Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'
Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today' | Common Dreams
Trump will throw Ukraine under the bus.
Lol seriously. Doesn't anyone remember why he was impeached? Come on.
Which time? (Sorry, couldn't help myself. I need the small joys. )
Which time?
Edit: oh dammit. I now see someone else already made this joke. Ok, to make it up to you, I'll tell a different joke.
So a woman in her Chicago high rise apartment was beating a rug with a broom on her balcony. Suddenly a big burst of wind blew her over the railing.
Now she's falling from the 30th floor.
A man on the 25th floor sees this, catches her, and says "Wow, it must be my lucky day! A beautiful woman falls out of the sky and into my arms! Tell me young miss, do you suck dick?"
Outraged by this she screams "NO I DON'T SUCK DICK!!!"
So he drops her.
A man on the 20th floor sees her falling, and catches her. He says: Wow, it must be my lucky day! A beautiful woman falls out of the sky and into my arms! Tell me young miss, would you be willing to fuck me?"
Insulted by the idea she screams "NO I DON'T FUCK STRANGERS!!!"
So he drops her.
As she's falling, she realizes she's going to die, and in her final moments she prays. "Please god, just let ONE more person catch me! I promise to do any revolting thing they ask!"
And on the 15th floor, a woman catches her. Before her rescuer can say a word, the woman screams "I SUCK! I FUCK! I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT!!!"
Revolted by this, the woman holding her says "Slut!"
And drops her.
His plan will be to "give Putin everything he wants"
And then he'll be like "aren't I the greatest negotiator?!?"
The Art of the Squeal
Absofuckinglutely.
Trump's plan is to end support for Ukraine.
Same plan he made in Syria and Afghanistan. Abandon US allies in the region, hand over all local assets to hostile forces and leak intel like damn spaghetti strainer.
I wouldn't be surprised if he ordered the DoD to hanf over all the intel we have about Ukraine to Russia and withdraw all other support and recon in the area.
The USA, Iran and Russia are responsible for syrian civil war. None should have got involved in it
Be as that may be, Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia that was a long time US ally in the region was not acceptable.
The start of the Syrian civil war had nothing to do with anyone except the Syrian people being pissed off at living under the most restrictive police state in the Arab world. There were protests after a mass arrest and subsequent torture of 15 teenage boys who had spay-painted some anti-government graffiti on some walls around the city.
Assad cracked down on the protests hard, which led to people saying, "fuck this shit, time for a revolution".
Iran started helping Assad, and then the US started helping the rebels. And yeah it's a shit show now. But no, it would have kicked off without outside help.
Liberals will criticize ending a pointless 20 year war and somehow still not realize that they're jingos.
Damn liberals are literally saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan because Trump withdrew. One of the few good things Trump did and that's what they want to use to take the moral high-ground.
The local "American forces" were child raping pedo warlords.
Blue MAGA will support anything that's the opposite of what Trump did.
Trump didn't withdraw from Afghanistan. Biden followed the timeline trump set (with a slight delay, maybe?) and got no end of shit for it.
Trump negotiated with the Taliban without inviting the Afghan government, and released a bunch of them from prison.
For fuck's sake, if you want to shit on liberals at least try and get your talking points right.
Blue MAGA
Further proof that you're an unserious clown.
His plan is to tell Ukraine to stop fighting and just let it happen.
If it's good enough for the woman he rapes it's good enough for Ukraine.
I’ve been digging into the whole rape thing, correct me if I’m wrong but it looks a lot like a smear campaign than anything else, that is which to say, there is zero evidence he did this and yet the mainstream media has been instructed to go hard with it lately to perhaps persuade the public to vote against him… thoughts?
Everyone knows this, but it's difficult to point out how dogshit Trump's "plan" is if he refuses to state what his actual plan is.
Did he say he had a plan? I thought he said he could end the war.
And when Putin asks Trump to accept the end of Ukraine and no longer accept the Ukrainian language as separate from Russian, he will immediately do some executive orders.
Ha ha "asks".
Just like he tells underaged girls.
I think trump's plan is Ukraine = Russia, then master Vlad will be happy.
Sell Ukraine for Russian golf resorts
His plan is to hand you over to putin on a silver platter, for free.
"Our government has a [flexible] policy not to capitulate to [the oligarch that owns my debt and may, possibly have some lewd photos] demands." - Trump quoting Patron Saint of Neoliberalism, Golden Idol of the GOP, Ronald Wilson Regan
Given their track records, maybe we shouldn't vote anyone with the name Wilson in their name to the highest office anymore......
Remember when Trump said he would get rid of the ACA and they had a plan to replace it? But he never had a plan and eventually said "who knew healthcare was so complicated?" (Everybody knew it was complicated.) This is the exact same thing.
Only things he likes more than himself are underage girls.
if trump was president in 1940 ww2 would have never happened. Also ww1 for 1914. and civil war for 1861. If trump was president before we would all live in solid gold houses and drive rocket cars with zero pollution
It's sucking putins dick and giving him the land already stolen from Ukraine
What is it with progressives and homoerotic shaming?
His plan is sucking his master Putin's cock!
He will suck Putin's dick so hard that Russia will learn to respect the US again and never dare to start another war
Oh you are one of these, bye.
I'm guessing Trump's plan to end the war is "Back Russia and help Putin crush Ukraine." Because (much like Trump's own sycophants) he doesn't realize that he'll the first under the bus when his master no longer needs him.
Trump has got to be among the biggest narcissists alive.
