8mo ago

Mozilla rolls out first AI features in Firefox Nightly, and theyre actually useful.

blog.mozilla.org Choose how you want to navigate the web with Firefox | The Mozilla Blog

As Mozilla envisions Firefox’s future, we are focused on building a browser that empowers you to choose your own path and gives you the freedom to explor

Tldr: Theyre adding an opt-in alt text generation for blind people and an opt-in ai chat sidebar where you can choose the model used (includes self-hosted ones)

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8mo ago

Mozilla roll out first AI features in Firefox Nightly

blog.mozilla.org /en/products/firefox/firefox-news/ai-services-on-firefox/

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8mo ago

Mozilla roll out first AI features in Firefox Nightly

blog.mozilla.org /en/products/firefox/firefox-news/ai-services-on-firefox/

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I like how it is opt-in.
- Self-hosted and locally run models also goes a long way. 90% of LLMs applications don't require users to surrender their devices, data, privacy and security to big corporations. But that is exactly how the space is being run right now.
  
  And yet, Mozilla went for the 10% that do violate your privacy and gives your data to the biggest corporations: Google, Microsoft, OpenAI.
  What happened to the Mozilla Manifesto?
- If it was truly opt-in, it could be an extension. They should not be bundling this with the browser, bloating it more in the process.
  AI already has ethical issues, and environmental issues, and privacy issues, and centralization issues. You technically can run your own local AI, but they hook up to the big data-hungry ones out of the box.
  Look at the Firefox subreddit. One month ago, people were criticizing the thought of adding AI to Firefox. Two months ago, same thing. Look at the Firefox community. See how many times people requested AI.
  
  If it was truly opt-in, it could be an extension. They should not be bundling this with the browser, bloating it more in the process.
  The extension API doesn't have enough access for this.
  You technically can run your own local AI, but they hook up to the big data-hungry ones out of the box.
  While it is opt-in and disabled by default, this is the real problem.
  
  Look at the Firefox subreddit. One month ago, people were criticizing the thought of adding AI to Firefox. Two months ago, same thing. Look at the Firefox community. See how many times people requested AI.
  I believe what most people are concerned about, including myself, was the AI features being enabled automatically and then having to disable it like every other application would do to inflate metrics.
  Because this is opt in like it says in the blog I am ok with it there and disabled.

Will you need your own account for the proprietary ones? Mozilla paying for these feels like it couldn't be sustainable long term, which is worrying.
- The proprietary ones are free

But what does it DO? How is it actually useful? An accessibility PDF reader is nice, but AI can do more than that
Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral
This is great, but again, what for?
- A lot of people use llms a lot, ao its useful for them, but its also nice for summarizing long articles you dont have the time to read, not as good as reading it, but better than skimming jt
  
  @Blisterexe @Xuderis It's true, as a researcher, these models have helped me a lot to speed up the process of reading and identifying specific information in scientific articles. As long as it is privacy respecting, I see this implementation with good eyes.

Theyre adding an opt-in alt text generation for blind people
No, that's not useful at all, but Mozilla refused to listen to the blind community.
- Can you elaborate? I would love to learn more about the alternative suggestions
  
  Because good alt text needs to be highly context dependant, so you can't automate it. The better alternatives we have right now are crowd-sourced alt text sites, where volunteers may generate descriptions.
- He's not blind! What's he supposed to do with such a dumb feature?? /s
- Why not?

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