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Now do me, I agree with them.
Make sure you go back to at least September though
You seem to be confused.
What part of “not voting for a genocide supporter” are you having trouble understanding?
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I don't see how you're having trouble understanding that anti-genocide rhetoric can also come from the left. I would actually wager that the majority of genuine critiques surrounding the Biden administration's support of genocide would not be from Republicans, since most of those fascists love the idea of killing natives in the name of forming a white ethnostate.
I doubt there are many Trump supporters who want to eliminate the existence of trans/minorities while also saying "FREE PALESTINE" on random lemmy posts lmfao.
I guess you could take the position that they're not genuine critiques, that every critique of Biden is a false flag Trump supporter or direct KGB agent from Russia, because who in their right mind would actually give a fuck about a genocide happening to others. They're not American, so fuck them right?
If that last paragraph resonates with you, then I'd ask you to consider who in this conversation is actually the close-minded bigot. If it doesn't, then you have to recognize that there are genuine, valid critiques of Biden coming from the left, and it's hard to stomach the idea of going out and openly supporting a president in favor of furthering Israel's genocidal campaign.
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I think the majority of Trump supporters can barely get on the internet successfully, let alone infiltrate Lemmy so deeply that 99% of the anti-genocidal rhetoric are false flags. You need some actual data to back this claim, and I don't know if you've ever talked to a Republican, but they're not exactly known for their ability to empathize with other positions, they have serious trouble explaining what a socialist position even is, they genuinely don't understand it.
If someone online is coherent in their explanation of a leftist position, they're probably a leftist.
Who benefits from all the lefties dropping out
Potentially Palestine. I've explained this countless times to you moderate libs, and I have no idea how you can't figure this out on your own, it's not complicated.
If it's abundantly clear to Biden and Democrats in 2024 that they lost due to their genocide support, and they want to win in 2028, guess what they might do? Stop supporting genocide.
What worked in 2020? Anti-Trump rhetoric. What are they trying in 2024? Anti-Trump rhetoric. It's valid rhetoric, but it also allows them to keep positions they want (e.g funding pro-U.S ethnostates), and ignore positions the vast majority of leftists want (free Palestine).
If anti-Trump rhetoric fails in 2024 because supporting genocide is too big of a problem, guess what might happen in 2028 that would otherwise not happen? They could stop supporting genocide to get the votes back and return to power.
Literally so unbelievably simple, yet so many people like you don't reason it out on your own. I don't know if it's purposeful ignorance or genuine stupidity.
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More genocide? This is the most killing we've had in the region since the formation of Israel, INCLUDING the four years where Trump was already president.
You're just making shit up now to support your own position. It's pathetic.
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It will be more no matter who is president, mark my words.
If Biden wins in 2024, you'll rejoice, and the killing will ramp up as it already has been under his presidency. It will get worse and worse until Israel succeeds in eradicating what they call "human animals".
If Trump wins the same thing will happen.
The only difference is in 2028, as I previously outlined, and as you so easily ignored because you have a gross inability to see more than 4 years into the future. That's a general problem with humanity, the ability to think about long term consequences, and you're a perfect instantiation of that problem.
It's really uncomfortable how many blue magas have been coming out of the woodwork to tell me how excited they are for us (women, minorities, foreigners) to get what's coming when Trump wins because we didn't vote Biden.
Like don't they understand how that makes them look? Baffling, really.
It's been wild to learn as a socialist how many liberals are more than happy to ignore genocide so long as their side wins in an election between a fiscal conservative (Biden) and a pseudo-fascist (Trump).
The Biden administration and the party as a whole have been steadfast in their support of Israel's genocidal campaign, despite their constituents' firm disapproval of it. The only way to get them to change is to speak their language (remove them from power and make it clear it's due to genocide support).
Yet so many of you refuse to consider it because this is more like a sports game that you want to win everytime, rather than actually investigating the material results of the election.
There are too damn many leftists saying Assad is a good person
Ooooh, do me too? I also agree with Linkerbaan.
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Who is the current president right now, Donald Trump?
Is Donald Trump going to stop Joe Biden being complicit in Genocide?
And what you're saying is not even true I have plenty criticized Republicans.
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Yes people that can see that Biden is the one complicit in Genocide.
It's like DNC voters have turned into the 2016 MAGA cult, purely voting for Biden no matter what he does.
Biden is supposed to not be the Fascist Genocide guy.
That guy is probably a bot
I got a bunch of these tagged as Russian Shills. They love it when i point that out 🥰
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From an establishment, pro-corporate view, I can see how populist rhetoric on both sides sounds similar. Scratch beyond the surface, and it becomes plain to see why right wing populists are given carte-blanche, and leftists are given the silent treatment.
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It's like liberals have turned into 2016 Trump supporters willing to vote for their God Emperor no matter what he does.
According to my calculations, Joe Manchin is President and consistently tells Biden what he’s allowed to do