I hope people in the west understands the gravity of things .
I hope people in the west understands the gravity of things .
People in the west should stop this madness ...hek whom am I kidding ,they won't .
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Do you think we could avoid that if Russia just went home?
Yes... but that isn't going to happen. We live in reality.
So then you agree with my original statement, what are we even debating?
Nothing, since that was my first comment. I just like pointing out to people that Russia just up and leaving... isn't a thing. Probably the only thing that works now is negotiations.
Just giving them what they want isn't a thing either.
What about what the people in the Donbas want? What about what all the civilians caught up in this want? You don't give a fuck about them though this is a game to you.
More whatabouts are not going to change what I said.
So you don't give a fuck about anyone's self determination you just blindly follow bourgeois nationalism, got it.
whatabouts
Thought-terminating cliche
That's not what "whataboutism" refers to, it was just the same two words.
Ok. I think there's a word for that... starts with n? ends with ions?
I'd like to negotiate the transfer of your home to me for free, or I start shooting.
The people of crimea and the donbas don't want to be ruled by Kiev. Why do you want to force an unwanted gov on them?
Ok, but if you do that I'll also start shooting, so how about I pay a smaller sum (than my home is worth), so you don't? Cuz I don't want to go to war with you. In return you sign a non-aggression treaty.
In that context, someone that says "shoot me, then" is a moron, whether the mugger is justified or not