Reddit, I use that post also because that suggestion actually makes it way more approachable. I think most people, myself included, are intimidated by multiple servers and feel like they're "intruding" into private spaces. The size of Lemmyworld might help people feel like it's more anonymous and a little easier to join as a result, especially since they are being asked to wait for "approval", which is pretty unusual on the modern Net, let's be honest.
- The problem is most likely people that are new to the fediverse/lemmy just not understanding it and choosing a "default", popular instance. I was going to pick it as a safe option when I first came here but it was under load and wasn't accepting new users, where I then had to find another instance and settled on feddit.uk.
  It would be good if lemmy instances could have the option of "load balancing" new users, so if the current instance has way more active users than it's federated wtih then it disables registration but recommends other, smaller instances to the user.
  
  We just need a way to make it easy to seamlessly transfer both users and communities to another instance then it really won't matter if one gets disproportionately large because a shutdown won't affect anything. Ideally the inner workings should be as invisible to the end user as possible.
  
  Great to have you with us. 👍
- .ml and hexbear have been around much longer than the other instances so have built up more subscribers
- I started on a small instance that fortunately gave a heads up when they decided to shut down. When I moved to a second, small instance where I ported all my community subscriptions, it shut down with no warning. It's a shame, because both instances were topically-focused and small enough to avoid defederation drama.
  I love the idea of decentralized infrastructure, but now I'm on .world because I just don't have the time or willpower to move every few months, and I definitely don't have the wherewithal to run my own instance.
  
  Try searching for a local community, especially if English is not your first language.
- There's a bit of choice paralasys when joining Lemmy. Even if you know how the fediverse works you won't have knowledge of the culture and relationships of different instances.
  I joined Lemmy.world because it advertises itself as the vanilla flavour of the fediverse, so it makes it an easy pick for someone like me who didn't quite understand how it all hangs together.
  But I do agree with you, and I'm looking to migrate ~~after some concerning things have come up about the lemmy.world owner~~.
  Edit: confused the owner of lemmy.world and lemmy.ml.
  
  The choice paralysis is real. I chose lemm.ee because it was easy to type into the address bar, and I've stuck around because the admin seems pretty level-headed.
  
  Haven't heard anything so far, what are they?
  
  But I do agree with you, and I’m looking to migrate after some concerning things have come up about the lemmy.world owner.
  Lemm.ee should fit your bill
- Definitely
- I mean the first problem went away when I sorted the communities by active users, though the second one got way worse with it XD
  
  As someone out of the loop, why is hexbear bad? Alternatively, what is hexbear about?
- Sure, but getting people on a fediverse platform is still good.
- that's the main reason I moved away from lemmy.world
Surprised I dont see programming.dev in the data, we definitely have at least 3 communities in the top 100 (programmer_humor, programming, linux)
- Manually counted communities in the top 100 per instance and threw it into another pie chart (for active users / month)
  This also seems to be different than the results gotten from lemmyverse as the lemmyverse data hasnt been updated in 11 days according to that site
  A bunch of instances gained or lost some coms in the top 100 from variance of things happening in the last week
  (the eight instances that it decided to not give labels to that have 1 community are feddit.uk, lemmy.zip, beehaw.org, lemdro.id, ttrpg.network, lemmy.wtf, lemmy.blahaj.zone, mander.xyz)
  edit: updated graph to be more accurate users/month counts
  
  What do you mean by "manually counted"? And what did you use to generate the chart? Is that a Google API?
  
  Eyyyyy midwest.social!
- In this list it doesn't seem like it: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month
  
  Seems like lemmyverse doesnt have the instance listed at all for some reason, assuming a crawling issue. I reported it on their repository. Would be new since I remember it showing the instance before
  You can check in https://programming.dev/communities that programmer humor has way more active users than most communities here
And here the diagram by community subscriber count:
- Nearly but not exactly :D
- Could you please do it based on monthly active users?
  
