The best censorship is creators' self-censorship.
The best censorship is creators' self-censorship.
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"At least our free countries don't have morality police controlling what people can wear" - "Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist... maybe they're just better dressed and better hidden... they don't have to control what you wear if they can control what you see..."
A quick and dirty meme after seeing the latest updates. Saimin? Really? But 50SOG with its dubcon (at best) is fine? Hmm.... I wonder why. u/kaigyuu2016 would probably have a field day with this.
I mean, I'm no fan of ryona/guro myself, but I don't go around telling others they can't access it (even if they might need a bit of Touhou Jesus after that).
Then again, I guess when you have money and monopolistic/duopolistic power in a market/industry, you'll try to reshape what society can see according to what you think is right... just like Steam.
I wrote some time ago that "this isn't stopping at looks = age, but going beyond that. It's anyone's guess where it'll stop."
If they don't stop at saimin... what's next, timestop?
u/Jaggedmallard26 nailed it pretty well... "You can launder money from drug cartels so they can buy heavy weaponry with a bank but god forbid you use their service to see a titty."
My condolences to our German weebs, though.
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Can someone explain what this is about in a way that I can understand ? I know nothing about this situation, in fact I don’t even know much about animé in general which this seems to be about.
Payment processors are controlled by puritanical conservatives and have been for decades. It's not (just) about anime, sex workers have been pushed to worse and worse places because of these evil companies.
Reading the sources you'll see they pushed to ban sexual depictions of minors and rape on one website, and changing the names of such tags on the other two.
How puritanical banning child porn.
This doesn't deserve sympathy and isnt comparable to not providing payment services to sex workers.
Basically the major credit card companies are forcing their puritism and morality onto others. They are forcing these services that host nsfw content to remove or hide it or they won't be allowed to use the credit card services. That's where the big debate of censorship comes in. Where its okay to see violence but god forbid you see a boob.
Some things others didn't mention:
- FOSTA and SESTA, they're laws designed to remove the "good Samaritarian" clauses from many service providers when it comes to sex related stuff. It is very vaguely written, so likely it is the thing that made Visa and Mastercard overpolice things, not the anti-proshippers.
- I have read that the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (formerly Morality in Media) uses bad faith arguments to get a de-facto ban on porn. One of these efforts included the aforementioned FOSTA and SESTA. The other seems to be there being a pressure campain to get Visa and Mastercard drop porn altoghether, thus the only real option for paying for it being in either cash or crypto.
A lot of these organizations try to first make more reasonable sounding arguments before they push for less and less reasonable ones. In the UK, they banned not just the "just drawings", but also forms of "extreme" pornography, as it could normalize "dangerous sexual acts". I have a feeling that it has the very same people behind both of them.
These other guys have given a good gist of the issue, but IMO it's inaccurate. The problem lies with society and capitalism at the end of the day. Basically, credit processors are in it for the money, obviously. And they view porn as a risk to profits, because puritanical society means that statistically a lot of sex related purchases lead to charge backs when someone finds out and the purchaser denies having any knowledge of it. So as a result the credit processors don't allow their services to be used for sex stuff.
This is not to say that the credit processors AREN'T led by puritans with an agenda. Just that their profit motive probably has more to do with it.