The "Don't vote" crowd seems to have an agenda

If voting didn't work they wouldn't need to tell us not to.

Voting had never worked for me. I've always lived in places with large majorities.

yup. he's one quick shave away from methfurer, bet his password is something hitler related.

I see you're not familiar with our media

I don't know if the tweet is wrong or did NYT change the title but it's now called "Why I won't vote". I don't know what it contains because I'm not clicking on it to give that dickhead clicks.

I do Nazi what you mean.

It's surprisingly common in some circles and yes I mean Nazis and cops.

He may be but can we not equate pedophilia with a certain look? It let's a lot of bad people get away with it and throws innocent people in harms way.

My Québecois friend had the perfect expression for this freak: "He looks like he smells like sour milk."

Literal years, their game plan with getting the DNC leaked was getting progressive dems to not vote, or vote 3rd party (which is the same as not voting in the US) And the end result was... Trump.

If you just accuse everyone of course you're going to eventually be right.

God damn, I actually was trying to put my finger on why he looked familiar and you just nailed it

One of those could have been avoided if Ginsberg would have retired when she was supposed to.

Trump didn't do it all on his lonesome. He did it with senatorial approval.

The president is not a king... yet. Treating it like the only position that matters is a big part of the problem.

I was thinking a few strokes of a razor away from looking like a certain fascist.

I just got creepy pedo vibes.

I am hoping most of them are bots.

and extremely soft and boring at the same time

I think it's most likely the hair

This is the classic pincer manoeuvre of the right and mainstream media: the left wing candidate is always both too left and not left enough at the same time.

And they reinforce it with shitty opinion pieces of “all sides”. Anything to minimise left wing gains and keep the ratchet going.

Hitler 'stache is the width of the nose.

That's a Pedo 'stache

yeeeeuuup. the guy who replied with actual facts during the debate is called unfit while the idiot who spewed lies or just rambled is somehow better. just like the guy who is trying to reign in bibi is genocide but trump somehow would save Gaza.

It's so fucking stupid.

Oh no he definitionally votes. He just doesn't want you to vote.

He should shave 2/3 of it off.

[Clap For Hitler Joke]

50/50 on him entering politics or being caught for sex offenses.

Mostly because the people that don’t feel represented are overwhelmingly on the left.

You won’t find many right-wing people dissatisfied with the current choices, if they’re extremists they’d vote Trump and if they aren’t they’re probably fine with Biden. The only reason I can think of for a potential Republican voter not going is that they think Trump will win anyway and they don’t need their vote.

It matters which Supreme Court nominees get appointed, it matters who’s potentially breaking ties in the senate, and it matters who gets appointed to direct departmental policy.

The president doesn’t do everything

And either the effecting people behind the one or an all new set of criminals behind the other (because all the last ones went to jail)...thinking you are voting for a single person is such an ignorant take...

Well it does matter though.

The way I see our choices is, one old man, the blue donkey, has the goal of continuing to support the status quo, for better and worse. He also has that baffling willful ignorance about the increasingly rabid violent behavior of the other guy's colleagues and voters, and how he definitely needs to fucking do something. But at least he hires people who are less old and more mentally secure than himself, since a president's cabinet and advisors are vital to the administration's function, and tend to fill in where they fall short.

But the other old man, the red elephant, he has the very well-published goal of severely lowering the quality of life for all us citizens besides wealthy white men, in some cases removing the right for some demographics to live at all (trans people, for one). The plan also includes smash-and-grabbing the federal government and raiding its wealth; this is all that Project 2025 thing that people need to talk more frequently about. He also hires unqualified criminals for his cabinets, and is a convicted criminal himself; just not in the eyes of his dogmatic culty voters, or in the majority opinion of the unelected for-life supreme court that he had previously rigged in his favor. And he is known to be in the pocket of a sadistic oligarchic foreign government for whom the cold war never actually ended.

Sure, long term this country won't last, but in the short term, this is the last shot at renewing our fragile democracy subscription while we still can. If we lose it completely with this looming fascism takeover, it will require the spilled blood of tens of millions of lives and more, to ever get it back, and at the minimum it will come with the severe decline of quality of life for all US citizens, besides wealthy white men, and the destruction of decades of history and culture that we currently take for granted. Think a US version of China's great firewall, book burnings, server wipings, cops raiding your home and smashing up all your hard drives.

And that's only if this country could even be taken back, considering, you know, the USA has the most guns and nukes of anyone, and I don't see an average Joe who happened to already own an assault rifle being successful in employing the second amendment on a missile drone swarm. Probably the best case scenario would be Balkanization, and being lucky enough to end up in a good region of the former-US, and just getting bombed over the border back and forth occasionally, and hoping everybody continues playing nice with the nukes. Because the only alternative in an unshattered fascist US at that point would be waiting for a natural decline. But as we've seen with the likes of North Korea, that process could end up taking so long that none of us here will live to see it, just the kids of our kids and on.

I'm never voting for the crazy felon cult guy who officially wants me dead, among so many other things. I don't think that any combination of our laws or legal system should have ever allowed him to return to the polls for this election, or done anything besides end up in a cell or be executed as a high threat terrorist traitor. But it's just how it ended up. But please don't act like it doesn't matter, and nobody should be keeping up with that bullshit propaganda bot lie that the outcomes will be the same either way. Sorry for the long incoherent rant, I barely even remember what your comment was, nor do I particularly want to scroll up to read it again, but nothing makes me more irritable and verbose than people giving into hopeless apathy.

Yeah but one is trying to control women’s bodies and erase LGBT people and the other isn’t, so maybe think of your neighbors when you pull the lever in defense of those who don’t have the privilege of being able to lay low when shit goes south.

Or if you’re among the above vote in your own interests lol

Yes. Are you kidding? It's a critical role of a citizen

Yes.

If every single eligible voter in the U.S.A. would vote in the next election, Trump would lose.

Honestly, people should definitely vote, even if it is for their own downfall. That is how America works. If the majority of the population GENUINELY want us to become a christofascist theocracy, then it should become one (very much to my and many others' chagrin...).

FPTP voting systems and third parties will never coexist.

Klaxon sound Wrong!!!!

The way to fight this is by voting and participating locally. Third parties are getting elected and alternative voting methods already exist in a few locations around the U.S. you can help by voting in more systems like that and maintain the candidates and systems you like locally. If we could get more people like you to participate locally we could actually get something done.

You're problem is you want to live at the end of history and unfortunately for you we're forever in the middle of it. Local action is the most effective and relatively slow. Instead you want to enable the larger of the two fascists that will inevitably be elected and then throw up your hands when it doesn't work, blame everyone else, and never take any effective action locally.