  Oh that would be interesting as well. I will do that. Checking back in 2h :D
  
  Lemmy.world gets A LOT bigger this way XD
I think subscriber count is probably not ideal. I've seen communities where the number subscribers is 10x the number of active monthly users.
For other communities, subscribers is about equal to active users.
Based on Monthly active users, the picture is different: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month
You already see a 4 sh.itjust.works community, a lemmy.ca community, a lemmy.zip community just from the top 30
I might as well leave lemmy.world
I'm only concerned about how to transfer all my stuff to the new account. Mastodon makes it super easy.
- You can only export and import followed communities afaik
  
  Mastodon doesn't allow to transfer posts either
  https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#move
  Your posts will not be moved, due to technical limitations.
- Idk if you can transfer likes comments and posts, but you can go to your old account from a new one and star everything with the new account pretty easily. So that at least can transfer.
  
  Mastodon doesn't allow to transfer posts either
  https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#move
  Your posts will not be moved, due to technical limitations.
You didn't use a black color for us? Heresy!
- My deepest apologies milord 🙏 I promise to do better next time * leaves the throne room backwarss while bowing *
  
  You must be confused, we don't have a king, just pirates and anarchists 😁
  
  We're anarchists, we don't have a king, we strongly oppose centralized power in the hands of one powerful leader
Probably unintended side-effect of this post: A few people like me discovering new communities to follow. Thank you!
Poor lemm.ee
- Nah I’d say this is right on par with the philosophy of the instance. Lemm.ee is moreso infrastructure for interacting with the fediverse than a specific community
  
  Yes, the most active communities (https://lemm.ee/communities) are
  !movies@lemm.ee
  !interestingasfuck@lemm.ee
  !casualconversation@lemm.ee
  All started by different people than the admin, who is indeed quite hands back regarding communities
  
  We are small af. I think we are mostly just overflow .world users.
anyone have any guesses as to why lemmy.world is so big? Scale/size advantage? Reliability advantage? Name recognition? What do we think is the culprit here.
And whilst i'm here, anybody want to explain the source of lemmy.ml to me? I only know it as the instance where mad people yell at me from lol.
perhaps a more "ambiguous" federation system would be better. having community instances is nice and all, but having one literally just be lemmy.world seems a little bit antithetical to me.
- Lemmy.world has kept open signups open during every large Reddit exodus while many others didn't. It's also decently reliable, has decent moderation and is well known. The reason why people didn't move after is probably because instance migration on Lemmy isn't possible* so they just stick with what they use.
  *Yes I don't consider exporting/importing followed communities a migration
  
  Open signups is the biggest reason. Pretty much every other instance wanted you to jump through hoops to sign up with them.
  
  Lemmy.world has kept open signups open during every large Reddit exodus
  I'm pretty sure they put up some hurdles during the Reddit APIcalypse. I think that's in part how I ended up on sh.itjust.works.
- I heard what lemmy is. I googled Lemmy. I downloaded an app. I pressed sign up. I ended up on Lemmy.world.
  I'll be honest I don't even really understand what different instances do.
  
  They can be oriented to some type of content: For example, the many feddit.something are targetting people by countries or langages (.it, .uk, etc.). slrpnk.net is solarpunk oriented, mander.xyz science oriented. Litterature.cafe is books, reading and writing oriented.
  And they can offer different moderation policies: People on lemmynsfw.com probably want to see NSFW content. lemmy.world has a policy against it. lemmy.dbzer0.com allow for open discussion about piracy that many instances forbid and so on.
  It you don't see the difference in instances, it is probably that you are about fine on your local instance. But if one day, you hear about a community you can't access, maybe that is because it is blocked by lemmy.word and you could access it from another instance
  
  Yeah I actually tried beehaw initially but they never dealt with my application, so after a whole I just went with Lemmy.world.
  
