NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine
NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine
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Even the US' intelligence apparatus is a bunch of Putin shills now
But seriously, no shit lmao. Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?
They literally think the Russian brainpan is incapable of comprehending democracy due to them assimilating Mongolo-Asiatic authoritarianism genes in the time they were under Mongol rule so probably, yeah.
I heard literal this take ex cathedra in university in Poland. 30 years ago.
Damn. I haven't heard this one in uni but I had a professor who was casually peddling Spengler and some other sus figures.
Missed all the fun being out for the evening. I just want to inform you that I am not even exaggerating for comedic purposes that much, here is a random video found by typing "mongol influence on russian culture" on google and clicking the video tab. It features bangers such as "It has been several hundred years in their genetic inheritance that authoritarianism is the only solution".
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You people are delusional
go on, how are we delusional
Lol, this guy's entire post history is just him popping into random Hexbear threads to tell us how stupid he thinks we are and then refusing to engage anyone because he thinks we're too stupid for it to be worth his time. A very serious intellectual.
Have you read the comments in here? Lmao where do you guys come up with this nonsense?
be specific
if you're referring to the specific thing about Asians (and Russians in particular) having some inherent desire for authoritarian figures, I have personally seen this idea in the book Everything Flows by Vasily Grossman.
Oh, man, I hate Vasily Grossman. Life and Fate is on my shortlist for most overhyped book ever.
I actually kinda liked Everything Flows, the first half at least. The second half descends very quickly into incoherent anti-Russian/Soviet rants but the vignette about the Old Bolshevik being sent to the labor camp was very moving.
That one is a lot shorter so maybe I'll give it a shot when I'm in a forgiving mood or want to add to my unwritten essay about how annoying it is that only "dissident" literature gets translated.
Replying to a comment is not specific enough an example for you? Do you think I'm referring to a random comment in a different post or something?
Okay, so what about the comment do you take issue with? Do you not believe it is a widely-disseminated idea in the west that Russians & Asians are inherently predisposed toward authoritarianism?
Lol
"why won't people argue with me" the redditors say as they fail to engage with basic arguments
if you're referring to the specific thing about Asians (and Russians in particular) having some inherent desire for authoritarian figures, I have personally seen this idea in the book Everything Flows by Vasily Grossman.
Is this a good enough reply? Why not engage with that part of their comment?
Like you’ve never heard a harebrained pundit draw a line through the tsars, the evil Soviets, and Putin to conclude “these people simply can not know our enlightened values”
Could you be more specific? Our asiatic brainpans don't handle vague, nonspecific insults well.
Don't be stupid.
Don't be vague.
Air your specific objections so we can respond to them or get ready to get pig-poop-balled.
Are you intentionally acting dumb?
Have you read the comments on
?It got so bad the mods banned using 'Orcs' as the term to refer to Russians with in the early days of the war. And many redditors cried about that.
We can argue the semantics of what exact type of dehumanizing language was used, but the overarching point remains.
Why in the world would I poison my eyes by going to that sub? Or even reddit at all.
Then what's your complaint here, exactly? People are shitposting and being somewhat hyperbolic, but a lot of liberals have considered Russians subhuman morons since at least the beginning of this war
Oh "it was a joke, bro" is used when being called out as ridiculous here? Ok then.
No one thinks anyone is subhuman, except you guys saying it about anyone you don't like.
What does Stormfront have to do with anything?
What are you on about?
People here are commenting that many liberals thought Russia was going to invade Europe, and that libs have considered Russians 'orcs' and generally stupid subhumans, that is where reddit comes in as it serves as a decent aggregate of liberal opinion.
No one thinks anyone is subhuman, except you guys saying it about anyone you don't like.
Reddit literally banned the term 'Orc' in early 2022 because Ukraine used it to refer to Russians and Redditors eagerly adopted it; you can also see how they've tried to subvert it in there and who knows how many other threads. Like this one.
It got used so much it literally has a 'slang' page on wikipedia.
Russia invading Europe was literally the position of much of NATO at the start, and they continue to just toss out ideas about it.
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No one thinks anyone is subhuman
Would you say Florence Gaub's statements suggest she sees Russians as less human?
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"brainpan" is a clear marker of making jokes about phrenology and race science ideology. Obviously no one is seriously explaining behavior in terms of brainpans in the modern day, but the argument goes that there is very little substantial difference between that and modern styles of "othering" used by modern definitely-not-fascists.
i think you're subhuman, here's why
Why would you need to go to reddit when you could just browse your own post history
Why would you show up here just to talk shit?
Because they know they can't get hit. These "Ban me! Ban me!" Libs are all the same. Pathetic losers who want to start fights, but too wimpy to finish them.
