How do you deal with the anti-tankie 'left'?
How do you deal with the anti-tankie 'left'?
The kind that thinks communism is the same as nazism and thinks communism is when the government does things.
I hate liberal brain worms.
They seriously do as much damage to the left as fascists by punching to the left and spreading capitalist anti-left propaganda. They overall weaken leftism and help fascism.
We need more left unity, folks. Fash ain't gonna bash themselves. 
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it’s usage is always a signal that its user is either a delusional liberal or an online sectarian not remotely interested in real world politics
That's just what you want to believe.
The proof is in the fact plenty of ML groups successfully organize alongside street level anarchist groups all over the US, which isn’t exactly a country kind to socialists of any kind
You don't have to stop being hostile to MLism to work with MLs. If there are common short term goals, it's most often pragmatic to, especially in countries where there isn't an active leftist threat at all like the US. That does not mean the anarchists are just perfectly fine being buddies with the MLs, nor that when the collaboration is over they won't criticise and call them out again.
Using terms like tankie is a clear cut signal that person is terminally online and as a result couldn’t define anarchism to save their lives
Once again, that's just what you believe. That's nothing but a preconception. You're telling yourself that so you can give yourself a free pass to blindly disregard anyone who says a word, and not have to listen to what they have to say. I've actually organized in real life both with pluralist orgs and with directly anti-marxist groups, full of people who despise all of you. Whether the real life anarchists I've done shit with say "authoritarian" "statist" or "tankie" or just "ML" has no bearing on their understanding of philosophy. Some are very new and don't get things yet, some have been anarchists for longer than I have been alive, and have actually gone to jail for their anarchism.
You can disagree with and even condemn the actions of anti-marxist anarchist organizations just fine, but to try to say that they somehow aren't "the TRUE ones" is just delusion.
That's just what you want to believe.
Again, for the second time, it's not about what I believe, anarchism has its own history with its own principles and theoretical foundation embedded in either a historically utopian or marxian conception of capitalism, even if the tactics and politics of rhetoric differ from capital M-Marxism, so if a so-called anarchist advances politics that preserves capitalism, they are not by any definition "anarchist" and that does in fact describe 99% of the people who use an online slur like "tankie"
So do you want to keep going in circles or do you just want to admit you have no idea what anarchism is
I've actually organized in real life both with pluralist orgs and with directly anti-marxist groups
lmao sure you have liberal
anarchism has its own history with its own principles and theoretical foundation embedded in either a historically utopian or marxian conception of capitalism
This is what I'm talking about. You don't get to say what "trve anarchism" is because you don't actually know it. Anarchism has nothing to do with Marxism, not even ancoms. They're entirely separate philosophies that view the world in different ways, both use material analysis and both stand against capitalism, but that does not mean they share a common goal, or have common ancestry. Have you actually read any anarchist theory? Or just On Authority and Anarchism or Socialism?
if a so-called anarchist advances politics that preserves capitalism
This once again proves you have no idea what you're talking about. Anti-marxist anarchists are treated as actual terrorists by the state and capitalism. They're among the most militant anti-capitalist groups on earth. The italian FAI bombs prisons while the italian ML party writes about needing critical support for ISIS in a 1998 looking ass website. Not to bring up the FARJ and the anarchists in Iran literally risking their lives as we speak. But you, from the comfort of your chair, disregard them to delude yourself into thinking what makes you comfortable.
But sure, carry on after talking to me, thinking you stand for left unity, and don't worry your pretty little head about all of these groups and people that have done more against capitalism than you or I ever have. They're not real, I assure you. They are surely just LARPing. You and the people you agree with are the one true and only based socialism bringers.
They're entirely separate philosophies that view the world in different ways, both use material analysis and both stand against capitalism, but that does not mean they share a common goal, or have common ancestry
So not only do you have no clue about the history of anarchism and how it developed, but you clearly don't know a thing about Marxism or socialism, or frankly I'm starting to suspect any -ism, you do realize you actually have to read history to be politically literate instead of working off nonsensical intuition based vibe politics
Lets see how swallow your understanding really is, provide a simple definition of marxism and socialism
This once again proves you have no idea what you're talking about. Anti-marxist anarchists are treated as actual terrorists by the state and capitalism. They're among the most militant anti-capitalist groups on earth
Yeah no, anti-marxist groups have accomplished nothing but to solidify the control capitalist institutions have where ever they supplant a unified socialist movement, if your idea of "anarchism" is martyrdom and broken adventurism, then thanks for proving my point and revealing how swallow your understanding of history and radical politics is
Not to bring up the FARJ and the anarchists in Iran literally risking their lives as we speak. But you, from the comfort of your chair, disregard them to delude yourself into thinking what makes you comfortable.
So now you're asserting anarchists in Iran of all places are railing against the "taNkiEs" on the regular, lmao you dumbass
I have nothing to prove to you, and it's clear you aren't listening and just repeating all the memorized talking points ingrained inside. Believe whatever you want.
it's clear you aren't listening and just repeating all the memorized talking points ingrained inside
as long as you insist on lifting your politics from memes and online posts, you're always gonna remain confusedIntuition is nothing without knowledge and theory to structure it