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I'm pro-NATO and against all dictators and autocrats. We are not the same.
Can NATO ever get rid of its own dictators and autocrats? Dunno but it wouldn't be as bad if it could
That would be amazing and I hope it'll happen. Unfortunately this will probably take years.
There is no process for this.
Turkey was soooo close, now I’ve lost all hope for them
I don’t think Hungary will get rid of that fucker anytime soon either
Call it democracy, but in reality it's just lobbyism.
Especially in Germany and in the US.
Germany and the US are very different.
There is no prosses of kicking a country our if that's what you're thinking. The only part of the treaties that allow a member to leave is if they leave and give a years notice. But it's not possible at this time for a vote on kicking a country out.
Yeah it was a rhetorical question
No different from a tankie then. They also have excuses for their preferred governments' atrocities. If you think "dictators and autocrats" are the only evil that exist in the world, I have some bad news for you.
Yeah, the suckage of, say, Germany or the Netherlands being less nice to refugees and farm animals is exactly the same as Russia and China actively committing genocide right now.
Yeah let's conveniently forget about the agent orange and the toppling of governments to install dictators
I'm not. The both sucked in the past. But let me repeat:
Russia is committing genocide. Right now. China is committing genocide. Right now.
My country is a military dictatorship right now at least in part because the US supported the overthrow of the democratically elected leader.
And just to be clear, I'm not comparing who is "worse". I understand that a genocide kind of takes the cake there if you really want to have a pissing contest about it. But the OP above you said that they were "pro-NATO", which in my book means they're a shit person.
I'm not a shit person, but thanks. Without NATO Europe would have been a huge mess
Yeah that was uncalled for my bad, and I do understand what you mean about Europe. But while the US is helping Europe, it's actively fucking the rest of us over, with European countries' help. So that's great for you, but being pro-NATO can only be seen as extremely selfish at best.
It's ok. Just to add: I wish the whole world would live in peace, and I wish organisations like NATO wouldn't be nessesary.