Joe Rogan, ‘Hawk Tuah’ and the rise of conservative-leaning online spaces in 2024
Joe Rogan, ‘Hawk Tuah’ and the rise of conservative-leaning online spaces in 2024
“All of these things are in service of kind of the same project, which is emboldening traditional masculinity,” one expert said.
Summary
In 2024, conservative-leaning online spaces emphasizing traditional masculinity gained mainstream influence, driven by figures like Joe Rogan and trends like the “tradwife” movement.
Platforms like X, under Elon Musk’s ownership, became hubs for anti-“woke” sentiment, while podcasting further amplified right-wing ideas.
This cultural shift mirrored Trump’s election victory and reflected backlash against progressive gender norms.
Though some view these spaces as promoting traditional values, critics warn of growing misogyny and radicalization in the “manosphere.”
The rise of such spaces highlights deepening political polarization online.
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The fact that I have no idea what "Hawk Tuah" is means I'm doing something right.
Being unaware of popular culture isn't a badge of honor. There's nothing wrong with not knowing what Hawk Tuah is but don't pat yourself on the back for it lol
I disagree. Fucking skibidi toilet living rent free in my head.
I just find the different humor of each generation really interesting. I also love using "Ohio" as a pejorative descriptor.
Last night I said that Pennsylvania is like a slightly less Ohio Ohio and it amused people.
Being unaware of popular culture isn't a badge of honor.
It can be, but Hawk Tuah isn't popular culture. They are part of a political culture and they shouldn't be proud of being ignorant about.
Not knowing about Skibidi is fine, as it's a senseless new fad that doesn't set out to change public policy and/or views. Not knowing about Hawk Tuah isn't on the same level as being ignorant of it can be a very bad thing due to its attempts at subverting public policy and views.
Nice bait
Sorry if reality triggers
Please, tell me more about my values.
No. I'm telling you you're reading the situation wrong if you think not knowing what Hawk Tuah is means you're "doing something right"
Being aware of a cultural phenomenon, however fleeting it is, does not mean you're doing something wrong. So maybe step down off that high horse.
But it does mean I’m doing something right, as not knowing about things like this is exactly what I aim for. Not knowing what “Hawk Tuah” is means I’ve successfully excluded the kinds of things from my media diet that I intended to avoid. I’m not making any universal moral judgments here - these are my values. You’re free to value different things, but don’t waste your time telling me I’m valuing the wrong ones.
What you're saying is you'd think less of yourself if someone in the circles you run in exposed you to a simple piece of information?
"Hawk Tuah" is how a girl described spitting on a dick in a stupid viral video. She used her 15 minutes of fame to promote a crypto scam.
Now you know...tragic.
That's why I'm saying it's stupid to be proud of not knowing. You're exposed to pop culture at random.
What you’re saying is you’d think less of yourself if someone in the circles you run in exposed you to a simple piece of information?
That's not even remotely what I'm saying.
Did you not say you place value on not knowing? Now that you know, you must have less value than before...
I place value at curating my online media diet in a way that certain topics I'm not interested in are exluded from it. I don't value what ever is trending on twitter at this very moment so I don't pay any attention to it. I don't just simply feed on what ever the social media algorithms are serving me but instead I try and be intentional about it. I can't know what I don't know. It's only when something like "Hawk Tuah" shows up on my Lemmy feed that I get concrete evidence that I, in-fact, have succesfully managed to avoid it.
And I'm sorry to inform you but I still have no clue what it is nor do I care.
How do you know it's something you'd want to avoid if you have no idea what it is? If you know it's something to avoid, then wouldn't you have to know what it is?
Take this at its most extreme.
So, for instance, I have to watch scat porn to avoid it? I don’t have permission from you to say I want to avoid watching people eating shit until I’ve personally watched people eating shit regardless of my preference?
You understand how stupid you sound?
What does having my permission have to do with anything? I'm assuming many people who haven't watched scat porn knows what it is. The person I replied to claims to have no idea what hawk tuah is. You should try to do better understanding the context of the previous discussion before you feel the need to say anyone else sounds stupid
You are pretending that without a state sponsored education about someone… no one is allowed to police them?
Why are you gate keeping?
I have no idea what you're talking about, did you reply to the wrong post?
Not sure, why is everyone disagreeing with you?
What does my context have to do with anything? You should try to do better understanding the “context of previous discussions…”
You should get a clue before posting this shit…
It's not this specific thing I try to avoid. It's this category of things. The vast vajority of it I'm not interested in so if I lose few gems with it then that's a price I'm willing to know. By definition it cannot bother me when I don't even know what I'm missing.
I feel they respect the fact you keep these things out of your life, but as an outside voice, your original comment read similar to the classic “I don’t have a tv in my house.” I’m glad you clarified!
It is though. There's a finite amount of things you can know in life. Knowing anything else will be more useful.
This and the comment I replied to remind me of thinking I was so cool as a teenager for not listening to popular music.
In other words, both comments wear fedoras
This comment is a ruler on the back of the hand
No, it's the guy telling the preacher on the street corner that his "REPENT NOW" sign is really corny
More than a little bit dramatic, I would say. I would translate their intent to "anyone else like not knowing about this shit?"
That seems like a you problem, bud.
Knowing nonsense vs knowing useful info, I'll pick useful any day of the week. But, you do you.
You might not hear it (because it's not useful info!) but everyone in the world is clapping and cheering for you :)
A new level of cool has finally been achieved!
Tai Lopez in training over here.
Exactly. There's a limited amount of things I can pay attention over the week. The fact that I don't know about some completely trivial cultural thing means I've paid attention to something else instead. That something else may very well be equally trivial but it also might not.
You say you agree but then you kind of admit it's a bullshit premise...
That something else may very well be equally trivial but it also might not.
Therefore there is no shame in knowing something trivial and no pride in not knowing that specific trivial thing.