say what you want about President Camacho, he earnestly tried to solve problems as he saw them
say what you want about President Camacho, he earnestly tried to solve problems as he saw them
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No kidding. Camacho saw the problems and wanted to solve them.
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Say what you will about Trump's implementations, but solving illegal immigration has been acknowledged as an important goal on both sides of the aisle for decades.
He hasn't shied from the challenge, and for better or worse he's certainly not lacking in earnestness.
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Nope. He did shy from the challenge. "Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" is not a serious attempt to deal with a structural socioeconomic issue.
That isn't earnestness it's lazy thinking. Might as well just pour Brawndo on it.
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Just allow everyone in so it's not illegal anymore. Problem solved.
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American citizenship is not a universal Human Right. At least that's what most Americans believe.
As long as the country purports to be democratic, their views ought to be respected, however fringe they may seem by some standards.
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Historically, it was open borders - as long as you had the correct skin color.
Ellis Island didn’t send anyone away - unless they had like TB or something.
In the 50’s - many Mexican Americans who were legally citizens were deported in “Operation Wetback.” Based on skin color/appearance - which matches with the reports of what ICE is doing now harassing Native Americans.
It’s never been about following rules, it’s always been about being the right kind of person
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Views that include believing people who are different from you aren't people at all should never be respected, for any reason, ever.
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borders are dehumanizing
Could you expand on this?
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It's impossible for me to expand on thoughts that came from your head and not mine, so since I didn't say that you'll have to try again.
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How do you equate the view that
Some people are American citizens and some people are not. American citizens decide who becomes an American citizen. People who "break into" America without permission will be removed from America.
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American citizens believe that non-American citizens are not people
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I've yet to encounter someone who is against illegal immigration that isn't also majorly racist.
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But on what basis do people support illegal immigration?
Sure, the average Mexican citizen would probably live a better life as an American citizen, but so too would the average American citizen live a far better life as a Swiss or Monegasque citizen. Do all Americans have the right to move to Switzerland and enjoy the privileges of citizenship?
Should NGOs be flying Americans to Monaco and putting them up in the Hotel de Paris? Where does it end?
Far better to bloom where you're planted, in my humble opinion.
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On the basis that it shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Borders don't need to exist. Borders should not exist. People should be free to come and go and work and play anywhere they want, anywhere on the planet.
Far better to bloom where you're planted, in my humble opinion.
Easy to think that when you come from a place that has a pretty high quality of living. I seriously doubt you'd have that opinion if you were from some place like Somalia or even Mexico.
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