  an instance can be thought of like a reigonal server for a game, but for a community interest instead. dbzer0 is more on the fringes partaking more actively in piracy and AI shit, as well as other shit like anarchy and personal liberty/freedoms at a more broad scale.
  Sometimes they're regionally specific, like the midwest instance, other times they're global like the .world instance.
  you do have instance specific communities, and users obviously, but it's also open to the broader "fediverse" as well. The only technicality is that i'm tied to dbzer0 since that's where my acc sits, though i can still poke around outside of it.
- About lemmy.world - when running from reddit, it was literally first on the list of advised ones everywhere. Also, biggest, so it had most communities. I am actually pretty much only aware of .world, .dbzer0 and sh.itjust.works. From the normal ones anyway.
  lemmy.ml is basically an instance made by creators of lemmy from what I know.
- If I am not mistaken, ML was made by a couple of Fediverse Developers, but their moderation policies are comparable to Elon Musk so nobody goes there.
  World has good branding, will moderate, and has some of the best uptime stats.
  
  I believe .ml was the first lemmy instance - the one made by the developers.
  
  yeah that would explain ML
- I bounced between a few instances and .world seemed to always be up and available. Not to mention all the communities on .world.
  I don't have an allegiance. Open more communities in other instances or migrate the .world ones there.
  I just want to post.
  
  yeah, personally i'm a user of dbzer0 because i prefer the more back alley stuff (it also bans porn so that shit doesnt show up in my feed)
  It's up most of the time, there are a few instances where it's slow or doesn't want to load, but that's usually resolved quickly enough, just internet instability i think, reddit has the same issues for me.
  I see all the .world shit anyway, so it makes little difference to me at the end of the day lol.
- When I first got on Lemmy I signed up for a small instance my friend was on. Mostly ended up lurking. Before ditching that account, because I forgot the password, and was looking to go to a different instance anyway, I looked up what instances had the most federations. world had a lot, and no hexbear. It also has a old style interface, and blocks NSFW content, so I can more safely browse in public/at work. So I switched to it with my main and then separately logged into places with open NSFW content.
- During the Reddit API exodus I saw it in lots of comments. That's how I ended up here.
  
  yeah that makes sense, i never went there because i didn't want to move to a community specific instance only to join a globally federated instance anyway lol.
- No gatekeeping. We did not have to answer any question, write any essay showing we were worthy etc.
  Reddit refugees were welcome no question asked.
  Once were in, we found the admin/founder to be cool, open and reasonable.
  We stayed.
  
  checks out i suppose, dbzer0 does have a pretty minor registration check, but it's not super overwhelming, and it aligns with my interests so meh.
- I remember I picked Lemmy.world to create an account only because I had no idea what I was doing and it seemed like the only one which had merit at the time (I know how things work better now.) Now that I know how decentralization works I'll probably open a new account on another server when I get time.
- In my case, I went to the biggest one after leaving beehaw.
  I left beehaw because it was clear there was a double standard for one admin between minorities and the rest of us where an admin overlooked someone from a minority acting like a total ass and starting a fight.. and blamed me simply because my opinion half agreed with an article that was posted.
  Which was such a pity because they other admin there is awesome (and I loved the idea of the instance), but I'm worried it will become a echo chamber eventually unfortunately where you simply can't discuss things, but only agree with people
  