Because that's what all of your comments are.
at least attempt a specific criticism instead of just being vaguely contrarian it's annoying
Start with comment I replied to, Einstein.
Is that a good enough example for you, Di Vinci?
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oink oink snort snort
Start by replying to the people who have already given you ample sources, Shapiro
wow thank you, you've totally changed my outlook on life
please give us your answer for who you think is responsible for the NordStream 2 bombing so we can laugh at it
Why would you think I care about that?
laughing brings joy into the world
What do you think of (random event you could care less about)?
Lmao very telling about your understanding of world events if you're going to call that something you couldn't care less about
I don't see why anyone is even bothering engaging this person with good faith. They're just "trolling" the same way people did back decades ago. Adding "lol" or "lmao" on to everything to pretend they're not upset, not reading anything, calling everyone stupid no matter what is said, always saying "I'm sitting here laughing at you" to again pretend they're not upset. They all ended up being incels and I wouldn't be surprised if this is no different
Look at that username, 100% chance this person is either an incel, or an edgy teenager who will become an incel.
Hello I'm a fellow
good germanliberal and I don't want to be infected with commie nonsense, can you point out the nonsense please so I can avoid it?
just ban these delusional trashlib already, after countless attempts at engagement all this idiot has ever done is smugly laugh and pretend he's smarter than everyone else.
I particularly love the fact that libs simultaneously believe that Russia is on a brink of collapse and about to roll over Europe as soon as it's done with Ukraine. They see no contradiction there.
The enemy is both very strong and very weak at the same time.
Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?
Yes. You should see the bullshit the European media keeps shoveling.
I barely even read any Polish media since 2022, they went into high gear of being unbearable and keeps at it ever since.
Brought to you by the party of PiS!
It's completely identical under PO. Russophobia is universal in Polish public spaces.
The Poles, PiSsing and POoing, smdh my damn head.
Being elevated by the USSR and the People's Republic really made their fascists mald didn't it?
Yes, we got propelled to modernity by socialism and they will never forgive it for that.
Well I'm malding over 1989 and the round table... Jesus I'll fucking never forgive them for what they've done to NFZ and well, the entire country...
NFZ is shit by design, a more responsible version of catastrophic Kasy Chorych which only puprose was to crash and privatize healthcare. We should just return to direct budget financing. Same with retirement funds. May the buzek govt rot in hell, the 4 reforms were almost as catastrophic as the transformation itself.
Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?
They did unironically think that, yes.
Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe
they definitely do here in europe
in February of 2022 Biden said that he was trying to reestablish the Soviet Union.
He has also said that he is proud to have been the first black woman to serve with a black president.
In general, I would not associate Biden with the word 'intelligence'.
And yeah, no, if Putin was trying to reestablish the USSR, he would be much better than he is. An anti-colonial power that massively improves its people's lives? Sign me up.
same, i would've moved to Russia if that were the case
I wasn't referring to his commentary on intelligence, I was referring to his commentary on "the libs"
Considering that Biden is a lib, your reply, at best, supports the comment that you were replying to.
Furthermore, you seem to think that this point about Biden somehow contradicts the fact that 'NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine'
I didn't comment on the post to refute it, I replied to a comment to refute the comment. that's how threads work. anyway
comment: "Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?"
me: this lib certainly said he thought so.
that's how conversations work.
He also said he'd seen photographic proof that Hamas had decapitated 40 babies.
He also said he would cure cancer, I am not joking.
go on
No u
this lib certainly said he thought so.
Most of us are pretty skeptical he actually did think so, especially considering a lot of experts in his circle have said things that contradict it. Case in point: the article being discussed.
I didn't comment on the post to refute it, I replied to a comment to refute the comment
And all you did is support - not refute - the comment. Just as I said here:
Considering that Biden is a lib, your reply, at best, supports the comment that you were replying to
comment: "Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?"
me: this lib certainly said he thought so.Case in point.
jesus kid. I'm out. good god
Haha. It's nice that you recognise how much you embarrassed yourself.
He also managed to mumble this out during the debate a week ago, too. However, we can't be sure Biden even knows what year it is, so it's unclear if he still believes this hilarious lie or if he thinks it's 2022.
Its one of the excuses they use to keep sending weaponry
Ögedei didn't even tried to take Europe, it was a really big scout party which casually obliterated every army they encountered, arrived at Hungary, seen the pushta and considered staying because it reminded them of home and then went back because khan died and new one had to be elected. In the meantime collective Europe was thrown into a state of abject terror not known since Attila the Hun. But of course as soon as it passed, islamophobia kicked in, they started to blabber about Prester John and tried to use Mongols against muslims.
baltic mindset, i'm waiting if that lady will outbang the gardener
