Biden’s debate performance sets off alarm bells for Democrats

Biden is well past his prime, had a shitty performance last night, hate his record on Israel, but I’m still voting for him because he’s not Trump and I’d prefer that our representative democracy continued. Moving to a braindead, functionally illiterate dictatorship just seems like an all-around worse move in every respect. Not sure about his chances, but whatever, there’s not really any other alternative at this point.

The fire alarm has been going off for 5 years and they're just now noticing the fire.

Still better than Trump

You know it is pretty bad when a bunch of CNN commentators think he got smoked.

Trump would only win if the Democrat party found someone seemingly more inept than him.

I am impressed that the Democrat party managed to present not one, but two outstandingly incompetent candidates. In a row. That's some bottom of the barrel advanced scraping techniques right there. They even managed to get a representation of both sexes.

I'm sure Mr. Biden will be terribly distraught, as soon as he is able to understand what's happening around him at the moment.

How to throw an unlosable election

Welp, we’re fucked.

As bad as Biden was, CNN were worse. Fuck that shitty network for allowing Trump to lie pretty much nonstop for 90 minutes unchallenged.

Actually, the other way around. We keep on compartmentalizing, Trump can lie all he wants and nothing happens, but Joe stutters and it's a national disgrace... How can you compare one without including the only alternative?

Lol

When Jon Stewart referred to Biden's expression as resting 25th amendment face. 💀

alarm bells?

wait they didn't know he was old before this debate?

We told you back in November but no one listened.

I distinctly remember that before I left Reddit, I had some lovely discourse with someone who was absolutely inconsolable over my opinion that Biden was too old for the job. Got called ageist and everything else they could think of.

Trust me, I hate being right.

Here's the original link in lemmy.ml if you want to see lemmy.world loser ledditors coping: https://lemmy.ml/post/17384440

I'm European so obviously anti trump (I've learnt a lot about politicians that used similar rhetoric, had a different personal cult around them, also tried overthrowing the state - history repeats when not learning from it) but damn, Biden was bad. I'd still vote for Biden simply to avoid trump, but I fear he has no chance to get >50% after that performance.

The democrats hopefully see the writing on the wall and replace him before it's too late.

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I'm more worried that he won't win the election rather than he will win it. I don't think the debate changes anything about that, people are likely still going to vote who they were going to vote for. He is the not Trump vote, and it's just as important as ever if not more important to vote not Trump.

He was weak but they couldn't adjust his mic levels? That was weird.

Biden shared a stage tonight with the only man he can reasonably defeat in this election. I think I should announce my candidacy, I could run on a "my dick can get hard without pharmaceuticals" platform.

And he's still the better choice

Please replace him with Hillary or Bernie or something it would be so funny. They could even have Hillary and Bernie debate for the candidacy 😂

It wasn't a great debate, but I've had a brainfart when talking too before.

Also, the policy is what matters. What matters is also that Biden obviously was doing the right thing. Just because he doesn't scream at people doesn't mean he's not a good choice still.

Whereas Trump was clearly obviously lying constantly

So what are the chances he steps down and Camila Harris becomes prez?

This whole thing gonna take the U outta the USA

It was good knowing ya, murrica

The Democrats knew this was going to happen. There's no way they couldn't. And I don't mean Democrat supporters, many of whom were vehement that Biden was fine like so many anecdotes in this thread recount. I mean the Democrat leadership, who manage his campaign and more than likely manage his presidency. Unlike the public, they have access to him. They have his medical records, the reports of his doctors and caregivers, everything. There's no way they didn't know this would happen if he debated.

They might start seeding support for a different candidate into their supporter's discourse after this, but they will have been planning for this outcome long ago. And when a left-leaning (left from a US Overton window) news platform hosts a debate that shows him up that badly and then publishes commentary like this, you have to wonder if that caused friction with the DNC or if they assented to it.

As the party starts singling out a replacement, the question I hope people start asking is why they didn't replace Biden earlier? Did they need to wait until the urgency of imminent elections made their new candidate more palatable? And if they don't replace Biden, why are they letting Trump win?

Hey man, under Biden we defeated Medicare. Mission Accomplished.

What exactly is CNN trying to accomplish with this hit piece?

The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. If this is true, the "outcry" of concern may be a part of the plan.