  yeah this is definitely a big concern with smaller instances, there are a couple of tricks to this general problem from what i've thought/seen of over time.
  The obvious one is a democratic vote, literally just ask people in the instance, the second obvious one is to vet people in that instance specifically and personally. And if they cause problems just yeet em. You're the dictator after all. The most common option is to have a decentralized moderation team made up from the general community, which is extremely common and generally works, though suffers from the opposite problem, ironically.
  I think if i had to moderate a lemmy instance i'd probably do a mix of heavier vetting (although most of it would likely be after they initially joined, a vibe check i suppose. As well as just being a literal direct dictator, depending on the size i might have "chaos control" mods, just to keep goofy shit from happening while i'm away, or to provide some support, who knows. And naturally, i'd focus on community votes, i'd be curious what the community instance itself had to say.
- I was a reddit Sync user and was super bummed when (large scale) API access was shut off, so I jumped on the chance to use Sync for Lemmy. It defaulted to world for signups, presumably for ease of use for migrating reddit users. Knowing that Sync already had a loyal audience that was willing to put in a little effort to migrate, it seems the dev opted to make everything as similar to the reddit UX as possible, including registration.
  Now that I'm more familiar with the fediverse, I've been considering migrating to a more specialized instance that matches my interests. Truthfully, though, it seems unlikely that much of anything would change if I did since I'm going to keep using the same app, so I've been slow to move.
  To compare this with my experience with Mastodon, I was absolutely overwhelmed by the idea of instances and really had no idea which to join, nor did I have a familiar app to work with. I figured it out eventually, but a lot of the artists I follow didn't or didn't have time to, so overall I haven't spent much time on it. I've spent way too much time on Lemmy so far.
  
  yeah that makes sense, i think the problem with migrating normie users is that there isn't quote the comprehensive explanation of things needed. A more thorough and complete overview would be required i think.
- Defederating from Hexbear probably didn't hurt. I remember when the users were literally flooding .world circlejerking about being the biggest and best instance and that any instance that defederated from them was full of transphobic Nazis.
  Edit: I have a shit memory. I don't remember what instance it was, but the circlejerking and the defederation slander definitely happened.
  
  https://lemmy.world/post/2498330
  We made the decision to preemptively defederate from Hexbear
  I remember when the users were literally flooding .world
  ok
  
  Are you from another dimension as everyone else where this happened? Because they never federated in the dimension I live in. Very interesting you're able to cross this gap, does the name Nelson Mandella mean anything to you?
  
  .world pre-emptively defederated from hexbear before hexbear ever entered federation. you are making things up wholecloth.
  
  dbzer0 had a few issues with hexbear and i believe we defederated from hexbear? I honestly cant remember, i blocked that instance a while ago.
  It was probably every instance, ML included.
Programming.dev represent! o7
Jesus Christ, that's a lot of weirdos.
Sorry mate, those figures with no meaningful captions are borderline incomprehensible. Like, what's the difference between first and second figure?
- I used 2 different metrics to rank the communities:
  at first I sorted the communities by their total subscriber counts. The two diagrams coming from this sort are easily recognizable because hexbear has a big chunk of the communities in them.
  the second one ranks them by active users per month. These are the ones where lemmy.world has >50%
  For each of the 2 ranking metrics there are 2 different chars:
  Labeled "By Community Count": just count the amount of communities out of the 100 biggest that are on a given server
  Labeled "By Community Users": sum up the amount of users (active/month or total suscribers) in all of the 100 biggest that are on a given server
Surprised to see my small instance mentioned here 😅
- Your work is recognized!
A barchart might be better as the comparison of instances with the most subscribed accounts doesn't mean much I feel
we have some users that register but are inactive and/or are infrequently active which could be a sign of lurkers or bots but empty accounts don't mean much when it comes to the health of an instance.
However; if we look at each community's active monthly and daily users it can tell another story and that data compared against Reddit's could be useful for anyone seeking alternatives
I'm rambling with little sleep but hopefully what I've said make a little bit of sense
- I added charts that use the monthy active users
Duplicate instances are a problem imho. You can see the network effect synergy working by how many communities flock to the biggest instance lemmy.world.
There also need to be tools to merge two communities on separate instances, or move them.
Two of my niche instances tried to leave reddit, but then there were two versions, one on .ml and one on .world. Confusing. Maybe there need to be reviews for communities or instances.
- I wouldn't mind so much if there were a way to see duplicate posts across instances. I guess it'd be hard to implement but as it stands unless it's specifically a crosspost you can't find other discussions of the same media
  
