Nah people would get fucking pissed if you said you didn't like biden. I've seen lots of pretty standard anti-biden (not the genocide joe trolls, those deserve the hate imo) comments get blasted, and to avoid it you had to write a whole disclaimer about how you're still going to vote against trump before you could get to the criticism of biden, or even just saying you think he should drop out. And if you thought he should drop out you had better have had a replacement in mind too
Tbh, I’ve been restraining myself from calling him genocide joe, exclusively because I didn’t want to drive people away from voting. Now I can acknowledge that I suspect even W would have been more assertive about Palestinian aid than Biden was without feeling like I’m bringing on a president who would be even worse.
If you genuinely think this didn't happen, you haven't been paying attention during the last month. Like there haven't been hundreds of people doing this shit:
At this point i feels like it’s all republican trying to do a psyop telling people not to vote.
In response to a fucking meme stating a reasonable concern, which honestly is pretty telling of the mental state of some people. This is just an example I could google from memory, but this behavior has been rampant.
No matter how reasonably I phrase the argument, I haven't been able to point out that the Dems would have better chances if Biden dropped out without getting accused of supporting Trump all the way up to the day after Biden dropped out.
My more liberal friends haven’t liked Biden basically since the start. He was just the only option against Trump, whom they hate (a wonderful position our duopoly has put us all into). I will never be a fan of anyone that cheerleads for politicians though. It’s cringe to me. They work for us, not the other way around.
If Kamala actually comes out fully against the genocide in Gaza that Biden has been recklessly fueling, that will be a good sign. We need at least one Democrat to break this status quo mold bullshit.
My more liberal friends haven’t liked Biden basically since the start. He was just the only option against Trump, whom they hate (a wonderful position our duopoly has put us all into). I will never be a fan of anyone that cheerleads for politicians though. It’s cringe to me. They work for us, not the other way around.
By "hardline dems" I don't mean "more liberal" or "more leftist", I mean the "You criticized the official party line? Behold, I will immediately misrepresent what you said and paint you as an enemy". They're actually preventing their own party from becoming more effective.
Plenty of people on Lemmy immediately attacked you if you mentioned that Biden was going to tank the election or that he had mental health issues, and even though they became a little bit less aggressive after the debate, they still insisted and would call you a Trump supporter if you even suggested that the Democrats should have someone else run. Now that Biden is out of the race and Kamala is projected to have a much better chance than him, they've been proven wrong, but none of them will apologize for having denied reality.
That's like going to a restaurant that sells hot dogs and hamburgers and ordering a pizza. No, they say. We only have hamburgers and hot dogs. Which would you prefer? And you just keep saying pizza. You get frustrated and leave. You come back next week and see that they added pizza to the menu, and you want an apology because last week they refused to sell you pizza that wasn't available?
We're all happy about Biden bowing out, but last week pizza wasn't an option, it was only hamburgers and hot dogs, and talking about pizza just reduces voter motivation, which is great for Trump. (I didn't want to spoil the good names of hamburgers and hot dogs by assigning Trump's name to either)
So no, no apology, but you should feel fortunate that it worked out despite your dissent.
Jeeze, look at all the salty Bidenists giving you pissy downvotes now that their favorite big wet boy is planning for retirement.
I've been telling people that the Dems would have to drop the incumbent to win 2024 since 2016 when the DNC rigged their own primary, but no matter how I try to explain it I immediately get accused of being a Republican. I feel like Cassandra, cursed to utter true prophecies but never be believed.
I can forgive someone for being disconnected from reality, but when that someone goes and berates others for stating that a person obviously suffering from age-related issues does, in fact, does suffer from age-related issues, insists that it's impossible for anyone else to compete against Trump, and has the knife ready at their hand ready to jump at you with accussations of being a Republican for raising very reasonable concerns, that's a pretty heavy issue, and plenty of Lemmy users have done one or several of those things to the point that, frankly, discussing politics on this site has been just almost as unbearable as doing so in Reddit.
I'm not going to receive apologies and I'm not expecting them, but I'm at least going to ask you to take a long time (weeks, months) wondering from time to time if you're suffering from cognitive biases in your opinions. This is not an insult, everyone suffers from cognitive biases, I did suffer from pretty heavy ones a long time ago, but if they're provoking harm (and most specially, doing political damage), you should at the very least take a look at them.
On a side note, I have to say that I didn't expect much from Kamala other than having a reasonably better chance than Biden of preventing the US from further falling into fascism, but she has surprised me positively by confronting with Netanyahu as soon as she got a bit of spotlight.