And he's teaching others how to be one too
Given how fat he is, that is probably true in multiple ways
True but he does have the smallest hands
The plan is stop supporting Ukraine and support Russia. You know this Zelenskyy..
The Ukraine War would end within a week without US support. It would take a Trump admin doing literally nothing for the war to end. That's his plan. To do nothing.
USA aid is very important to Ukraine, but even without it they would continue fighting. Ukraine has been without USA material aid for months already in the past, when the republican party was blocking it. And as it turned out, Ukraine sustained higher casualties and had less offensive power than with USA aid, but they were never close to folding.
Ukrainians + their supporting neighbours are very motivated to not be occupied by Russia, so they're not going to just give up if Putin's stooges come to power in the USA.
There's also the fact that a hypothetical end to US aid wouldn't end EU aid. It's definitely not on the same scale as the US due to our much smaller military sector, but that'd likely change in the event of a US shut-down of aid.
In my mind, the most likely results would be:
Short-term: Very dangerous period for Ukraine, they lose some ground, lots of men (similar to the last time they had a crippling artillery shell shortage).
Medium-term: EU military sector slowly ramps up to meet demand, as about 3/4 of central & eastern EU considers this an existential war that cannot be lost at any cost.
Long-term: After the war is over (however many more years that takes), Russia finally negotiates some kind of ceasefire where they can save some face internally and brag about how they "Denazified" Ukraine while going home and accomplishing nothing, EU is much more self-sufficient and therefore buys less from the US, and they aren't seen as a trust-worthy ally militarily anymore. Even if on paper most EU members are still in NATO, they consider the security guarantees of the EU as much more important and serious.
Occupying a country that size doesn’t take a mere week. So no, it won’t.
The plan? Ukraine surrenders unconditional and in totality.
Everyone is saying his plan is to give Ukraine to Russia, but his actual plan is to try to give all of Europe to Russia by pulling out of NATO.
I believe hes already said he would pull all US aid out and let russia have them
Like the far right in my country before the elections "We have the solution to fix the economy, vote for us" - without of course saying what they're going to do.
Unfortunately, majority of people believed them
Populism works, people like to vote for someone that says what they want to listen even if it's obvious that they're not going to do that
Generally their playbook is open, it just doesn't work. Their strategy is to let rich people do whatever they want and hoard as much wealth as they can, and that prosperity obviously will trickle down to everyone.
However when taxes are relatively higher on the rich and regulations do things like punish them for poisoning a water source, they spend their resources gaslighting the populace into thinking economy is just terrible and if your personal experience does not bear that out, well your just lucky and you'll be out on the streets in a few months unless you vote right.
Ukraine is cooked, with a divided France and a Trump presidency it's all but over.
Trump doesn't have one.
Or they will release the secret tapes of him colluding with Burisma?! I hope so
Gott3m (Karim)
This is really not that hard, its to negotiate peace with the main part being that Ukraine will never join nato. Its almost like we could have totally avoided hundreds of thousands of dead people if our foreign policy didnt suck so bad.
The entire military complex is milking the US taxpayer dollar from this war, if Trump were to stand in the way of the MIC and their income… given the presidential assassinations observed in recent history I would imagine that he would have multiple crosshairs on his forehead:.: it would take an incredible amount of patriotic duty to ignore that risk and pull funding anyway.
"It would be so patriotic to let the Ukrainians get genocided by our long-time enemy bro"
Putin has been on Tucker Carlson and remained fairly clear since the beginning that this war is not about killing Ukraine people (in a genocide as you word it)… in fact the genocide is really happening as a result of US influence, Russia has many legitimate reasons to seek unification of Ukraine with Russian interests, I don’t agree with them, but I disagree that it is a US interest to send US taxpayer money to Ukraine for weapons and arms to prolong this war.
America simply cannot afford to forever siphon money out of the coffers to Ukraine which then purchase weapons and arms which then make the weapons and arms dealers more powerful and wealthy… it’s a wholesale scam, just as we saw in the Middle East… Orwell predicted this, long drawn out pointless wars that suddenly stop when a new war is created. Today we’re told Russia bad guy, tomorrow it might be palestines Hamas, in the future we may see a forever war with China…
It doesn’t really matter at this point. America just like other allied nations should stay out of other people’s wars. Military tax money should be on a need to have basis only
Yeah the plan it's fuck Ukraine like it should be..
Why, so Biden can do it and take the credit?
I, too, love when I get to prevent an entire country from invasion by an evil force, but only when I get to take credit for it. Someone else stealing my idea for peace is just as bad as someone else stealing a joke I said first, if not worse.
Funny thing is that's how Trump thinks, but not ironically.
You're talking to someone who agreed with SCOTUS' decision allowing Trump to commit crimes, just so you know where they're coming from.
We had this conversation in 2016 about beating isis in 30 days. Turned out he lied about the plan. Besides if biden had to follow trumps plan that would mean that it was trumps plan right? It would be a better argument for trump to get into office. It would mean that biden has to do what trump says to get things done.
The truth is, Trump is lying about having a plan like in 2016. I didn't fall for it then. I won't fall for it now. If you're falling for it again, it's pathetic.
It's really telling that they care more about clout than actually doing the things that might make the world a little less shitty. Shameless fraudsters can't be bothered to do anything useful unless there's a material reward in it for them.
Trump did what he said he was going to do, Biden can't even remember what he said he was going to do. Anyone who thinks Biden should be running things in the US is just living in denial at this point
Iran Contra anyone?