  Oh yeah absolutely, lemmy definitely needs better cross posting. Currently crossposts are kinda yanky with quote blocks. I'd also love to see reposts that are detected automatically.
- Piefed has topics, so different fediverse communities can be viewed through the Fediverse-topic for example
- !fedigrow@lemm.ee is a community dedicated to this.
  There also need to be tools to merge two communities on separate instances, or move them.
  The issue is not the tools, more the people. I contacted mods of !android@lemmy.world and !askandroid@lemdro.id a while ago to see if they wanted to merge, both sides wanted to stay on their own communities.
  There are plenty of other examples, usually a large LW community, but with a more active non-LW alternative. LW wants to keep their community open, and the non-LW doesn't have much power besides showing they are more active.
suprised mander.xyz is so small
- !science_memes@mander.xyz is the 9th most monthly active community
  https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month
It's very funny that despite most of you hating hexbear so much, they are still one of the biggest.
- "Truth social" has more monthly active users than all Lemmy instances combined, does it make it better?
  
  goo goo ga ga
- Turns out Blue MAGA can't suppress the left. Sad face.
My instance doesn't even make the list. 🥲
- But we probably all make it onto some list ^^
hey, I see my instance in there 🤗
- you can find some more data for your instance here too https://lemmyverse.net/instance/feddit.org
  :)
- Ich bin nicht so glücklich :(
Does anyone else just see pacman throwing up a rave?
Did you graph these with a JS library? I'd love to improve the community stats page with some more cool graphs like these.
I had a crack at it on these pages, but didn't dive into specific community info
https://lemmyverse.net/inspect
https://lemmyverse.net/inspect/versions
- I used recharts Though one rendered it with google charts and that did look a lot nicer, but if one fine tunes it, then it will probably look equally good
  
  If you're willing to post your code somewhere or send it to me somehow, I might have to find some time to integrate it on lemmyverse - also welcome to submit a PR if you have the inclination https://github.com/tgxn/lemmy-explorer
- Ohh, you're the author?? I remember stumbling into these a while back. Those are neat! Great job.
  
  Yes it is me, the author 🤗
  I have not had much time lately to work on it, one day I'd love to integrate some more cool graphics and visualizations for the network.
Somebody did dirty for shitjustworks instance and that colour
I'm just happy that Lemmy.ca made the list.
Lemmy.zip mentioned 🥳🥳🥳
- we exist!!
*instances
Wouldn't comment or user count be a slightly better metric? Oh oh, do all 3 side by side please!
EDIT: Woah this page looks totally different on desktop than mobile.
OP, you know you don't have you use a table, right? You can make a bulleted list.
- But I like my tables 🥺
  
  In a world of mobiles being more ubiquitous than monitors, consider inverting your rows and columns next time. Scrolling down is more expected than scrolling sideways.
- Please avoid any and all situations in which you might have the chance of handling any kind of categorized data, for the sake of all of us.
  
  It's worth mentioning that when I first made this comment the tables were wider than they were tall. Essentially the axes were flipped. The columns were literally one character wide to fit everything on the screen lol. If the post looked like it did not when I made the comment then I wouldn't have said it.
everyone goes to the most popular one because they think that's the one with all the things on it that's how the internet works that's what everyone's doing
- Everyone goes to Lemmy.world because unlike most instances it has (effectively) open registration and some popular Lemmy apps use it in their signup flow so new users don't have to understand the intricacies of the fediverse they can just hop straight in.
  
  And this is making a lemmy.world monopoly, which is bad for the fediverse (still better, than reddit).
  
  Everyone goes to Lemmy.world because unlike most instances it has (effectively) open registration
  The registration page does not look different really to the lemmy.nz one, same for lemm.ee, sopuli.xyz, sh.itjust.works has even one less tiny hurdle to jump to register. Didn't bother to check others. Or i am missing something here?
- Yay centralization!
  
  I'm curious what this looks like for Mastodon. Of the top X accounts listed by followers, what proportion are on instances run by the Mastodon organisation?
- As a user, I really rally don't want to start "instanse hoping" for lemmy. I just want to sign in and that's it. Fediverse decentralized nature is also it's drawback
- I went with it because I figured it had same peering defaults.
  It does, which is really nice.
awww, my instance is not even on the chart. Big sad 😿
- you're doing your part in keeping the federation healthy and decentralized o7
- Me too.
One amusing bit re: hexbear, it's been around almost as long as lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, but it seems was only added to the tracker last year, as it shows up as 12 months old, I have to imagine it's including posts/comments from before that timeframe because bozhe moi:
Even if you divide the hexbear comments by 4 they'd still be in the top 3 2 excluding the reddit repost bot. Yappers.
- It's hard to beat an operation with state funding.
  
  The what now?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4
That contrast makes it impossible to read some labels
Damn, my hexbear filter is getting a real workout!
Ayy, lemmy.zip
awful.systems is up there?
have to say i'm surprised. and a little disgusted.
- How are they awful? I've had one bad and cringy interaction with them but nothing too out of the ordinary
  
  i was more referring to the fact that as a snark community they don't necessarily represent the best of us
Very interesting, although I'd like to see how different threadiverse software like mbin fits into this.
- It uses the lemmy API, so it is plattform specific. AP has no metric for active users in the magazine yet, only instance wide. So for mbin only total subscriber count would be a metric
If i'm understanding the last graph right, it's showing the total number of active monthly users per instance's top communities, filtered by the overall top 100 communities?
So if an instance has activity spread out over many niche communities, that activity isn't represented on this graph?
I would think having a diversity of smaller communities is more in-line with the spirit of the fediverse, I'm not sure of the value in slicing the data in this way.
hi from thelemmy.club :D
- Hello!
This highlights the problems with the Fediverse pretty well. Even decentralized systems tend towards centralization.
- There's absolutely nothing wrong with a little centralization in your federation. It works well enough for email. The point is that you have the option, not that you have to use it.
  You don't have to trade one extreme for the other. In fact, I think this is the perfect example of that. Lemmy.ml is the developers' instance, and by default would likely be the largest. Except... you know. Many, many people started there before going to other instances, especially the largest competitor.
  
  The issue is that the kid that owns the ball sets the rules. LW could do something heinous, and the only choices would be to cope or lose half the Fediverse.
Is there a way to create a pie like this but on an individual basis?
- You mean the spread of the communities you are subscribed to? If so: probably yes, but not an easy one as you have to have access to the data (or more easily: the database)
💜Purple slices rise up!💜
Your data quality is questionable. You list only 2 communities for feddit.org. Lemmy Explorer has 148. I doubt that they’re all ‘suspicious’. And if they are, then that flag is itself suspicious.
- The title says "the 100 biggest Lemmy communities"
  I guess the 2 communities are !ich_iel@feddit.org and !europe@feddit.org
  
  Aww. I confused “communities” for “instances” when I read the title. Thanks for pointing it out.
Where is lemmygrad? I would have expected them to make it on the list
- Their communities aren't that active https://lemmygrad.ml/communities
- same tbh
Is that table going under the sidebar and off the page for anyone else or just me? (on web)
- On mobile I was able to scroll it horizontally.
  
  On Thunder, everything (just) fits horizontally:
  I might have preferred to scroll horizontally a bit.
You're welcome.
I thought they were blocked everywhere. What's going on? Bunch of bots or something?
Anti Commercial-AI license
- No, it’s just a big community by itself already. So while some big instances have it blocked, they have enough users to just have activity from their own instance.
  
  It isn’t big though. They just get kicked out of everywhere else they go for being disruptive assholes, so for every community there’s a hexbear duplicate

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